Being over the legal legal limit.

gent9662

I was just reading this article in the paper and it got me wondering. If somebody is four times over the legal alcohol limit does this mean that they had roughly 5 pints before they decided to drive? What does it equate to?

http://www.donegaldemocrat.ie/donegalnews/34One-of-the-worst-cases.6054870.jp

genericguy

dclane wrote: »

I was just reading this article in the paper and it got me wondering. If somebody is four times over the legal alcohol limit does this mean that they had roughly 5 pints before they decided to drive? What does it equate to?

http://www.donegaldemocrat.ie/donegalnews/34One-of-the-worst-cases.6054870.jp

irrespective of legal alcohol limits, donegal's roads are more dangerous than beirut's.

I_am_Jebus

dclane wrote: »

I was just reading this article in the paper and it got me wondering. If somebody is four times over the legal alcohol limit does this mean that they had roughly 5 pints before they decided to drive? What does it equate to?

http://www.donegaldemocrat.ie/donegalnews/34One-of-the-worst-cases.6054870.jp

Is being over the "legal legal" limit different to being over just the legal limit.

I am confused about this two tier legal limit system that has been set up. Can you provide more detail? :cool::P

AnonoBoy

dclane wrote: »

I was just reading this article in the paper and it got me wondering. If somebody is four times over the legal alcohol limit does this mean that they had roughly 5 pints before they decided to drive? What does it equate to?

http://www.donegaldemocrat.ie/donegalnews/34One-of-the-worst-cases.6054870.jp

Depends on body weight doesn't it?

Four times the legal limit though I'd guess is somewhere between 8 and 10 pints for a man.

RoadKillTs

Fair play to the judge! Fecking foreigners coming over here drink driving!

MaybeLogic

I'll hazard a guess and say one bottle of fermented swan juice.

ejmaztec

genericguy wrote: »

irrespective of legal alcohol limits, donegal's roads are more dangerous than beirut's.

That's why they get tanked up before they get in their cars, so's they can alleviate the stress of driving in such a dangerous place.

Dravokivich

ejmaztec wrote: »

That's why they get tanked up before they get in their cars, so's they can alleviate the stress of driving in such a dangerous place.

How about just being there?

For drink driving Michalkiawicz was sentenced to four months in jail and disqualified from driving for 15 years. He was also sentenced to four consequetive months in prison and disqualifed from driving for the same period of time for driving with no insurance

IF the guy was disqulaified from driving in the first place... which i'd assume meant he no longer had a lisence to drive in this country... how in the heck was he meant to get insurance?

- Drav!

Bazzy

Yes We've pot holes as big as craters over here you'd have to be locked sure

Victor

dclane wrote: »

I was just reading this article in the paper and it got me wondering. If somebody is four times over the legal alcohol limit does this mean that they had roughly 5 pints before they decided to drive? What does it equate to?

Nearly 4x80mg/100ml ~= 300mg/100ml

The scale is essentially exponential. Thats enough to kill some people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_alcohol_content

Unless a person has developed a high tolerance for alcohol, a BAC rating of 0.20% represents very serious intoxication, and 0.35%–0.40% represents potentially fatal alcohol poisoning.[1] 0.40% is the accepted LD50, the dose that is lethal for 50% of adult humans.

For drink driving Michalkiawicz was sentenced to four months in jail and disqualified from driving for 15 years. He was also sentenced to four consequetive months in prison and disqualifed from driving for the same period of time for driving with no insurance

http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=consequetive&word2=consecutive+

m@cc@

dclane wrote: »

I was just reading this article in the paper and it got me wondering. If somebody is four times over the legal alcohol limit does this mean that they had roughly 5 pints before they decided to drive? What does it equate to?

http://www.donegaldemocrat.ie/donegalnews/34One-of-the-worst-cases.6054870.jp

I'd assume it means legal limit x 5.

recylingbin

Bloody foreigners. Coming over here driving our drink.

oppenheimer1

dclane wrote: »

I was just reading this article in the paper and it got me wondering. If somebody is four times over the legal alcohol limit does this mean that they had roughly 5 pints before they decided to drive? What does it equate to?

http://www.donegaldemocrat.ie/donegalnews/34One-of-the-worst-cases.6054870.jp

Two pints will put you just over the limit. This individual had at least ten pints over the course of a few hours, then decided to drive

With a blood alcohol level of 320mg/dL he was almost at the fatal dosage. He would have been suffering from Stage 1 anaesthesia, memory lapse and labile mood.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

I thought they lowered the legal limit and there is a zero tolerance to driving with any alcohol in your system. My understanding is that you can have about a glass of beer or one short measure of spirits?

Anyone know the proper legal limit? Anyway, best practice is to never drink and drive. Not even a pint.

recylingbin

Stats show that you're more likely to die drink walking than drink driving.
Won't someone think of the children?

IrishManSaipan

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

Two pints will put you just over the limit. This individual had at least ten pints over the course of a few hours, then decided to drive

With a blood alcohol level of 400mg/dL he was almost at the fatal dosage

Ive an acquaintance who likes his swalloy. Hes in his early 20s. He was done for drink for drink driving last summer. He was declared three times over the legal limit, yet he claims he had at least 8 pints and a heap of shorts on top of that. Ive been out with him before, so Id be inclined to believe him.

They left him in the cells for an hour, then let him go after processing the charge sheet. They gave him back the car keys along with the rest of his belongings.:eek:

Victor

recylingbin wrote: »

Stats show that you're more likely to die drink walking than drink driving.

I've not seen those stats, but yes, quite a few pedestrians are killed in situations involving alcohol and other drugs, whether as a driver, passenger, pedestrian or through violence or poisoning.

recylingbin

Victor wrote: »

I've not seen those stats, but yes, quite a few pedestrians are killed in situations involving alcohol and other drugs, whether as a driver, passenger, pedestrian or through violence or poisoning.

Stats were quoted in freakonomics.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

recylingbin wrote: »

Stats show that you're more likely to die drink walking than drink driving.
Won't someone think of the children?

That's not the type of mentality we need though.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

IrishManSaipan wrote: »

Ive an acquaintance who likes his swalloy. Hes in his early 20s. He was done for drink for drink driving last summer. He was declared three times over the legal limit, yet he claims he had at least 8 pints and a heap of shorts on top of that. Ive been out with him before, so Id be inclined to believe him.

They left him in the cells for an hour, then let him go after processing the charge sheet. They gave him back the car keys along with the rest of his belongings.:eek:

And how is Mr Halvey these days...? Long time no hear!

epgc3fyqirnbsx

I heard that 2 out of 10 accidents are caused by drink drivers

That proves that you're 8 times more likely to have a crash if you haven't had a drink so be safe guys, drink up

argosy2006

what would likely outcome of this be, over de limit and hitting two cars,,
what would that guy expect to get?

recylingbin

argosy2006 wrote: »

what would likely outcome of this be, over de limit and hitting two cars,,
what would that guy expect to get?

a job driving Niall Quinn?

m@cc@

recylingbin wrote: »

Stats show that you're more likely to die drink walking than drink driving.
Won't someone think of the children?

Yes, but you won't injure or kill anyone else drink walking.

recylingbin

m@cc@ wrote: »

Yes, but you won't injure or kill anyone else drink walking.

you will if you walk out in front of a bus, the bus driver swerves to avoid you, bus hits a wall, fuel goes everywhere, you throw your cigarette away, bus goes up in a fireball.

m@cc@

recylingbin wrote: »

you will if you walk out in front of a bus, the bus driver swerves to avoid you, bus hits a wall, fuel goes everywhere, you throw your cigarette away, bus goes up in a fireball.

You don't have to be drunk to do that.

jimmycrackcorm

"It's different , Up here in Donegal"

- I blame Bord Failté.

Overheal

In conclusion, Drunk Driver: 15 years. Murderers and Rapists, 2 year average?

But then there was that 7 month suspended sentence vehicle manslaughter, while drunk.

Is the justice system run by an Enchanted 8-Ball?

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Overheal wrote: »

In conclusion, Drunk Driver: 15 years. Murderers and Rapists, 2 year average?

But then there was that 7 month suspended sentence vehicle manslaughter, while drunk.

Is the justice system run by an Enchanted 8-Ball?

It's not "run" so much as it's made up as they go along.

It's a well known fact that our justice system is a load of balls.

Then again, we did have a huge problem with drink driving and not such a problem with murder/rape.

25 years for carrying some weed? Your own system is more fcuked up imo.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Overheal wrote: »

In conclusion, Drunk Driver: 15 years. Murderers and Rapists, 2 year average?

But then there was that 7 month suspended sentence vehicle manslaughter, while drunk.

Is the justice system run by an Enchanted 8-Ball?

When did a drunk driver get fifteen years? Was that in the States?

Seaneh

I got knocked down two years ago by a lad 4 times over the legal limit and all the cu*t got was a 5 year driving ban and a fine, he hit 3 people and got a slap on the wrist!

Fair play to the judge, about time the law was enforced properly.

biko

dclane wrote: »

I was just reading this article in the paper and it got me wondering. If somebody is four times over the legal alcohol limit does this mean that they had roughly 5 pints before they decided to drive? What does it equate to?

You can use this calculator http://www.ou.edu/oupd/bac.htm to find out. It's a Canadian but works here too if you know their measuring system.

In short, that Polish guy probably fell over walking to his car, that's how drunk he was.

Irish_polizei

Overheal wrote: »

In conclusion, Drunk Driver: 15 years. Murderers and Rapists, 2 year average?

So your suggesting that people go out an murder the odd person instead of murderin a pint :rolleyes: ....:P
Whats this world coming too ...

<-Joke->

Overheal

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

When did a drunk driver get fifteen years? Was that in the States?

Did you read the article in the OP?

Overheal

Kyra Lemon Popcorn wrote: »

25 years for carrying some weed? Your own system is more fcuked up imo.

Marijuana Inc. - MSNBC Special. I'd wager you can watch it free on Google Videos or something.

cian1500ww

A little OT but how would one know if they were over the limit the morning after ?

Overheal

cian1500ww wrote: »

A little OT but how would one know if they were over the limit the morning after ?

Home Breathalyzer? The Stench on your breath? The Hangover?

Im sure whatever he did to catch the cops attention was a clear indication of how sober he was though. I typically would shut off the engine when I couldn't hold the vehicle in a straight line.

IrishManSaipan

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

And how is Mr Halvey these days...? Long time no hear!

Sorry?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Overheal wrote: »

In conclusion, Drunk Driver: 15 years. Murderers and Rapists, 2 year average?

But then there was that 7 month suspended sentence vehicle manslaughter, while drunk.

Is the justice system run by an Enchanted 8-Ball?

Overheal wrote: »

Did you read the article in the OP?

In fairness, your first post leads me to believe that you were talking about 15 years in jail, unless muderers and rapists now get driving bans?

IrishManSaipan wrote: »

Sorry?

Eddie Halvey. Former rugby player who killed a 16yo while drink and driving, got a suspended sentence and seven year ban from driving. Kind of knocks things out of perspective.

Capt'n Midnight

he was already on a 10 year drinking ban, banned in July caught in December

does anyone have any re-offender rates for people on driving bans ?

Overheal

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

In fairness, your first post leads me to believe that you were talking about 15 years in jail, unless muderers and rapists now get driving bans?

Snap. My bad. I misread the article

Eddie Halvey. Former rugby player who killed a 16yo while drink and driving, got a suspended sentence and seven year ban from driving. Kind of knocks things out of perspective.

GrrrRrrRrrRrr.....

donkey balls

cian1500ww wrote: »

A little OT but how would one know if they were over the limit the morning after ?

i use ths system and add an extra hr myself. start drinking at 2100 finish at 0100 1 pint= 2 units first unit does not leave the body untill 2200hrs and after that 1 unit per hour so by 10am the next morning the alcohol should be gone out of my system.