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pto covers

  • 09-02-2010 11:23am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,087 vanderbadger


    lads anyone know if these can be got online or where is a good place to buy them or are they impossible to fit, are they cheap /dear, have a few old machines that could do with new covers


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,199 ✭✭✭ Bitten & Hisses


    Motor Factors or your local co-op sould do this for you. I'm not sure of the cost, but I wouldn't expect it to be massive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭ reilig


    Is it the full pto shaft covers that you are looking for?

    If it is, then you'll be in for a surprise. They're expensive buggers in any local co-op or agri shop. You culd end up paying anything from €30 to €50 - depending on the length that you're looking for. In some instances, they come to almost half the price of a new shaft.

    The safety industry is big bucks!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,087 vanderbadger


    ya i had a feeling they might be..
    the main one i was thinking of is the baler, the baler end is fine but the tractor end is gone, outside of the obvious danger the the ramaining half cover keeps banging of the shaft itself and makes quiet a racket, can you buy just one end, i see spaldings have some type of one called a total cover but as you say its dear and totally different to original cover


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,199 ✭✭✭ Bitten & Hisses


    I've the shaft from the baler in for the same job at present. The tubing was flopping and banging around the place and apart from the usual problems of noise and risk of injury, it would damage the cable from the control unit if I left it as it was. I've no idea what it's going to cost, BTW.


  • Registered Users Posts: 51 ✭✭ fred432


    WWW.direct2farm.com into accessories and then PTO. They are dear enough for a piece of moulded plastic! I haven't dealt with them. I went to a local lad selling machinery and made up one from scrapped machinery but I have to get a few more. Does anyone know is there a way of working out what size you need. I was hoping that maybe I could have one good one for a few machines as they are so expensive. They fit fine when lift is down, up and in between but is there anything else to watch out for that might cause wear or damage? Is there a certain diameter needed for certain size machines? Theres a crowd genfitt.ie who have a nice catalogue!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,280 ✭✭✭ snowman707


    ya i had a feeling they might be..
    the main one i was thinking of is the baler, the baler end is fine but the tractor end is gone, outside of the obvious danger the the ramaining half cover keeps banging of the shaft itself and makes quiet a racket, can you buy just one end, i see spaldings have some type of one called a total cover but as you say its dear and totally different to original cover

    spaldings one is the way to go will last for years and very safe can be moved between different machines


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,087 vanderbadger


    fred432 wrote: »
    WWW.direct2farm.com into accessories and then PTO. They are dear enough for a piece of moulded plastic! I haven't dealt with them. I went to a local lad selling machinery and made up one from scrapped machinery but I have to get a few more. Does anyone know is there a way of working out what size you need. I was hoping that maybe I could have one good one for a few machines as they are so expensive. They fit fine when lift is down, up and in between but is there anything else to watch out for that might cause wear or damage? Is there a certain diameter needed for certain size machines? Theres a crowd genfitt.ie who have a nice catalogue!!

    not a bad site
    thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 760 bk1991


    not a bad site
    thanks


    way easy to fit just a coller and a screw


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,254 ✭✭✭ razor8


    anyone know any good online shops for these?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,024 Mod ✭✭✭✭ blue5000


    Try bare-co, not cheap either. Have one on the vac tank, they give you extra collars, ends can be slid back for greasing.

    https://www.ecpratt.ie/shop/safety-equipment/bare-co-pto-shaft-cover-small/

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,661 ✭✭✭ lakill Farm


    blue5000 wrote: »
    Try bare-co, not cheap either. Have one on the vac tank, they give you extra collars, ends can be slid back for greasing.

    https://www.ecpratt.ie/shop/safety-equipment/bare-co-pto-shaft-cover-small/

    €65 for the cover, you can probably buy the full shaft new for €100.

    Lad in Laois selling wide angle shafts suitable for slurry tankers for €270 incl vat


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭ freedominacup


    €65 for the cover, you can probably buy the full shaft new for €100.

    Lad in Laois selling wide angle shafts suitable for slurry tankers for €270 incl vat

    The shafts work well but some of the covers on those wide angle shafts seem not for for purpose. Contractor who spreads here usually has everything to a tee with panels and guards but both tankers had very little cover left when he came in this spring.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,024 Mod ✭✭✭✭ blue5000


    €65 for the cover, you can probably buy the full shaft new for €100.

    Lad in Laois selling wide angle shafts suitable for slurry tankers for €270 incl vat

    That's just the small one! All the safety related stuff should be VAT free IMO.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,661 ✭✭✭ lakill Farm


    blue5000 wrote: »
    That's just the small one! All the safety related stuff should be VAT free IMO.

    well at minimum be allowed a vat rebate on vat58 or some similar scheme.

    same for chainsaw equipment like trousers , gloves etc, PPE .

    but look I was building here last year and block layers using the consaw with no goggles or muffs. carpenters no better.

    I sent home a carpenter one Saturday morning with the smell of drink and him up roofing. not on my watch .


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,165 ✭✭✭ emaherx


    Covers can be a bit expensive ...... but has any one a price for a new arm?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,348 ✭✭✭ Waffletraktor


    The shafts work well but some of the covers on those wide angle shafts seem not for for purpose. Contractor who spreads here usually has everything to a tee with panels and guards but both tankers had very little cover left when he came in this spring.

    It's more how they're set up as standard the come with grease nipples in all the wrong places and takes time for lads to do them right. Changeing pieces so nipples to the edge of a cross or 2, putting 90 degree nipples with a few designer holes on cv joints helps as wide angle stuff is too heavy to take off constantly and not drop/ damage them. Also the easier it is the less likely someone is to decide not to do it little and often and grease the nylon collars.
    Walterscheid would a recomendationn for lots of use machines, bare-co is a bit flimsy imo as the locking tabs wear out over time and can come loose.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,058 ✭✭✭ cute geoge


    How come grease nipples dont be fitted to end of the cross u.j. that is in the yoke this would make it alot easier to grease then where the nipple is in the centre of the cross u.j.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,785 ✭✭✭ dzer2


    Goy new mower last week must take a pic of the pto shaft noticed that the grease nipples are way easier to get to.


  • Registered Users Posts: 419 ✭✭ pms7


    blue5000 wrote: »
    Try bare-co, not cheap either. Have one on the vac tank, they give you extra collars, ends can be slid back for greasing.

    https://www.ecpratt.ie/shop/safety-equipment/bare-co-pto-shaft-cover-small/

    Yep, the BareCo is good, easy to slide back for greasing


  • Registered Users Posts: 419 ✭✭ pms7


    cute geoge wrote: »
    How come grease nipples dont be fitted to end of the cross u.j. that is in the yoke this would make it alot easier to grease then where the nipple is in the centre of the cross u.j.
    They are like this in pto that came with new agitator here, super job!!
    They are so hard to reach normally through hole in cover, that when cover falls off, you are glad to see the back of it and in no hurry replacing it..


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭ Muckit


    emaherx wrote: »
    Covers can be a bit expensive ...... but has any one a price for a new arm?

    Arm? They're the lucky ones. Many of them are funeral jobs


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭ Muckit


    Also the easier it is the less likely someone is to decide not to do it little and often and grease the nylon collars.
    Walterscheid would a recomendationn for lots of use machines....

    Trying to release some pto covers to grease is as tricky as trying to take the wrapper off a chuppa chup. Both nearly reduce me to tears


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,797 ✭✭✭ Sami23


    Where's the best place to buy PTO covers online these days.
    Tia


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 2,269 Mod ✭✭✭✭ K.G.


    Bord bia during the week and while everything had a pto cover the truth was they were only for show as some didn't have bearings .so today I went through them but I short a good few bearing and there seems to be differences between them.is there any site that specialises in bearing and can size and shape(manufacturer) them.maybe if I posted pic s some can identify them



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,165 ✭✭✭ emaherx


    Bare co covers come with a selection of bearings so universal fit. Well they come in 2 sizes for heavy or light duty shafts.





  • Registered Users Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭ zetecescort


    local machinery dealer maybe. one here keeps alot of damaged covers from trade ins etc. for spares and would have a fair selection of bearings for most types of covers



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,403 ✭✭✭ funkey_monkey


    I see you can now get a flip up PTO guard. Good idea - most of the broken guards we've had were due to the arms lifting high and crushing the cone.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 2,269 Mod ✭✭✭✭ K.G.


    have the covers just lacking a few bearings.yeah we take them over to local parts shop and see what they can do.



  • Registered Users Posts: 430 ✭✭ gazahayes


    The plastic bearings are common enough and should be easily got just to know what make shaft and what size.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,631 ✭✭✭ 9935452


    Id be a fan of the bare co covers.

    Handy to pull back for greasing . Designed for it. Find them fairly durable.

    We damaged the long drive shaft cover on a trailed kuhn mower. The cover wasnt a standard size.

    Off the kuhn dealer 500 incl vat.

    Spurious was 300.

    We got a bareco for 80 ish. Small bit of modification and on she went . 8 or 9 years later , still perfect.



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