full driving license holder on L plates on motorway ?

lud

Hi,
I was wondering if I can take my car with L plates to motorway if I hold full driving license? I received my full license only now and I'd like to keep my L plates on as my fiance is learning to drive.

Reloc8

Actually I believe that's not an offence (I think the ROTR say you must take them down though) - but I really wouldn't worry about it (and I'm generally conservative/cautious about telling people that where an offence is concerned).

You have a full license and are good to go, that's what anyone will be worried about, and you have a perfectly reasonably explanation for the L Plates. If that's all that's wrong with your car and yourself on a stop, you will not be prosecuted for it.

hobochris

I don't see why not.

The law is no learner drivers on the motorway not cars with L plates.

If the garda do pull you over(unlikely), once they see the pink license they'll just send you on your way, no harm done.

eoinor

Or you can get magnetic L plates, very handy!

Tar.Aldarion

Should be grand ya

lud

Thanks for all the replies. I thought I might be ok driving like this but needed some more opinions. I heard that magnetic plates fall off so I'll just keep my old plates on.

Tar.Aldarion

lud wrote: »

Thanks for all the replies. I thought I might be ok driving like this but needed some more opinions. I heard that magnetic plates fall off so I'll just keep my old plates on.

Whatever the ones are that stick to glass and you can take on and off easily are great.

Meh, no need to buy new ones

Jumpy

In Australia it is 2 points per plate for leaving it on when not a learner.
I suspect it is not legal here either, but it may not carry points.
AGS wouldnt not be happy as they would waste time stopping you, if it isnt an offense, it should be.

ScouseMouse

Should be ok. I got pulled for overtaking a cop van one day on the N4. He didnt like it and stopped me. Made a big deal about me being on L plates until I pointed out it was the wife learning to drive.

You would need a really mean guard to even care.

ADI34722

No there is no offence for driving on a motorway with L plates displayed if you are a full licence holder. If you are stopped on the motorway by the gardai they will ask you for your full licence. Please ensure that you carry your full licence in your car with you at all times. While you cannot get penalty points for not having it with you there is a possiblity you will get fined for not doing so.

ardmacha

The fact that they did not prohibit non learners from displaying L plates when revising L regulations says a lot about the present regime.

ADI34722

ardmacha wrote: »

The fact that they did not prohibit non learners from displaying L plates when revising L regulations says a lot about the present regime.

Well it wouldnt be feasible for alot of people to keep taking them up and down. For instance alot of driving instructors use unbranded cars with only the L plates on there windscreen and rear window. Also there 5 euro for a pair and taking them off and back on could damage them costing more money. As for the legallity of the issue its alot simplier for the gardai to ask for a licence at a checkpoint.

ardmacha

Well it wouldnt be feasible for alot of people to keep taking them up and down.

Nonsense. It is perfectly feasible, it is not beyond human ingenuity to devise an L plate that can be easily removed. Garda detection of unaccompanied permit holders would be made easier if people were required to take them down and people might give more respect to learners if they really knew which cars were driven by learners.

ADI34722

ardmacha wrote: »

Nonsense. It is perfectly feasible, it is not beyond human ingenuity to devise an L plate that can be easily removed. Garda detection of unaccompanied permit holders would be made easier if people were required to take them down and people might give more respect to learners if they really knew which cars were driven by learners.

Point taken and i have seen some that work on a slot system. Clear packet you can put the plates in when teaching and it seems like a good idea and it works. Once again tho you are leaving to the people to manage it themselves.

I think its simplier the way it is.

Richie15

The confusion here comes from the sign at motorway entries, which says "No L-Drivers". You wouldn't believe the amount of people who used to tell me when I was learning, "take off your L-Plates and go on the M50." :rolleyes: That sign's a summary of the law just to remind you, not a legal interpretation of it.

And of course I never did drive on it, I swear... Except that one time I got lost and turned on accidentally, which happened to be the one time I've seen a checkpoint on it, by pure coincidence, I swear! And the one day I didn't have my qualified driver with me... How unfortunate, that coincidence (I swear it was!)

Del2005

ardmacha wrote: »

Nonsense. It is perfectly feasible, it is not beyond human ingenuity to devise an L plate that can be easily removed. Garda detection of unaccompanied permit holders would be made easier if people were required to take them down and people might give more respect to learners if they really knew which cars were driven by learners.

I found that people generally have little respect for learners and seeing a big red L makes people drive like muppets to get past/pull out in front etc.

But it's law for learners to display them and it's not against the law for full licence holders to display them. Saying that I'd take them down when driving on a full licence to hopefully make people a little less aggressive around me.

Wishbone Ash

ardmacha wrote: »

.... and people might give more respect to learners if they really knew which cars were driven by learners.

Shouldn't 'people' have respect for all other drivers regardless of whether they hold a driving licence or a learner permit?

Richie15

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

Shouldn't 'people' have respect for all other drivers regardless of whether they hold a driving licence or a learner permit?

They should, but it'd be a bit naive to assume they do.

Mcloke

ardmacha wrote: »

Nonsense. It is perfectly feasible, it is not beyond human ingenuity to devise an L plate that can be easily removed.

They already exist...they are window clings and they do stay up as long as you rub your hand over them when you put them up. Why anyone buys the sticky kind these days I do not know

NukaCola

lud wrote: »

Hi,
I was wondering if I can take my car with L plates to motorway if I hold full driving license? I received my full license only now and I'd like to keep my L plates on as my fiance is learning to drive.

Yes you can....

ADI34722

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

Shouldn't 'people' have respect for all other drivers regardless of whether they hold a driving licence or a learner permit?

Everyone should have respect for all road users. Doesnt matter if there L or ADI or HGV or anything. If you like to use your right foot too much or tailgate or shout and roar at people soon enough you will experaince just what its like to crash.

Im sorry but i've been driving 15 years now and the things i've seen people do is crazy. I had a fella drive into the back of me in an unmarked school car at a stop sign before. Just L plates and no signs (It was 2 days old) and the abuse he roared at me for stopping at a stop sign was crazy. Shouting "Blood L drivers always F***ing on there own.

When the Gardi arrived he contuined on to shout at me and the Garda about it until i told the Garda i was an RSA ADI. His face was priceless BTW.

People just need to relax.

Sorry rant over.

greenie

Del2005 wrote: »

I found that people generally have little respect for learners and seeing a big red L makes people drive like muppets to get past/pull out in front etc.

Spot on Del! Actually you're doing good if you get a little respect ( learners I mean). In my opinion a lot of people actually disregard leaners...It's like there's a whole other set of rules when there's an L plated car in front! People seem to feel the need to overtake, fly past or honk without hesitation. Without that L plate this generally wouldn't happen. It'll never change either.

greenie

ADI34722 wrote: »

When the Gardi arrived he contuined on to shout at me and the Garda about it until i told the Garda i was an RSA ADI. His face was priceless BTW.

People just need to relax.

Sorry rant over.

:DI would LOVE to have seen his face!!