My whole class is screwed for Irish

LpPepper

So heres the story , For 1st and 2nd year we had this old hag of a teacher for Honours irish . All we done most days was stare at sheets of paper and "learn" . Any questions we asked would be replied with "just learn what i told you earlier " etc....

So my whole class protested about our dreadful Irish teacher and we got our english teacher as our irish teacher for 3rd year.Our Irish teacher , funnily enough , had our old irish teacher for the JC too and hates her .

My whole class is screwed as basically we know very little vocab , verbs and find it hard to make any sort of sentence up at all . It took me 3 days to learn ONE poem SA .

Im just wondering what sort of stuff would help me and my mates kinda progress in irish and help us even have a conversation like we can have in french ,

Thanks

Blue_Seas

I myself don't think I'll do well in Irish but I've bought the ReviseWise Irish book and it has quite a lot of useful phrases in it! I'd recommend getting that as without a good teacher there's no other way you can really learn much, in my opinion.

partyatmygaff

If you study anything, study grammar. Follow that up with some lists of vocab for the topics you're most likely to be asked about i.e. Ceolchoirm e.t.c.

Prós and Poetry and grammar notes

http://www.mccgaeilge.com/Junior%20Cert%20-%20Proper.htm

I'm doing my Leaving Cert and that site is excellent for Irish notes.


A word of advice, don't neglect your irish in the Junior Cert or you will suffer when you do your Leaving Cert especially at honours level.

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partyatmygaff wrote: »

If you study anything, study grammar. Follow that up with some lists of vocab for the topics you're most likely to be asked about i.e. Ceolchoirm e.t.c.

Prós and Poetry and grammar notes

http://www.mccgaeilge.com/Junior%20Cert%20-%20Proper.htm

I'm doing my Leaving Cert and that site is excellent for Irish notes.


A word of advice, don't neglect your irish in the Junior Cert or you will suffer when you do your Leaving Cert especially at honours level.

Thanks so much for that site!

qwerty2

I'm gonna have to disagree with Partyatmygaff on what to study!! If anything, I'd be learning Nathanna Cainte i.e. phrases such as bhi me ar mhuin na muice, bhi an aid plodaithe le daoine etc! That's all I really did and ended up with an A miraculously! With regards to grammar the only time you will really be penalised for it will be with your sceal/aiste! What I did for mine last year, was learn one story. It was on an accident which happens while on a school trip and looking through past papers I knew I'd be able to change it around for any year! PM me if you want notes on anything!

spurious

I had a great Irish teacher and one of the best things she ever taught us was that for essays, if you can't say it, don't say it.

You could sit in an exam for ten minutes trying to remember how to say 'they discussed their plans', when you could easily have used 'they talked about what they would do'.

Say it simply. This applies in other languages too. Sure, you may lose style marks, but your grammar and vocab will be correct, because you will keep it simple.

LoganRice

There's really nothing else you can do but to go to grinds, revise or drop down to pass if you feel you're struggling. Also, don't expect any sudden improvements, it'll take time to succeed in Irish ^^
G'luck

tiernanmul_gos

i had irisd today and it was impossible

youlooksilly

ifound the best way is to learn a timpiste+stoirm+gadai and you should be sorted for paper1
as for paper 2 learn 2 poems and learn grammar + a letter opening and ending. after that you should have enough words learnt to do well in comprehension. i did it

ChemicalCobra

SAME!!

I was always quite good at Irish in junior school. Probably one of the best in my class. In first year I had a bitch of a teacher but she wasn't too bad and I was at about an A/B standard. So I decided to take higher level Irish in second year when we were split up.

At first we had a teacher who was okay but about 2 months into second year, she mysteriously 'disapeared' and the school 'lost contact with her' or some crap like that. She was replaced by an extremely annoying student who was not a teacher, just someone who could speak Irish (just about). We learned nothing all year, just practised a couple of conversations, which were taken off the course this year anyway!!

So, started third year and got another new teacher. Let me just say he's 'not the best Irish teacher' to put it lightly -_- I have learned NOTHING since 1st year and my whole class probably failed the mock. Haven't recieved the results yet, will post them when I do.

How do other people find Irish is taught in their school? How did people do in their Irish mocks?
(Ok sorry for long post )

CookieMonster.x

I got an A in the mocks.
What you need to do is really learn off essays for the short story and pros and filiocht. My teacher handed us out ones for Dioltas an Mhada Rua, An Gadai and An tAdh and we learned them off. In the mock I knew it off so well I got full marks in it. For the poetry we did the same. For unseen poetry, learn off a few phrases you can use when answering the questions. I'll post some in the Notes thread when I have my notes home. For essays, learn off some phrases that you can add in. Learn your verbs especially! If you can, find an old Irish book (old Fonn 3 is brilliant) and learn a few essays. Like I said, I'll post up some if anyone wants. A revision book may be of some help too, revise wise are really good.

ChemicalCobra

CookieMonster.x wrote: »

I got an A in the mocks.
What you need to do is really learn off essays for the short story and pros and filiocht. My teacher handed us out ones for Dioltas an Mhada Rua, An Gadai and An tAdh and we learned them off. In the mock I knew it off so well I got full marks in it. For the poetry we did the same. For unseen poetry, learn off a few phrases you can use when answering the questions. I'll post some in the Notes thread when I have my notes home. For essays, learn off some phrases that you can add in. Learn your verbs especially! If you can, find an old Irish book (old Fonn 3 is brilliant) and learn a few essays. Like I said, I'll post up some if anyone wants. A revision book may be of some help too, revise wise are really good.

Cool advice and btw congrats with ur A! Thts a great result! :pac:

gaeilgegrinds1

Any help I can give? Upsets me to hear a teacher like this still getting away with doing so little.