Roof Extras or part of the job?

country home

I had a quote done on the roof of the house, and we agreed on the price,

Now he has come back and said one thing that wasn’t included was purlines. . . .

As unknowledgeable as I am about roofing, I would have thought purlines were almost like slates and felt. . . .

(I assume these are the cross pieces which run across the roof trusses. . . .)

Am I entitled to be mad and suspect that this is just another extra. .?

i.e. im meeting him this evening to talk about it. . . . He says it wasn’t included in the plans. . .. . .an my thinking is , neither was slates/nails/felt/


hmmmm

soldsold

Either he is trying to pull a fast one, or he understood that you were going to use steel RSJ's to support the roof?

Best to get an email detailing what is to be done I'd say, so you can refer to it later if there is an issue. I'm in the same boat with external insulation quotes now, making sure the details of reveals, esb box, foundation insulation and gutters etc are all written on an email.

If the roofer has a good reputation as being honest and fair it might be a genuine misunderstanding.

Stuxnet

purlins don't have to be steal rsj's they can be 9x3 or 6x3 timber, it depends.
purlins if needed should of been dictated on the drawing, if they weren't, there maybe be no need, all depends on span and rafter length's etc, but as a carpenter myself, i have received plans before without them, and they would be needed, best double check with your engineer or architect, you mightn't need them,
op you mention trusses in your post, is the roof a "truss roof" or a "cut roof", ie made and cut on site from timber lengths, if trusses there should absolutely no need of a purlin in a standard roof

(I assume these are the cross pieces which run across the roof trusses. . . .)

no they are just the latts

sinnerboy

country home wrote: »

I had a quote done on the roof of the house, and we agreed on the price,

Now he has come back and said one thing that wasn’t included was purlines. . . .

As unknowledgeable as I am about roofing, I would have thought purlines were almost like slates and felt. . . .

(I assume these are the cross pieces which run across the roof trusses. . . .)

Am I entitled to be mad and suspect that this is just another extra. .?

i.e. im meeting him this evening to talk about it. . . . He says it wasn’t included in the plans. . .. . .an my thinking is , neither was slates/nails/felt/


hmmmm

" The roof " within the industry splits into 2 distinct parts .
1. The structure - joists and rafters - and purlins
2. The weathering parts - felt battens , tiles , flashings . Unless clearly stated - this will exclude gutters and rainwater pipes .

When asking for a price on anything the documentation is fundamental . Drawings alone are never enough - you need to list items out in writing too .

What kind of "plans" do you have ? you ought to have a engineers layout specifying all of the structural roof elements ( Part 1 above ) - to firstly ensure "it stands up" and secondly to base a price upon .

If you have this information and the guy did not include it - sounds like a try on . If not he may be simply asking " do you need purlins - the drawing does not say"

mickdw

If he has not started, wellhe is just clarifying the issue - no harm in that.
If he has come back with the roof half done looking for extra for purlins, well thats not on.

Ive seen roofing jobs priced & carried out in numerous ways. From having full specification & detailed construction drawings to literally having the engineer meet the roofer on site prior to ordering the materials, going through the structure required and the roofer going ahead from there. This is not the way to go tbh and leaves you open to all sorts of problems.

country home

house is dormor, velux windows, and concrete walls up stairs. .

house is H shaped. .

its a Cut Roof. .

he will be starting in the next few days. .

also, they are not on the drawings. . . .I feel though hes the type that the "quality workmanship is important and he feels better if they were in, , , ill be talking tonight with him

cork2

as some body already stated they may not be nesecessary depending on the length of the run on the rafter, the sizing of the rafters and various other things. the fact that he hasnt started yet means theres really no big deal just yet. check with the engineer that desinged the roof and if they are needed get a size on them <SNIP>.then get a price form the roofer for supply and fit of them. if ye do have a falling out over it there is no work done so get somebody else.

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