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Can intellgence and happiness co-exist?

  • 07-02-2010 9:08pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,658 ✭✭✭


    The older i get, the more i learn and the more i see things for what they are, the less I feel content.

    Do you think that it is possible to be happy while you become more and more aware of nasty things in the world. I guess you can be intelligent enough to distract your mnd from them or similar.

    For me its a trade off between the two. Best summed up by the saying "ignorance is bliss"


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  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,238 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    I like to believe so

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    In the correct environment, yes - I don't see why not.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭karlog


    I'm happy therefore i'm an idiot


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,986 ✭✭✭Red Hand


    Its all about distracting yourself, methinks. Whether thats through drink/nights out/looking forward to holidays/whatever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    I'd like to think I'm intelligent, and I'm happy (most of the time).

    Just because one is intelligent to be aware enough of world troubles, doesn't mean their life should revolve around them. There's plenty of things to be happy about in life too.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    Dunno.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 446 ✭✭Lillylilly


    I find that as I get older and more interested in the world around me, it seems to harder to be happy and free spirited.
    I get frustrated, angry, anxious, cynical and sad about things that go on in the world. I think that if you aim to change things in a more positive way, you start reaping small benefits, even if it's just promoting community spirit by calling into an elderly neighbour or donating to a charity to support work they do.
    I try very hard to find something beautiful in every day life- like the lovely colours in the sky (they change constantly!) or watching children and their parents have silly conversations. It's a nice task to set at the start of every day, and makes you seek out the nice things in life, even if you still get caught up in the News. And hit the Sunshine, Rainbows and Lollipops forum once in a while!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 380 ✭✭gigawatt


    I agree with this post! intelligence enhances your ability to enjoy the good things in life it just sounds like you're focusing too much on negative stuff.everything is balanced overall. dont worry be happy!!!!:):):):):):):):):):)
    brummytom wrote: »
    I'd like to think I'm intelligent, and I'm happy (most of the time).

    Just because one is intelligent to be aware enough of world troubles, doesn't mean their life should revolve around them. There's plenty of things to be happy about in life too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,215 ✭✭✭Mrmoe


    Yes it can. You can feel unhappy however if you feel that you are helpless to change the world around you or you lose the will to stop trying. There are loads of beautiful thongs in the world and intelligence can help you see them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 377 ✭✭OI


    I think you have to detach yourself from the troubles of the world. Be aware of them yes, it's important to know what's going on in the world.

    The older I get, the happier I am. I concentrate on what's really important which is the people that I love. If anything were to happen to them, them I don't think I would be as happy. So I put my efforts into improving life for the small group. I can't affect some of the worlds atrocities, nature is responsible for some / greed, corruption and the pursuit if money power is responsible for most.

    Irish people are lucky that we live in a free state, free speech and will. People always aspire to greater riches, promotion, a more beautiful partner, whatever and they end up unhappy. Be grateful for your lot. Enjoy the people you love, laugh a lot and listen to people - that's a big key. Talk about the atrocities aswell and bad government, it leads to a better understanding of the world, but that's only a part of your life. Live for the moment.

    Finally ...... Yore ma


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭Herbal Deity


    If you think intelligence and happiness can co-exist, you probably just think you're intelligent ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭nij


    Here's what you do OP: Think of someone you admire or look up to who is in a similar position to you, an intelligent person who seems to be enjoying life and dealing with it. We shall call this person your 'Brian Boitano' (for reasons that will become clear in a second). Whenever you encounter a person or situation that gets you down, just ask yourself, "What would Brian Boitano do?"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 542 ✭✭✭cleremy jarkson


    Mrmoe wrote: »
    Yes it can. You can feel unhappy however if you feel that you are helpless to change the world around you or you lose the will to stop trying. There are loads of beautiful thongs in the world and intelligence can help you see them.

    He said the word "thongs" instead of "things".

    I pointed it out to you's all because OBVIOUSLY nobody else would have seen it.

    Now shower me with thanks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭we'llallhavetea_old


    stupid people can be miserable fcukers too :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭caseyann


    Wow i dont know i think ignorance is bliss :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭Herbal Deity


    caseyann wrote: »
    Wow i dont know i think ignorance is bliss :D
    Indeed.

    I think it's quite obvious you're ecstatic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,075 ✭✭✭Pacing Mule


    Can intellgence and happiness co-exist?



    I'm smart and I have a penis so yes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭caseyann


    Indeed.

    I think it's quite obvious you're ecstatic.


    Dont hate :( I choose path of ignorance for happiness sake.which would you prefer happiness or intelligence? toss up happiness wins:D

    Dont hate on you for been miserable and intelligent :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,150 ✭✭✭kumate_champ07


    yes


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    The older i get, the more i learn and the more i see things for what they are, the less I feel content.

    Do you think that it is possible to be happy while you become more and more aware of nasty things in the world. I guess you can be intelligent enough to distract your mnd from them or similar.

    For me its a trade off between the two. Best summed up by the saying "ignorance is bliss"

    Do you really get unhappy because bad things happen in the world? :confused: I personally could care less. For example whilst the recent earthquake in Haiti was unfortunate it certainly has absolutely no effect on my level of happiness.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,803 ✭✭✭El Siglo


    caseyann wrote: »
    Wow i dont know i think ignorance is bliss :D

    If Ignorance Is Bliss, Why Aren't There More Happy People? - Thomas Jefferson.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭pirelli


    Intelligence is an umbrella term describing a property of the mind comprehending related abilities, such as the capacities for abstract thought, reasoning, planning and problem solving, the use of language, and to learn. Intelligence is variously defined; it includes intellectual traits such as creativity, personality, character, knowledge, and wisdom.

    Theories of intelligence are two-fold: (i) the “single intelligence” based upon the unilinear construct of “general intelligence”, and (ii) the construct of multiple intelligences. Influenced by his cousin Charles Darwin, Francis Galton was the first scientist to propose a theory of general intelligence; that intelligence is a true, biologically-based mental faculty that can be studied by measuring a person’s reaction times to cognitive tasks. Galton’s research in measuring the head sizes of British scientists and laymen led to the conclusion that head-size is unrelated to a person’s intelligence.

    If I understand what you mean. I could be doing an activity and experience happiness and not neccessairly be able to rationalise or undertsand it and most importantly i have no need to. Perhaps my emotional and multipile intellgenices are at peace or nurturing. It might be devoid of intelligence or it might be co existing with intelligence.

    However a greater intelligence and more logical intelligence reminds me that the axioms of the earth whilst presently wonderful are slowly and inevitabley moving towards the sun. My life has a decay ratio that has to resolved. That true happiness is a sympony of mathmatical theorems so complex and i must strive to find harmony between them and the universe and find a new earth for all the living creature's.

    I then realise that even the galaxies will one day decay and I must bring earth to every corner of the universe so that all of it creatures can live in this wonderful splendour for ever.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 130 ✭✭christmasinjuly


    of course but you ll always over analysis things


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭Agricola


    The happiest most care free people ive ever met are usually the ones who couldnt name the minister for finance or who think NAMA is a sports organisation. So yeah, i think generally speaking ignorance is bliss. The more you learn, the more cynical you become, the harder you have to work to content yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,073 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    It's just a ride ... or, at least, a movie. From what I see, the happiest people are able to do certain things, in life, that movie fans do in the cinema:
    • follow the narrative. There's got to be one. If there isn't one, invent one;
    • suspension of disbelief: ignore inconsistencies in the plot or characters, focus on the bits that make sense to you;
    • expect a happy ending, even if it takes a last-minute twist that renders the rest of the movie nonsensical;
    • believe that good guys always win, and bad guys always lose, in the end.
    In short: to be happy, you ought to turn off your brain, go to church, sing the pretty hymns, and believe the words. Those pesky atheists, who ask too many questions and expect beliefs to be backed by objective evidence, are not going to be happy in this life, and don't believe in another life after this one.

    Well, you did ask ... ;)

    You are the type of what the age is searching for, and what it is afraid it has found. I am so glad that you have never done anything, never carved a statue, or painted a picture, or produced anything outside of yourself! Life has been your art. You have set yourself to music. Your days are your sonnets.

    ―Oscar Wilde predicting Social Media, in The Picture of Dorian Gray



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,492 ✭✭✭Thomas828


    Well, I like to think I'm fairly intelligent. I also think I'm happy too. I hear evidence on the news every day as to what a miserable, screwed-up world we live in, but there's precious little I can do about it. I've only got one life in this world and I'm not going to waste it fretting about things I've no control over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Supposedly there's a link between Insanity and Genius, they're not in any way exclusive to one another, but closely related at least

    The intricacies of the mind are still less understood than the deepest oceans


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭tech77




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 94 ✭✭DaveSlats


    They used to have a saying in the DDR:

    Integrity/Honesty
    Intelligence
    Loyalty to the system.

    You can have any combination except all three.

    Doesn't really translate, but you get the drift.

    That's why the movie 'The Lives of Others' was panned by former East Germans. The main character, the writer, had all three.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,468 ✭✭✭Doozie


    The fact that you realise there is a certain amount of tragedy in the world should make you see how lucky you are and therefore be happy. I dont think that makes anyone stupid.
    You need intelligence to be able to use that information to your benefit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28 donkeyshaft


    I think therefore I want to kill people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭Whyno


    My head is wrecked reading this....:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,738 ✭✭✭Naos


    I remember watching a programme about some genius kids. A professor was chatting to a kid and the following conversation ensued:

    Prof: If you could only choose one, would you choose to keep your intelligence or emotions?
    Kid: My intelligence.
    Prof: Why?
    Kid: Because then I would never feel sad.
    Prof: (Thinking he caught the kid out here, smirking) But then you could never feel happy.:cool:
    Kid: True, but I wouldn't care.
    Prof: :eek:

    Epic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    I think it's harder work to be happy when you are aware of the pain in the world.

    How could you be a surgeon in say Crumlin's Children's Hospital and then go home whistling dixie.

    Then again Pete, maybe that makes the doctor more appreciative of his health.

    Hhmmm, I've proved myself wrong, good point Outlaw .. doh!



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,789 ✭✭✭Caoimhín


    I am a genius but I have learned to not give a fúck about the needy, the poor, the sick, the oppressed or any of the other problems of the planet.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,789 ✭✭✭Caoimhín


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    How could you be a surgeon in say Crumlin's Children's Hospital and then go home whistling dixie.

    I would carry out twisted experiments.

    Sewing children together for example would almost certainly result in hilarity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,691 ✭✭✭JimmyCrackCorn


    The older i get, the more i learn and the more i see things for what they are, the less I feel content.

    Do you think that it is possible to be happy while you become more and more aware of nasty things in the world. I guess you can be intelligent enough to distract your mnd from them or similar.

    For me its a trade off between the two. Best summed up by the saying "ignorance is bliss"


    Yes, happiness and intelligence have no link. Grass is greener syndrome?

    You can be dumb and depressed just as much as you can be smart and depressed.

    Happiness like everything takes a little work its not automatic. You can make my life just miserable or happy its down to you.


    Or in boards speak

    UR MA!:D


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Nope, ah well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,893 ✭✭✭Davidius


    Well I'm happy and I'm intelligent.

    In fact, I'm so intelligent that everybody tells me I'm a good boy when I nearly get that sum right. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    Here, when did Frada retire as AH mod?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    Confab wrote: »
    Here, when did Frada retire as AH mod?

    When he found out intelligence and happiness can indeed co-exsist (elsewhere) :pac:

    He still MODs Cool Vids and runs the AH Photocomp each week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,406 ✭✭✭Pompey Magnus


    I don't think a person can be truely happy and not suspend some of their intelligence. They may be satisfied with their lot, but can someone be fully happy when also they consider the suffering and pain that is prevelant on Earth? I don't think so.

    "It is better to be a human being dissatisfied than a pig satisfied; better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a fool satisfied. And if the fool, or the pig, are of a different opinion, it is because they only know their own side of the question. The other party to the comparison knows both sides."

    -John Stuart Mill


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