good value on 125hp tractor

vanderbadger

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/tractors/1024039
seems pretty cheap, i think this model is onthe way out though, but still

reilig

vanderbadger wrote: »

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/tractors/1024039
seems pretty cheap, i think this model is onthe way out though, but still

Its good value all right. I wonder what's the resale value like on them - if it is so cheap with only 40 hours on the clock, what would you get one for with 4000 hours on it? I don't think the larger Kubota tractors have been on the market long enough for us to know.

irishh_bob

thats for sale from JF hanley in roscomon , sound people but they wouldnt be regarded as the cheapest for stuff so i would say price is about right

GERMAN ROCKS

i dont know would they be much good to pull. i would rather have a tm120 orf massey 6465 anyday. i suppose they would be grand for wrapping, drawing bales spreading fertilizer eg light jobs etc. arfe they 4 or 6 cylinder turbos

snowman707

GERMAN ROCKS wrote: »

i dont know would they be much good to pull. i would rather have a tm120 orf massey 6465 anyday. i suppose they would be grand for wrapping, drawing bales spreading fertilizer eg light jobs etc. arfe they 4 or 6 cylinder turbos

the M125X is a 5 cly turbo
streets ahead of a tm120 in lines of performance, fuel efficiency & reliability

Casinoking

The Kubota seem to be a simple, reliable tractor and anyone who has one speaks very highly of them. I know of a few people who traded in 90-90's and 110-90's for them, seem to be along similar uncomplicated mechanical lines. As an aside, if anyone needs 125hp for wrapping, spreading fertiliser and other light work I'd love to know what they use for the big jobs!

dar31

they seem to be good enough. neat and tidy and simple enough, a good stock-mans tractor. cant see to many machinery heads buying them, would definitely consider them myself, at the end of the day they are built by Japanese

vanderbadger

i think the 125 is being replaced by 128, have been reading up on them and they seem nice enough job, gear shift can be done from armrest as well as gearstick which look neat, also they seem very tidy sized and apparently they are very tight turning machine

Bitten & Hisses

If I was looking to buy a new tractor, I'd be giving one of these some serious consideration. Kubotas may not have huge market penetration, but you don't hear many bad reports about them.

reilig

Bitten & Hisses wrote: »

If I was looking to buy a new tractor, I'd be giving one of these some serious consideration. Kubotas may not have huge market penetration, but you don't hear many bad reports about them.

They look nice. But could the fact that we don't hear bad reports about them be that they do not have huge market penetration??

I don't live too far from JF Hanley in Roscommon, they are a main dealer for these. I wonder have they sold many of them? I regularly go to Marts in Elphin, Roscommon and Castlerea. I haven't once seen a Kubota.

I haven't heard many bad reports about the Farmers tractors, but I still wouldn't touch one with a barge pole.

Sorry, it looks like I'm having a go at you, I'm really not. But is there anyone on here who has a Kubota tractor in everyday use??? I bought a new tractor last year. Kubota tractors were never even considered. I don't know anyone with one.

pakalasa

'Farmers Weekly' review of the M125X.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zXeYY7qr4k

I know someone who has one. I had a look over it. It struck me as a solidly built, no nonsense tractor.

gerardk55

I work with a guy here who got a 100HP Kubota about 2 years ago and he swears by it. I'd value his opinion as has been trading in machinery and contracting for 20 odd years.

Looks like a sound investment to me.

Bitten & Hisses

reilig wrote: »

They look nice. But could the fact that we don't hear bad reports about them be that they do not have huge market penetration??

I don't live too far from JF Hanley in Roscommon, they are a main dealer for these. I wonder have they sold many of them? I regularly go to Marts in Elphin, Roscommon and Castlerea. I haven't once seen a Kubota.

I haven't heard many bad reports about the Farmers tractors, but I still wouldn't touch one with a barge pole.

Sorry, it looks like I'm having a go at you, I'm really not. But is there anyone on here who has a Kubota tractor in everyday use??? I bought a new tractor last year. Kubota tractors were never even considered. I don't know anyone with one.

No offence taken! I guess worries about the 3-year resale value would eliminate a Kubota from your shortlist.
There are some interesting discussions on the UK farming forum:

http://farmingforum.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?p=387259
http://farmingforum.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?p=109306

irishh_bob

reilig wrote: »

They look nice. But could the fact that we don't hear bad reports about them be that they do not have huge market penetration??

I don't live too far from JF Hanley in Roscommon, they are a main dealer for these. I wonder have they sold many of them? I regularly go to Marts in Elphin, Roscommon and Castlerea. I haven't once seen a Kubota.

I haven't heard many bad reports about the Farmers tractors, but I still wouldn't touch one with a barge pole.

Sorry, it looks like I'm having a go at you, I'm really not. But is there anyone on here who has a Kubota tractor in everyday use??? I bought a new tractor last year. Kubota tractors were never even considered. I don't know anyone with one.

jf hanley are mainly a quad bike and forrestry equipment dealer , tractors are very much secondary to thier business , as for kubota , thier entry into the larger tractor market is a very recent event in this country but they have been a very popular large tractor in north america , australia and new zealand for decades and as for the small tractor ( under 30 hp ) market , they dominate , as another poster stated , they are japaneese , how could you go wrong

snowman707

My neighbour has a 06 with 2500 hours and swears by it, my son used to give him a hand till this year as his own lad was under 16 and wasnt covered on the road,
my lad said that pound for pound the kubota was better than the NH and far lighter on fuel. drawing silage trailers last year the kubota travelled where the NH failed with similar trailer, far better weight distribution and traction.

we were considering buying 1 over selves but then the valtra came our way at right money

some serious problems emerging with some of the NH gearboxes at anything over 7-8K hours ..... bearing failure seems they used spurious Chinese bearings. anything from €4000 to €6000 for repair, NH dealers are denying this but I was speaking my mechanic who saw the bearings removed

A friend of mine serviced the smaller kubota kit for years and says even back then it was superior to Honda etc.

reilig

snowman707 wrote: »

some serious problems emerging with some of the NH gearboxes at anything over 7-8K hours ..... bearing failure seems they used spurious Chinese bearings. anything from €4000 to €6000 for repair, NH dealers are denying this but I was speaking my mechanic who saw the bearings removed

I have heard the same about gearbox on Same/Hurliman/Deutz and some of the smaller John Deere (under 100hp). Have a friend who works in the JD garage and he recons that there's tractors coming back to them with less than 3000 hours on them and the gearbox completely Kaput. He says that almost 1 in 3 JD's of under 100hp comes back to them with a gearbox problem caused by faulty bearings. Its rife on tractors with loaders. Its hit and miss no matter what tractor you have I think. I have a cousin with a 106 hp Valtra with only 1200 hours on it. It has already had 2 new clutches and a gearbox overhall under warranty. A lot of it may be due to the driver, but sure any tractor that develops a fault is normally through the fault of the driver.

I have no doubt about japanese reliability. Its just nice to hear other people's experiences of Kubota. As I said, there are none of them around here. As you know yourself, if farmers don't see other people with them, then its unlikely that they will buy them.

mossfort

reilig wrote: »

I have heard the same about gearbox on Same/Hurliman/Deutz and some of the smaller John Deere (under 100hp). Have a friend who works in the JD garage and he recons that there's tractors coming back to them with less than 3000 hours on them and the gearbox completely Kaput. He says that almost 1 in 3 JD's of under 100hp comes back to them with a gearbox problem caused by faulty bearings. Its rife on tractors with loaders. Its hit and miss no matter what tractor you have I think. I have a cousin with a 106 hp Valtra with only 1200 hours on it. It has already had 2 new clutches and a gearbox overhall under warranty. A lot of it may be due to the driver, but sure any tractor that develops a fault is normally through the fault of the driver.

I have no doubt about japanese reliability. Its just nice to hear other people's experiences of Kubota. As I said, there are none of them around here. As you know yourself, if farmers don't see other people with them, then its unlikely that they will buy them.

id say the deutz problem would be with the agrofarm version which are basically a same with a deutz engine and not the agrotron which are a far superior tractor with a very reliable zf gearbox.
i know the new holland tractors are having problems because a neighbour bought his new in 06 and sent it off to have the gearbox repaired a few months ago.
for a valtra tractor needing so much work done with such low hours is must be down to abusing the tractor.

snowman707

reilig wrote: »

I have heard the same about gearbox on Same/Hurliman/Deutz and some of the smaller John Deere (under 100hp). Have a friend who works in the JD garage and he recons that there's tractors coming back to them with less than 3000 hours on them and the gearbox completely Kaput. He says that almost 1 in 3 JD's of under 100hp comes back to them with a gearbox problem caused by faulty bearings. Its rife on tractors with loaders. Its hit and miss no matter what tractor you have I think. I have a cousin with a 106 hp Valtra with only 1200 hours on it. It has already had 2 new clutches and a gearbox overhall under warranty. A lot of it may be due to the driver, but sure any tractor that develops a fault is normally through the fault of the driver.

I have no doubt about japanese reliability. Its just nice to hear other people's experiences of Kubota. As I said, there are none of them around here. As you know yourself, if farmers don't see other people with them, then its unlikely that they will buy them.

haven't heard about the gearbox issues on the small jd,s but knew there were problems with the bearing in the half shaft of the larger ones 06 onward.

seems ridiculous the initial saving were about €700 per tractor, it is now costing thousands to put right.

seems the bearings in question break down when working at high temperature for long periods, and were not tested as such,

reilig

Personally I think that the gearbox and clutch problems on a lot of tractors could be avoided if the drivers got proper training on how to operate them. You see people horseing gears, starting off in second or third gear and guys with loaders driving into loads until they smell the clutch burning.

A lot of contractors will not take on young fellows because for a few euro extra per week, they can have an experienced driver who will not destroy their machines. There will be problems with any machine, no matter what the manufacturer, if if it is not driven properly!!

snowman707 wrote: »

haven't heard about the gearbox issues on the small jd,s but knew there were problems with the bearing in the half shaft of the larger ones 06 onward.

seems ridiculous the initial saving were about €700 per tractor, it is now costing thousands to put right.

seems the bearings in question break down when working at high temperature for long periods, and were not tested as such,

ross m

i drive a m125x for a contractor in kildare supplied by dowzer agri engineers in wicklow and i swear by it, VERY VERY economical on fuel, loads of power when you need it it.we have a quicke loader on it aswell and it is the perfect combination. does everythin from ploughin, ringrolling, grubbing, mowing, baling, wrapping and moving the 13 tonne hitachi on a nc low loader. never had a single fault with it goes forever on a tank of fuel and is extremly comfortable to drive and very easy to operate. simple reliable japanese machine i'd pick one over any 100-125hp tractor. only thing i dont like about it is the road speed.. 22mph, bit slow for moving from jobs but ya cant have everything. it never let us down in the two years we've had it:).

snowman707

any reports on the M128X, ?

vanderbadger

ross m wrote: »

i drive a m125x for a contractor in kildare supplied by dowzer agri engineers in wicklow and i swear by it, VERY VERY economical on fuel, loads of power when you need it it.we have a quicke loader on it aswell and it is the perfect combination. does everythin from ploughin, ringrolling, grubbing, mowing, baling, wrapping and moving the 13 tonne hitachi on a nc low loader. never had a single fault with it goes forever on a tank of fuel and is extremly comfortable to drive and very easy to operate. simple reliable japanese machine i'd pick one over any 100-125hp tractor. only thing i dont like about it is the road speed.. 22mph, bit slow for moving from jobs but ya cant have everything. it never let us down in the two years we've had it:).

snap! bought one earlier this year, very happy with it, have done my own small bit of baling and found it great, just easy to use, no fuss. as you say its slow on the road, the 128 has a 40k box i think, also find it hard to see the hitch, its slightly tricky to pick up stuff on first go, also hydraulic couplings are old type and kinda ****ty, its v good on fuel though. sat in a 128 at the dealer, no real diff i noticed in cab anyway but engine is changed i believe

Dunedin

vanderbadger wrote: »

also find it hard to see the hitch, its slightly tricky to pick up stuff on first go

put a mirror on the back window pointing to the hitch and that should sort it...... maybe you've tried that???

vanderbadger

Dunedin wrote: »

put a mirror on the back window pointing to the hitch and that should sort it...... maybe you've tried that???

no havent done that on kubota, have that on the other tractor alright and in fairness its works

snowman707

vanderbadger wrote: »

its v good on fuel though. sat in a 128 at the dealer, no real diff i noticed in cab anyway but engine is changed i believe

yeah 4 cyl turbo, and as you say 40 k box

I presume you bought off the guy in north clare, heard he is sound to deal with.