g&g g96 or ares aw338

damagegt

Im picking up a l96 gas powered gun and i have it down to 2 choices any help on deciding which 1 would be better either the g&g g96 or the ares AW338?

extremetaz

Have the ARES .338 - it's a great piece of kit but it's a heavy beast to be lugging around.

Standard barrell is also a 6.05mm, it performs admirably and I haven't changed mine but will probably go for a 6.03mm at least and maybe a 6.01mm (funds willing) if I do change it.

She has a matchgrade hop as standard and it does an excellent job.

Mine was one of the first ones and came with a scope - don't know if they still provide that in the pack anymore. If they do though, it's a great piece of kit too. M3 replica with adjustments scaled for airsoft - very effective.

Be warned though, owing to it's weight, this is not a fire and move peice of kit (unless you're really determined) so be prepared to take a position and provide overwatch with *very* occasional shots fired.

I've used it running around in a marksmans role on occasion, and whilst it can be done (and is incredibly gratifying) it's a hell of a lot of work.

So in short I suppose -

If you want to have to heft some serious meat around and don't mind the effort involved, then this thing reigns supreme

If you want to be able to manoeuvre easily, go with the '96.

damagegt

how would you think it would handle a hpa system?the weight wouldn't bother me so much must guns i use and heavy weights.Iv read that's its a good idea replacing the o-rings, have you replaced them or had any problems with the stock o-rings?Is yours the cnc version with the fluted barrel?

SOCOM

Hi I own a clone of the AW.338, folding stock fluted barrel scope bipod etc, just want to know how you find it over long ranges, mine drops off very quickly even after hop up adjustment and with a gaurder hop up installed, any ideas?

extremetaz

damagegt wrote: »

how would you think it would handle a hpa system?the weight wouldn't bother me so much must guns i use and heavy weights.Iv read that's its a good idea replacing the o-rings, have you replaced them or had any problems with the stock o-rings?Is yours the cnc version with the fluted barrel?

Has the fluted barrel but not the CNC model, it's the first one that was available. Haven't had any hassle whatsoever with the O-rings.

Wouldn't bother with a HPA rig - it'll put it way over the limit for this country and it's fairly easy on gas anyways. Will run about 46 shots (two full mag strips) on a single gas charge no hassle.

extremetaz

SOCOM wrote: »

Hi I own a clone of the AW.338, folding stock fluted barrel scope bipod etc, just want to know how you find it over long ranges, mine drops off very quickly even after hop up adjustment and with a gaurder hop up installed, any ideas?

Can't help I'm afraid - mine works perfectly once the hop is set right. Haven't ever had to change any of the parts on it.

Mine sends them fairly flat and bead straight right out to 30m, from there she requires +1 elevation for every 2m out to 50m.

After 50m, it would want to be a perfectly still day.

SOCOM

thanks chief:)

damagegt

ill be keeping the pressure of the hpa down so it will be fine with the limit, it was only going to be for consistency.well you seem to be having no problems with it ill wait and see if i can get something on g96.The only thing that's putting me off is for the same money i get a bi-pod, mono-pod, and adjustable cheek rest with the ares.Would you know where there's any for sale?mainirishairsoft had them but there out of stock

extremetaz

damagegt wrote: »

ill be keeping the pressure of the hpa down so it will be fine with the limit, it was only going to be for consistency.well you seem to be having no problems with it ill wait and see if i can get something on g96.The only thing that's putting me off is for the same money i get a bi-pod, mono-pod, and adjustable cheek rest with the ares.Would you know where there's any for sale?mainirishairsoft had them but there out of stock

No idea who stocks them but I'm sure eirsoft could get one for you with their partner deals.

You have a point about he regulation provided by the HPA system. The stock mags are just a hammer valve so temp does tend to play havoc with them. When you're pricing one, let me know - might consider playing with the notion myself.

damagegt

no problem ill find about the gun first and ill let you know when i make a start on the hpa.thanks again

Firekitten

that you grade 50m as good is sortof a telltale sign...

Don't know much about the g&g l96 system... largely unproven but worth a look. The Ares is a bit crap frankly... as far as gas sniper rifles go. You're far better off with the TM l96 or the Maruzen.

The TM atleast uses the vsr hop, which at 1j can put your rounds to 70m. Yes, Proven... I do it.

Puding

from experiencing i would stay away from gas for a sniper platform due to the inconstancy of the system unless your going to invest a lot of case

would go with spring myself the tm l96 is a great options especially with all the upgrades coming onto the market

SOCOM

I am currently trying to sell/swap my clone AW.338, in the box, scope,mount, bipod,sling etc, if anyone is interested?
its the folding stock version with fluted barrel

extremetaz

Firekitten wrote: »

that you grade 50m as good is sortof a telltale sign...

Don't know much about the g&g l96 system... largely unproven but worth a look. The Ares is a bit crap frankly... as far as gas sniper rifles go. You're far better off with the TM l96 or the Maruzen.

The TM atleast uses the vsr hop, which at 1j can put your rounds to 70m. Yes, Proven... I do it.

!!YOU!! are awesome - I am presently basking in your awesomeness. Go you!!

I'm gonna go buy a TM L96 tomorrow and throw my .338 in the skip.

Thank you for showing me the light!

damagegt

i know ya i think everytime i ask a question in here i seem to get nothing but smart ass answers from some people.Well i heard you can put a vsr 10 hop-up and ill try get a edgi custom tightbore (6.00) with them and maruzen super sniper bbs and a hpa system ill see how good i can get it.Already have a bar-10 so i want to try gas instead of spring.

Stercus Accidit

Puding wrote: »

from experiencing i would stay away from gas for a sniper platform due to the inconstancy of the system unless your going to invest a lot of case

would go with spring myself the tm l96 is a great options especially with all the upgrades coming onto the market

The TM has the nice proper mags and all.

Puding

yep, had a few go thought the shop and tbh i loved them, and really nice performance stock, for someone just looking to get into sniping in airsoft it something to consider as it competitive out of the box

Firekitten

extremetaz wrote: »

!!YOU!! are awesome - I am presently basking in your awesomeness. Go you!!

I'm gonna go buy a TM L96 tomorrow and throw my .338 in the skip.

Thank you for showing me the light!

You know... when they said sarcasm was the highest form of wit... they were right, It apears you missed the memo where sarcasm is supposed to be subtle, clever, and witty... Not as obvious as an errection at a pool party.

I know you like your rifle, and its a lovely build.... its just not one of the best performing sniper rifles, gas or otherwise, and in the grand scale of things, isn't worth what they charge... I was frank and honest with my post. I'm not pro g&g or anti Ares. I say it like it is, and well... thats how I called it. The guy wants a decent l96, as Puding and I have said, he will look up TM, or if he's loaded, maruzen.

Then again this is boards... so you're probably serious about throwing it in the skip, you can give it to me instead if you'd like.




(Now that was sarcasm properly applied. see?)

Masada

Well if your talking about getting a realist one, then gas is the way to go. cocking the spring isnt exactly realistic, its consistent though.
Im not made on the TM really though, it just doesnt "feel" like a good quality rifle. (one of the things i didnt like about the VSR too)
The Ares is a lovely piece of kit but as Taz said, its a dead weight. the G&G is also a very good performer bit Im not gone on the bolt. its not as smooth as that of the ares and it can feel a bit sticky at times. I'd go with the ares.

damagegt

ya im with you on that.im not gone on the spring rifles they just don't have the weight and feel i want from a rifle so its gonna defiantly be gas.does the bolt in the ares move around a lot?its the only thing that gets to me about gas rifles , ill call to eirsoft over the weekend and have a look at the g&g and try find some1 with the ares and take a look at that.So the majority are saying to go with the ares?

Firekitten

Masada wrote: »

Well if your talking about getting a realist one, then gas is the way to go. cocking the spring isnt exactly realistic, its consistent though.
Im not made on the TM really though, it just doesnt "feel" like a good quality rifle. (one of the things i didnt like about the VSR too)
The Ares is a lovely piece of kit but as Taz said, its a dead weight. the G&G is also a very good performer bit Im not gone on the bolt. its not as smooth as that of the ares and it can feel a bit sticky at times. I'd go with the ares.

So buy a gun that looks good, but doesnt work well?

damagegt wrote: »

ya im with you on that.im not gone on the spring rifles they just don't have the weight and feel i want from a rifle so its gonna defiantly be gas.does the bolt in the ares move around a lot?its the only thing that gets to me about gas rifles , ill call to eirsoft over the weekend and have a look at the g&g and try find some1 with the ares and take a look at that.So the majority are saying to go with the ares?

Ok Damagegt.... heres the 411. Gas sniper rifles need an aweful lot of money spent on them to get decent performance. Period. They are extremely weather sensative, and next to useless in the winter.

Spring rifles are by far, the most consistent, best performing and accuate options, WITH and without a thousand euros of upgrades.

As myself and Puding recomended, the TM, or, the Maruzen rifles are the way to go if you want performance, and a good sniper rifle that is the l96.

They DO have the weight, especially the maruzen, with a scope and bipod and such, its 6kg of a weapon... with upgrades its excelent and beyond peer.

The TM gun is grand out of the box... a straight shooter clocking in just under 1j. That is your cheapest option. Yes, cheap in sniper rifles is relative, not just the cheapest out of the box.

Though if you just want one that looks pretty, but the well or ares 338.

damagegt

as i said twice over the thread ITS DEFIANTLY GOING TO BE GAS and im connecting a hpa system which isn't affected by the weather .Thanks for the advice on the springers but im only interested on your views of the two gas guns.I have no problem spending money upgrading as i said the ares takes a vsr hop up and a cumtom 6.00 bore barrel.thanks agin tho

Masada

Who said it didnt work well? It works perfectly well.

Its a lovely solid rifle though, serious weight and a good performer, mags are a little on the rare side last time i checked but i think you can get Co2 ones now/soon anyway.

damagegt

ill have a look at both the ares and the g&g tomorrow,i suppose you can only get so much from an airsoft gun no matter if its spring/gas or electric theres only gonna be so far you can hit and a person is pretty big in target size terms, so i guess its all done to consistency and quality parts and the life of the gun.which ever i choose im sure ill be happy and if not i can always flog it here.

Firekitten

Masada wrote: »

Who said it didnt work well? It works perfectly well.

Its a lovely solid rifle though, serious weight and a good performer, mags are a little on the rare side last time i checked but i think you can get Co2 ones now/soon anyway.

It doesnt.... Its universally accepted in sniper circles the world over as 'mediocre'... Unless you qualify that as good performance...

You can get mags easy... just not the ammo part of the mag (two part magazine)

Ok, big heavy gun with HPA system.... ok, you know best damagegt... you do what you like. but its going to be big, bulky and slow, and still mediocre. You've had our advice.


You do realise gas sniper rifles dont have recoil right? if thats what you're aiming for.

Bullwhip

damagegt;
Here is a link to a review of the G&G G96, it might provide you with a little information:

http://www.airsoftretreat.com/forums/index.php?topic=90819.0

Good Luck, and I will be watching to see which you choose as I find both of them interesting as well.

damagegt

firekitten i reuse to entertain you any more.ill be asking the mods is there any way to block you from answering on threads i put up.Thanks every1 else for your advice




excellent bullwhip that's just what i was looking for.

Firekitten

I'm sorry you don't like the advice i'm offering Damagegt... I'm simply trying to help... I'm sorry you don't like what I have to say, but this is a discussion forum and people won't always agree. It's my view, that that paticular model isnt very good for its job... and as I said, fine... if you want it, get it.

If you belive that to be argumentative and annoying and disruptive... by all means ask them to ban me. I've been nothing but nice, helpful, and informative in this thread. As you clearly dont want help, I will comply with your wish to nolonger post in this thread.

Inari

FireKitten knows her stuff wtih sniping, I know when I wanted information that she was nothing but nice, and gave the facts and her opinions clearly stated (i..e she didn't state opinion as fact, rather gave all informationa nd then her opinion on top of that).

Why are you hell bent on gas? I know you've siad a better weight and feel, but you can make the other snipers heavier. The BAR 10 for example, you can remove the end part of the stock and put in some weights to balance it better. It's just something to consider.

damagegt

Im sure firekitten does knows his/her stuff but i didn't ask for a lecture on the guns i was choosing between or the inadequacy of gas.

i have a bar 10 upgraded and im finished with spring and electric.And its just a project for me using a hpa system so im trying to find what would be the best between the 2 guns i stated for me to base my project.

extremetaz

Masada wrote: »

Who said it didnt work well? It works perfectly well.

Its a lovely solid rifle though, serious weight and a good performer, mags are a little on the rare side last time i checked but i think you can get Co2 ones now/soon anyway.

CO2 mags are available yes but they require the install of a heavier bolt spring and are WAYYYYY over (just about ok for Berget).

VERY consistent though - regardless of temp.

I've never had any hassle getting ammo strips for mine - have 4 of them and that's more than you'll ever use.