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threadding rifles

  • 03-02-2010 3:14pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166 ✭✭


    I need to get contact details for someone good for threadding rifles. Not just a dude with a laith someone who understands ballisics & tolerances etc preferably in the west of the republic. Also can any of you legal eagles tell me where we all stand with regard to proofing moderators.

    Thanks in anticipation.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,898 ✭✭✭poulo6.5


    emcor wrote: »
    I need to get contact details for someone good for threadding rifles. Not just a dude with a laith someone who understands ballisics & tolerances etc preferably in the west of the republic. Also can any of you legal eagles tell me where we all stand with regard to proofing moderators.

    Thanks in anticipation.

    john green
    southern rifle and optics 051881945 0863554425.

    there are a few lads on here that have had some work done by him and are very happy. i'v bin to meet him twice now and as soon as i can afford it he will be building a rifle for me.

    best of luck.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭bunny shooter


    Fergal White in Athlone would be loser to you and he seems to be good from what I've heard


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭dwighet


    definitely J. Greene....I get all my work done by him and its always spot on...
    Also heard very good reports of Fergal in Athlone.....
    Threading a muzzle is definitely not for the back yarder.Get it done right and you wont have to get it done again.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30 quigley


    Joohn Greene is your man - he is a an expert machinist and he knows ballistics. Better him that somebody who may end up scaring the outside of your barrel. I get all suppressors fitted by him! PS - this is not John Greene


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Glensman


    Any estimate on what he charges? i have a 10/22T I want to get threaded this Spring...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 703 ✭✭✭BELOWaverageIQ


    quigley wrote: »
    Joohn Greene is your man - he is a an expert machinist and he knows ballistics. Better him that somebody who may end up scaring the outside of your barrel. I get all suppressors fitted by him! PS - this is not John Greene

    hi John :-) haha

    Yea , another vote for John from me, he has done a few rifles for me, top class work........…
    no, I'm not John either


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 423 ✭✭triskell


    emcor wrote: »
    I need to get contact details for someone good for threadding rifles. Not just a dude with a laith someone who understands ballisics & tolerances etc preferably in the west of the republic. Also can any of you legal eagles tell me where we all stand with regard to proofing moderators.

    Thanks in anticipation.

    I got all my rifles threaded by Fergal white in athlone www.irelandcustomrifle.com.
    You are dead right about the lad with the lathe, 6 months in fas don't make a machinist. I seem a couple of rifles that have been threaded and are slightly off centre, if your lucky it justs clips the rim of the mod on way out or it goses out through the side of the mod, and then your down a mod at the minimum and your machinist dosen't want to know about it.
    As to the proofing there is no legal requirement on getting a newly threaded rifle proofed here in ireland I suppose in theory it should be proofed as you are changing a part of the firearm and changig it's ability to fire from what it was when it was proofed by the manufacturer. An after market thread job will also void your manufactures warranty. I have never heard of anyone being required to get a thread job proofed.
    now if you send it to england to get it done there, they are required by law to get it proofed..
    I got none of my rifles reproofed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭tomcat220t


    John Greene in waterford is your man ,two rifles done so far and top job each time .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,612 ✭✭✭jwshooter


    the mod and the rifle will have to be proofed in the uk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Glensman


    jwshooter wrote: »
    the mod and the rifle will have to be proofed in the uk.

    Only when/if you go to sell on the rifle...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,612 ✭✭✭jwshooter


    Glensman wrote: »
    Only when/if you go to sell on the rifle...

    not really the point.

    not really true ,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Glensman


    jwshooter wrote: »
    not really the point.

    not really true ,

    Well it is the point and it is true. The big proof-houses only came up with the re-proofing idea as a money making attempt. It was also in the BASC magazine that you could sell on without re-proof as the whole re-proofing for moderator had no basis in law.

    This was confirmed to me by my dealer who said that strictly speakin it needed re-proofed if I decided to sell on but that if I didnt draw attention to it noone would ask...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭dwighet


    jwshooter wrote: »
    the mod and the rifle will have to be proofed in the uk.

    Im prety sure proofing doesnt really have nowt to do with Irish regs at this point in time....Maybe im wrong/maybe im right...Its more of a UK thing isnt it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,612 ✭✭✭jwshooter


    possibly ,until there is a accident .

    there is noting there in the law to stop any one threading a rifle .


    i had a mod explode on me one nite shooting deer with a 243. not a nice experience ,i got a cut above the eye .we never found a few bits of the mod.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Glensman


    jwshooter wrote: »
    possibly ,until there is a accident .

    there is noting there in the law to stop any one threading a rifle .


    i had a mod explode on me one nite shooting deer with a 243. not a nice experience ,i got a cut above the eye .we never found a few bits of the mod.

    Can i ask who did the threading on the rifle?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,612 ✭✭✭jwshooter


    Glensman wrote: »
    Can i ask who did the threading on the rifle?

    you can .

    the mod was at fault.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭ronboy


    jwshooter wrote: »
    you can .

    the mod was at fault.

    How was it the mod ????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭ronboy


    poulo6.5 wrote: »
    john green
    southern rifle and optics 051881945 0863554425.

    there are a few lads on here that have had some work done by him and are very happy. i'v bin to meet him twice now and as soon as i can afford it he will be building a rifle for me.

    best of luck.

    If your going down to that lad make sure you bring a good set of earmuffs:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,909 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    This little gem might put it into context, whatever the Institute for Industrial Research and Standards is now?
    Who/Where are the successors to the IIRS?
    http://historical-debates.oireachtas.ie/S/0065/S.0065.196806270004.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Glensman


    jwshooter wrote: »
    you can .

    the mod was at fault.


    What make/model was the mod? and what calibre was the rifle?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,612 ✭✭✭jwshooter


    Glensman wrote: »
    What make/model was the mod? and what calibre was the rifle?

    the rifle was a 243 ,the mod we a well known uk one , not a t8 or jetz BTW.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭tomcat220t


    ronboy wrote: »
    If your going down to that lad make sure you bring a good set of earmuffs:D:D
    He may talk the talk but he sure can walk the walk aswell .The 2 rifles i got work done shoot better than i ever expected.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,898 ✭✭✭poulo6.5


    ronboy wrote: »
    If your going down to that lad make sure you bring a good set of earmuffs:D:D

    ah now he does chat a bit but it is nice to meet a man that obviously loves his work.

    if you dont want to hear a man talk about rifles then go to almost any other dealer . some guys would give you the impression that they would prefer to be doing anything else than talking to a potential customer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 417 ✭✭customrifle


    Hi lads would have to say Fergal White is the man to speak to for anything to do with rifles from threading right up to building. Was speaking to him last week about getting muzzle break in for me and asking how long it would take he said he would build one for me if i liked, have to say am delighted with it, it actually made the rifle more accurate as he has his tolerances so tight, the bullet path through the brake is only fractionally bigger than the 308 round so if anything is off u would notice straight away and saying u would notice is putting it mildly. But as i said everything is spot on(he threaded rifle it aswell) and it makes the recoil of a snappy 308 feel like less than a 223


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 164 ✭✭zulu_dawn


    another vote for John Greene

    Southern rifle and optics
    051881945
    0863554425

    he is damn hard to get on the phone, best to call around.
    his work speaks for itself - good, tasty and accurate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 453 ✭✭ianoo


    go with john greene,he done an exellent job on mine ,he's a perfectionist when it comes to rifles and you will always learn something new when you visit his shop :D:D:D

    ian


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166 ✭✭emcor


    Thanks million for all the great info. I am working on a really interesting project which I hope to be able to share with you in the coming month.

    BTW for the guy who got the break fitted; are you a target shooter (with muffs) or a stalker ? Is the sound not blistering with the break fitted ?

    All the best - Emcor


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 417 ✭✭customrifle


    Hi, ya its mostly target shooting i do and yes the report from break is loud but only noticable if you dont wear muffs, but the reduction in recoil is amazing with break fergal engineered


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭lefthooker


    Hi lads I was inquiring about getting my rifle threaded & was told about a guy in carlow who does it. Anybody know who he is or has had work done by him?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 703 ✭✭✭BELOWaverageIQ


    Thats probably Sean o Neil in Carlow, good guy.
    (059) 917 9984


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Glensman


    Another vote for Fergal White, was with him yesterday. He cut a barrel and re-crowned and threaded 2. The work looks first class, and he wasn't too hard to pay... I'll be back with him in the future :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭lefthooker


    Thats probably Sean o Neil in Carlow, good guy.
    (059) 917 9984

    Thanx IQ will give him a shout & sound him out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 629 ✭✭✭thelurcher


    John Greene did two of mine and he does a perfect job.

    I wonder what people's opinions are on the type of thread they should cut for you?
    ½" x20 UNF from what I've read is fine for .22LR and the like but not supposed to be ideal for larger calibers - John said a lot depends on how accurately it's cut and recommended it for my 6.5.
    You just give the T8 a twirl and it locks solid into place - it has never loosened on it's own so he's been correct as far as I'm concerned so far.

    What have people here - when you see the likes of AI using M18x1.5 - is it a better option?


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