CIA Attacks US Government

Brown Bomber

Four men were arrested for attempting to bug the offices of Dem Senator Mary Landrieu's phone system in New Orleans. Landrieu is chair of the Senate Homeland Security Committee.

Current hearings held by the Senate Homeland Security Committee chaired by Landireu, hearings subject to this espionage attack involve:

• Intelligence reform in the aftermath of the Christmas terrorist attack
• Overviews of contracting corruption in Afghanistan
• Planning for securing America’s diplomats around the world
• The Terrorist Reform and Terrorist Prevention Act (IRTPA)
• Investigating the root causes of the Ft. Hood attack
• Securing America from financial crimes
• America’s Defense from Cyber Attack
• Development plans for “post surge” Afghanistan

Current investigations by the Sub-Committee on Investigations are:

• Speculation in trading and how it effects national security
• How US banks help overseas corporation dodge US taxes
• Report on Tax Havens hiding billions from the IRS
• Massive abuses of government credit cards by employees
• Ending “offshore secrecy” to allow the US to recover billions in tax shortfall
• Shell Oil credit card interest abuses
• Medicaid abuse and equipment overcharges
• Billions in unpaid taxes on Medicaid income by American doctors
• Speculation in the energy markets costing American consumers billions a year
• Failures in United Nations reform, waste and corruption
• Speculation and manipulation that controls and rigs crude oil and gasoline markets
• and many many more

9/11

• The Senate HSC is responsible for implementing all intelligence reforms resulting from the findings of the 9/11 commission especially in light of continued failures as demonstrated by the Ft. Hood tragedy and the Detroit terror attack.

Current contracting oversight responsibilities:

• Overseeing all USAID reconstruction contracts in Afghanistan
• Investigating massive corruption tied to the US Embassy in Kabul
• Overseeing all US contractors used in Iraq, Afghanistan and around the world in regard to corrupt practices and cost overruns
• Detecting and Prosecuting Contractor Fraud

One of the four was Stan Dai. He was arrested four blacks away with a listening device in his car.

Here is Dai's bio from the Philips Foundation

STAN DAI, Lisle, Ill., attends The George Washington University majoring in Political Science. He is editor-in-chief of The GW Patriot, an alternative conservative student newspaper, a Club 100 Activist of Young America’s Foundation, and an Undergraduate Fellow on Terrorism of the Foundation for the Defense of the Democracies. He is co-founder of GW’s Students Defending Democracy, a volunteer on several political campaigns, and active in the GW College Republicans and GW Colonials for Life. He was a 2003 Honorable Mention in the U.S. Institute of Peace Essay Contest.

This is from the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies site: http://www.defenddemocracy.org/index.php?option=com_fddbios&Itemid=326
Like one big Zionist/Neo-Con party. Richard Perle, Joe Lieberman, Kristol etc as well as former heads of both the FBI and the CIA.

The FDD runs annual trips to Israel.
http://www.defenddemocracy.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=11777763

Stan Dai was on of these "students"
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-118468342.html

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Here is a brief resume of Stan Dai from a CIA speaking engagement

B. Career History
· Mr. Dai has been involved in JSA since 2001: after attending summer school at
Yale, he founded the JSA chapter at Naperville North, served in various Midwest
region positions, and was a resident assistant at Georgetown.
· Mr. Dai was the first Assistant Director of the Intelligence Community Center of
Academic Excellence at Trinity in D.C.
· Prior to that, he served as the Operations Officer of a Department of Defense irregular warfare fellowship
program.
· Mr. Dai graduated Phi Beta Kappa from the George Washington University. He was the editor-in-chief of The
GW Patriot, an alternative conservative student newspaper, a Club 100 Activist of Young America’s Foundation,
and an Undergraduate Fellow on Terrorism of the Foundation for the Defense of the Democracies

The US Department of Defence defines Irregular Warfare as
IRREGULAR WARFARE is defined as: “A violent struggle among state and
non-state actors for legitimacy and influence over the relevant populations.
http://www.dtic.mil/futurejointwarfare/concepts/iw_joc1_0.pdf

So who do you think Stan Dai was working for?

Brown Bomber

Just thought I'd paste in this full article as things like this have a habit of dissapearing


Article: Teen travels to Israel to study terrorist threats.(Neighbor)

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Byline: Kari Allen Daily Herald Staff Writer
For the past several years, Naperville North graduate Stan Dai has been studying how to combat terrorism.
Next month, he'll leave for Israel to see firsthand how a country deals with this very issue.
"I want to spend two weeks in that country, to know what it feels like," said Dai, a 2003 Naperville North graduate who attends George Washington University.
Dai is among 35 students selected to participate in an undergraduate fellowship program sponsored by the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, a Washington, D.C.-based think tank. The program teaches college students from around the ...
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humanji

I think it's a bit much to say the CIA attacks the US government. From the sounds of it I'd say he's an idealist who took matters into his own hands for what ever reason. It kind of sounds like the student political groups from the 60's, raging against "The Man", only this time around he's on The Man's side.

Do the CIA not have specialists who bug telephones? Surely they wouldn't rely on someone like Dai and his friends?

bonkey

Brown Bomber wrote: »

So who do you think Stan Dai was working for?

I find it odd that you're asking this question in a thread and post which makes a fairly unequivocal claim about who was behind this (and categorises the event as an attack).

Brown Bomber

I could rephrase that to who are the CIA really working for?

Brown Bomber

humanji wrote: »

I think it's a bit much to say the CIA attacks the US government. From the sounds of it I'd say he's an idealist who took matters into his own hands for what ever reason. It kind of sounds like the student political groups from the 60's, raging against "The Man", only this time around he's on The Man's side.

Do the CIA not have specialists who bug telephones? Surely they wouldn't rely on someone like Dai and his friends?

Specialists like the Watergate "plumbers"? Or the operatives in the Bay of Pigs invasion?

humanji

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Specialists like the Watergate "plumbers"? Or the operatives in the Bay of Pigs invasion?

Well, does it make sense to you that they would send them in? I mean, when you look at all the things that the CIA have been involved with and the resources at their command, it couldn't be that difficult to have someone with a proper cover to pretend to be fixing the phones, so if they're questioned, their references would check out. It's a long time since Watergate. Have they not learned a thing or two since then?

mysterious

Brown Bomber wrote: »

I could rephrase that to who are the CIA really working for?

The same 13 bloodlines that have ruled the world since 6,000 to 7,000 years ago. These bloodlines rose to power after 4000 years of slumber due to the ice age shift which made Atlantis and pre ice age civilzations fall. All these bloodlines come from Israel, Egypt and Iraq. Also Basque, Gaelic, Welsh are closely related.

Either way power is all centralized and it always behinds scences. The CIA are above the manistream US government, surely you all know that.

PirateShampoo

mysterious wrote: »

The same 13 bloodlines that have ruled the world since 6,000 to 7,000 years ago. These bloodlines rose to power after 4000 years of slumber due to the ice age shift which made Atlantis and pre ice age civilzations fall. All these bloodlines come from Israel, Egypt and Iraq. Also Basque, Gaelic, Welsh are closely related.

What in the name of Jebus has this got to do with anything being discussed?

Truthrevolution

PirateShampoo wrote: »

What in the name of Jebus has this got to do with anything being discussed?

I dont think the post is that hard to understand.He is saying that the 13 bloodline families which have existed for many years are pulling the strings behind the scenes of organisations such as the CIA.

Rented Mule

Conservative Republican taps Democrats phone ?

Not to hard to figure out who he is working for.

Somewhere Richard Nixon is laughing.

PirateShampoo

Truthrevolution wrote: »

I dont think the post is that hard to understand.He is saying that the 13 bloodline families which have existed for many years are pulling the strings behind the scenes of organisations such as the CIA.

Funny, i didn't see any of that mentioned on the op post.

Can we actually have a Factual discussion without turning it into a Fictional one?

Lab_Mouse

And he is stating it as fact so perhaps he would like to back it up.

So much for the CIA only looking for threats outside the US!Mind you those meetings cover a lot of subjects that people who had to something to cover up would be very interested in intercepting.

FlameoftheWest

I have long believed that the CIA staged a coup in the 1970s and took control of the USA without firing a shot. I think I read something by Noam Chomsky were he said more or less the same. All you have to do is look at USA foreign policy since Vietnam to see this.

It's not longer the USA...its the CIA.

mysterious

PirateShampoo wrote: »

Funny, i didn't see any of that mentioned on the op post.

Can we actually have a Factual discussion without turning it into a Fictional one?

Funny when you like to change everything as fact, yet you don't hand any facts.

The fact is, your incharge of your own, mind and awareness. We apply this to our lives. We certainly don't need to depend on our governments for facts, especially when we are on this forum getting to the very root of the nonsense in our world;)

The only fiction that exist, is the reality you tend to ignore. Fiction is often more real than fact.

George Senior Bush was head of the CIA as well as been president, plenty of evidence suggest hes a hybrid reptilan. But hes obviously not going to hand over his DNA results is he, so whether the "fact" is there or not, we are going to discuss these issues in great lenght and depth, regardless if you feel like speaking over us or not.

Mahatma coat

FlameoftheWest wrote: »

I have long believed that the CIA staged a coup in the 1970s and took control of the USA without firing a shot. I think I read something by Noam Chomsky were he said more or less the same. All you have to do is look at USA foreign policy since Vietnam to see this.

It's not longer the USA...its the CIA.

it was 1963 and they fired a few shots

bonkey

mysterious and pirateshampoo - put a lid on it and stay on-topic please

Undergod

mysterious wrote: »

But hes obviously not going to hand over his DNA results is he

Would you accept them even if he did?

FlameoftheWest wrote: »

I have long believed that the CIA staged a coup in the 1970s and took control of the USA without firing a shot. I think I read something by Noam Chomsky were he said more or less the same. All you have to do is look at USA foreign policy since Vietnam to see this.

It's not longer the USA...its the CIA.

Bob Baer is very interesting on this topic. He discusses how the CIA changed behaviour in the wake of Vietnam, I'll post up or send you the video if you're interested?

Brown Bomber

humanji wrote: »

Well, does it make sense to you that they would send them in? I mean, when you look at all the things that the CIA have been involved with and the resources at their command, it couldn't be that difficult to have someone with a proper cover to pretend to be fixing the phones, so if they're questioned, their references would check out. It's a long time since Watergate. Have they not learned a thing or two since then?

Well that would eliminate the plausable deniability factor should they be caught wouldn't it?

This is the 13 families I think Mysterious is talking about.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bloodlines/index.htm

Brown Bomber

* Intelligence reform in the aftermath of the Christmas terrorist attack - CIA False Flag?
* Overviews of contracting corruption in Afghanistan - USAID = CIA, Ex CIA mercenaries, Afghan military contracts
* Planning for securing America’s diplomats around the world - Info could be used to attack US diplomats and blamed on AL-Qaeda
* The Terrorist Reform and Terrorist Prevention Act (IRTPA) http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=108_cong_public_laws&docid=f:publ458.108
"An Act To reform the intelligence community and the intelligence and intelligence-related activities of the United States Government, and for other purposes. " - Another threat to the CIA
* Investigating the root causes of the Ft. Hood attack - CIA False Flag?
* Development plans for “post surge” Afghanistan - Control of heroin

* Report on Tax Havens hiding billions from the IRS - CIA money laundering
9/11
Quote:

* The Senate HSC is responsible for implementing all intelligence reforms resulting from the findings of the 9/11 commission especially in light of continued failures as demonstrated by the Ft. Hood tragedy and the Detroit terror attack. - CIA False Flag attack?

Current contracting oversight responsibilities:
Quote:

* Overseeing all USAID reconstruction contracts in Afghanistan - Control of heroin
* Investigating massive corruption tied to the US Embassy in Kabul - Heroin, money laundering, military contracts etc

Why would a rabble of neocon jnr's be interested in the above? And furthermore, I counted EIGHT signatories in the FDD (Who share the same values of the LIkud Party) which Dai is connected of PNAC documents.and the chief author of "A clean break" Richard Perle. This are the group who were central to planning of the attacks of 911 in my opinion, and it is they and their bankster financiers like Oppenheimer in NY that gains from the occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan and who's corrup influence in the regions are most at threat by investigations.

humanji

Well, you're assuming that they were trying to bug the office to find out about those things, but there could of been other reasons. You're also assuming the other meaning of all those issues, so it's obviously going to look suspect. But think of it this way:

• Intelligence reform in the aftermath of the Christmas terrorist attack - The intelligence agencies messed up big time and need an overhaul to make them more effective. Possibility of more funding.
• Overviews of contracting corruption in Afghanistan - To be honest, that could mean anything. It could be an investigation into possible corruption of local officials.
• Planning for securing America’s diplomats around the world - America isn't exactly the most loved country in the world. Their diplomats are always in danger. They need to make sure that they are safe.
• The Terrorist Reform and Terrorist Prevention Act (IRTPA) - I'll be honest and say I haven't read the act (and most likely won't get a chance to), but is this just a reform of the current system to make it more affective? Could it lead to intelligence agencies recieving more funding?
• Investigating the root causes of the Ft. Hood attack - A psychiatrist who dealt with soldiers returning from war, freaked out at the thought of being sent to war. Hardly a false flag op. The committee has to work on troop morale and make sure this doesnt' happen again.
• Development plans for “post surge” Afghanistan - Maybe they don't want to jsut leave Afghanistan in the lurch and they're planning on how to help rebuild the country (hey, it's possible).

That's just the first set. It doesn't seem as sinister now, does it? I still believe that if the CIA wanted a tap in the office, there'd be a tap in the office. Sending an undertrained group to do the job is insane. The only reason they would do something like that is if they wanted to paint themselves as incompetent so that they might recieve more money for training. I'd even go so far as to say that it's more likely a group opposed to the CIA and right-wing america that staged the whole thing, than it is for it to be the CIA. the CIA can topple countries. They can bug offices around the world, and they muck up doing this simple job? That doesn't make a lick of sense to me.

mysterious

The CIA dabble into all sorts of stuff unknown to the mainstream public, they test psychic abiliites, brainwashing techniques, Nazi research, Hypnosis, MK ultra, cloning, remote viewing, ESP abilities and they use mind control paitents. How to dumb society down and various others indepth scientific research to make us more like ginnea pigs.

This is only a pee in a sunday dinner of what they do. I don't think our mainstream a la government wouldn't even know have of these words never mind what they are and why the CIA dabble with this stuff.;)

I had an interesting conversation about the CIA today with a man in a shop and it was well worth the coincidence, then again I don't really believe in coincidence meh. We talked about how the CIA basically run the American hegomy. How they stage false flag terrorists attacks and putting puppets into countries to create conflict while the Yanks suck the country dry. A lot I knew already, but it was interesting and refreshing to hear others in the know about this.

The guy gave me a name of a researcher/Remote viewer whos knows people high up in government is friends with the man that owns this shop I went to in Dun Laoighaire. Hes coming over this month for remote viewing classes. I fanyone wants his details and info PM me.

The whole CIA history is so facinatating so it is.

mysterious

humanji wrote: »

• Development plans for “post surge” Afghanistan - Maybe they don't want to jsut leave Afghanistan in the lurch and they're planning on how to help rebuild the country (hey, it's possible).

This is just shocking....

Can i turn what you said around, to our level, and see if you still think this is all helping for an example.
Would it be acceptable for me to invade your house(without your permission) take it over, wreck everything rob you and maybe even kill your family, if they get in the way of my desires and wants.

But hey if I'm the CIA nobody is gonna know.

Am I actually helping? Like your response to the CIA's actions I could find some twisted way of trynig to make it look all great and morally acceptable because I think so?. See how I can bring a world crisis situation home to your door in a flash.

I find it very concerning you would even say the CIA are helping the situation knowing their history, in their very bad record on liability, trust and truth. The CIA are an intellegence agency who feel they have the right to invade anyones life or privacy if they so choose to. That is not acceptable. They are responsible for millions of people dead around the world and also the main player behind scenes staging wars.

So no Humanji, in reality they are NOT helping anything.

I certainly don't think its helping god only knows how many thousands of people are now dead in this again bull**** war. God only knows how many millions are now suffering the loss of their loved ones.

humanji

mysterious wrote: »

This is just shocking....

Can i turn what you said around, to our level, and see if you still think this is all helping for an example.
Would it be acceptable for me to invade your house(without your permission) take it over, wreck everything rob you and maybe even kill your family, if they get in the way of my desires and wants.

But hey if I'm the CIA nobody is gonna know.

Am I actually helping? Like your response to the CIA's actions I could find some twisted way of trynig to make it look all great and morally acceptable because I think so?. See how I can bring a world crisis situation home to your door in a flash.

I find it very concerning you would even say the CIA are helping the situation knowing their history, in their very bad record on liability, trust and truth. The CIA are an intellegence agency who feel they have the right to invade anyones life or privacy if they so choose to. That is not acceptable. They are responsible for millions of people dead around the world and also the main player behind scenes staging wars.

So no Humanji, in reality they are NOT helping anything.

I certainly don't think its helping god only knows how many thousands of people are now dead in this again bull**** war. God only knows how many millions are now suffering the loss of their loved ones.

Well thanks for reading one line of my post and completely missing the point. Brown Bomber listed some of the topics covered by the commitee. After each he gave a possible meaning to them. I did exactly the same thing, but gave them a different, yet still plausible, meaning.

My point is that all we have is a list of topics. We're just putting our own interpretation on them. Either of us could be right, but we don't know for sure. Now, although the topics could be of concern for the CIA, if they were of that much concern, they'd of gotten a professional to do the job, not a bunch of kids.

bonkey

If it was the CIA bugging the government, then that requires that there's at least two factions involved.

Makes a refreshing change from anything in a governmental/federal position being lumped together as all part of the same overarching NWO.

mcmoustache

Truthrevolution wrote: »

I dont think the post is that hard to understand.He is saying that the 13 bloodline families which have existed for many years are pulling the strings behind the scenes of organisations such as the CIA.

Oh for fúck's sake! There is conspiracy worth discussing here and this new-age shíte is just a useless distraction. I'm starting to be convinced that the CIA invented all that lizard/bloodline pseudo-scientific rubbish to stop the light being shone on them. Seriously. Most CT websites these days are so busy creating a world to rival Tolkien's that none of the posters can be arsed discussing the facts of the conspiracies and cover-ups.

Grrrrr *headbutts keyboard*

Truthrevolution

mcmoustache wrote: »

Oh for fúck's sake! There is conspiracy worth discussing here and this new-age shíte is just a useless distraction. I'm starting to be convinced that the CIA invented all that lizard/bloodline pseudo-scientific rubbish to stop the light being shone on them. Seriously. Most CT websites these days are so busy creating a world to rival Tolkien's that none of the posters can be arsed discussing the facts of the conspiracies and cover-ups.

Grrrrr *headbutts keyboard*

Ok im goin to clear a few things up here.For some reason a lot of people think i believe in reptilians/lizzards which i really dont.I also have my doubts about the whole bloodline thing aswell.I do know however that there are a few extremely powerful families controlling things on a global scale (banking institutions, multi-national corporations, health councils, enviromental movements) and these people do not have our best interests at heart.They may be powerful but i seriously doubt they have special reptile/alien powers.I only believe in things that can be backed up and that i can see real evidence of.

Undergod

bonkey wrote: »

If it was the CIA bugging the government, then that requires that there's at least two factions involved.

Makes a refreshing change from anything in a governmental/federal position being lumped together as all part of the same overarching NWO.

Thank you. This is what I've said all along about the NWO theories. There will be too many different factions and people vying for personal gain for an NWO, if one existed, to work.

Dirty Dave

This was covered on the Daily show with Jon Stewart. The ringleader of the group had appeared on chat shows before this as he had done an "undercover" video thing about prostitutes getting dodgy tax advice from a government citizens advice agency of some sort. There were complaints that some of the video he presented was doctored in some way, though from what I saw it looked real enough. He appeared on a Fox news chat show dressed as a pimp. He wasn't the guy mentioned earlier in the thread. It seems they were some group of young, radical, attention seeking, media savvy republicans. I think they were more targeting the Democrat politician than what she was working on. If they really were CIA operatives, I doubt they would have showcased videos of themselves on Fox news before trying an undercover operation on a politician.