Cell Phones Cause Brain Cancer, Scientists Warn.

Run_to_da_hills

Scientists predict an avalanche of brain cancer cases in the future. Why not with the amount of school children using these devices and the amount of free unlimited call packages offered by service providers.

While Governments are busy enforcing nanny state legislation like driving at 18 miles an hour across the city or shutting off sales after 10pm they are escaping the big one.

Government warnings should be placed on the packaging of these devices so at least that parents that are foolish enough to hand them out to young kids can be informed that they will fry their developing brains in time to come. :eek:



http://www.naturalnews.com/028078_cell_phones_brain_cancer.html

Kippure

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Scientists predict an avalanche of brain cancer cases in the future. Why not with the amount of school children using these devices and the amount of free unlimited call packages offered by service providers.

While Governments are busy enforcing nanny state legislation like driving at 18 miles an hour across the city or shutting off sales after 10pm they are escaping the big one.

Government warnings should be placed on the packaging of these devices so at least that parents that are foolish enough to hand them out to young kids can be informed that they will fry their developing brains in time to come. :eek:



http://www.naturalnews.com/028078_cell_phones_brain_cancer.html

Any one who has done electricial engineering will know that mobile phones are lethal.

Electro-Magnetic Frequency (EMF) is the measure of radiation that comes from a cell phone, cordless phone, computer, hair dryer, microwave oven, automobile, or other electrical appliances. Cell phones emit the same form of radiation as microwave ovens-just in smaller dosages. While no one would ever consider sticking their heads inside a microwave oven, every time you hold a cell phone up to your ear you are bombarding your head with microwave radiation!

Torakx

Nice topic.
Little bit of scaremonger in there too hehe but i agree that its something people should be thinking about more seriously then most appear to.
I often get a burning pain in the side of my head any time i start using a mobile phone to talk, so i tend to not use it much at all.
I do worry about the effects of all this technology down the line.

bonkey

Kippure wrote: »

Electro-Magnetic Frequency (EMF) is the measure of radiation that comes from a cell phone, cordless phone, computer, hair dryer, microwave oven, automobile, or other electrical appliances.

Frequency is exactly what it says...a frequency....the number of oscillations per second, in the case of electro-magnetism.It is not a measure of radiation in any meaningful sense.

Cell phones emit the same form of radiation as microwave ovens-just in smaller dosages.

If by "same form" you mean "electromagnetic", then its true. Cell-phones, cordless phones, computers, hair dryers, automobiles, the sun, and countless other things all emit this form of radiation.

If by "form" you mean that its the same frequency, and that only the power is different, then not only would you be wrong, but you'd also be missing the point that power is where the problem lies.

Think of it like this...if you go out on a really hot, sunny day, you'll get sunburned quite quickly. Go out on a cloudy, rainy day, and you won't. Why not? Its not that the type of radiation has changed, its that the power is lower.

Similarly...if you were to get a jolt from mains power...it could kill you. On other other hand, if you get zapped from AC current that's at low wattage, you mighn't even notice it. Again, the only difference is the power.

every time you hold a cell phone up to your ear you are bombarding your head with microwave radiation!

Even when you're not holding it up to your ear, you're being bombarded with microwave radiation....from the sun and countless other sources. Amazingly, this hasn't killed mankind off before we even began...which should only lead to the same conclusion I've already been pointing out...namely that radiation frequency isn't the issue, power is.

seamus

The report in question was issued by a group called the "International Electromagnetic Field Collaborative", a group for whom no information is available, and who have never issued any other form of study about any topic to do with electromagnetic fields.

That alone of course, isn't enough to write them off, but you also need to look at the list of 43 "scientists" who endorsed it. Most of them are "scientists", in that they have a degree in a scientific discipline, but that doesn't mean they have any qualifications to endorse this study.

Of course, some of these people have dubious or undiscolsed qualifications.
Take this guy:

Joe Foster, 29 year member of the International Association of Fire Fighters

Seems like a real scientist to me... :rolleyes:
Or this guy, one of our very own

Senator Mark Daly, National Parliament, Republic of Ireland

Daly is an estate agent with zero qualifications to assess the report.

So straight away, before we even read it, we have good reason to cast doubts on the rigourousness of this scientfic report.

The report is here if anyone wants to go through it, I don't have time:
http://www.radiationresearch.org/pdfs/reasons_a4.pdf

Torakx

Thats quite interesting.
It seems i get a burning sensation without any burn.
What is it that causes pain in the side of my head when i use the phone? i dont get this sensation on landlines.
Even if i switch to the other side i get a burning painful feeling very uncomfortable and i have to switch sides every 30 seconds or it hurts too much.
This feeling has always ment to me that the frequency of the phone signal was causing the burning.If it isnt then what is burning the side of my head while i use a mobile?

bonkey

I'd like to point at the bit in the charter which says:

don't give/request medical or professional advice

You're experiencing symptoms which are considered atypical for a mobile phone. If you want answers, ask a professional, not an anonymous group of strangers on an internet forum.

Torakx

Not sure how to rephrase that. I wasnt asking for any medical advice.
I was more asking why do phones give me that effect if it isnt radiation?
Hope that clears it up a bit what i ment.

I dont consider the issue to be a medical problem for me as i can just not use mobiles.However we are dicussing radiation from mobiles,
So id like that question of other peoples oppinions(not medical oppinion or professional in any way) to stand if i may.

seamus

Torakx wrote: »

I dont consider the issue to be a medical problem for me as i can just not use mobiles.However we are dicussing radiation from mobiles,
So id like that question of other peoples oppinions(not medical oppinion or professional in any way) to stand if i may.

Well you see it could be any number of things. I don't doubt that you feel a burning sensation, but since as bonkey says, it's atypical for cellphone use, then you assume initially that the cellphone itself is not causing the problem, instead it's more likely the way you're using the phone that causes this problem. It could be an ergonomics issue: You'll generally hold a mobile phone at an odd angle to your ear in order to hear from the smaller speaker, and in high-noise environments, where mobiles are commonly used, you will hold the phone higher up your ear, and closer (i.e. with more pressure) in order to hear.

A landline by contrast is more ergonomic, has a louder/better speaker and is rarely held firmly pressed against the ear because they're used in quiet environments.

There's also the possibility that this could be a psychosomatic or muscular reaction to the presence of the mobile: You're unconsciously flexing facial muscles in response to the phone, causing a build-up of lactic acid and a burning sensation.

The possible explanations are endless, but it's unlikely to be caused by the transmissions from the phone itself.

Torakx

Well i dont see it as a medical problem because the pain is not there when i dont use a mobile phone.
when i last had a landline it was very quiet as appose to my mobiles over the years.i would always hold a landline close to my ear but a mobile i only need to keep it about 20-150 mm away from my head before i start feeling burning.
I tend to end up moving the phone far away from my ear mid convo and then switching it but the effect is still felt within hearing range.

Once again im not looking for any advice.
i just want to note that the only time i feel a burning sensation is using a mobile phone and held away from my head.
So that leaves me with physical head,mind and phone as the cause of that.
since my head doesnt get this effect without a mobile phone( plus it only happens on the same side as the phone) i guess that leaves mind or phone.
I dont see why it isnt the phone that is causing this.
Maybe i should go to the psychology forum with this in mind to ask is this likely to occur in a person,then report back here on that part.

seamus

I didn't say it wasn't the phone, to be fair on me

I said the phone was least likely cause, because such an effect has never been clinically demostrated or reported in regards to phones.

I wouldn't discount the possibility that there is as yet an undocumented case in some individuals where close-range low-power electromagentic emissions cause muscle spasms or other effects which can be described as burning or tingling sensations.

There is also a second possible cause; Magnetic fields. The battery in a mobile phone or cordless landline contains a battery which has its own small magnetic field. That could similarly be inducing undocumented effects on the body.

However, since the western world is both the home of ubiquitous mobile use and the most modern medicine/science institutions, that any such cases have not been documented and reported, suggests that either these people never go to the doctor and report these things, or more likely, that a separate cause or remedy is found in these cases.

If you actually want to know, I suggest you go to a medical professional who may be able to help you with this and then you can enjoy years of happy mobile use.

My point actually above is to illustrate the vast possible causes of the effect that you're feeling. One key aspect of looking at something objectively is to separate correlation from causation - just because two things happen at the same time, doesn't mean that one is caused by the other.

For example, to accurately test your condition, you take something which emits EM radition at the same power & frequency as a mobile and place it in a small black box. Then you take an identical small black box but without the EM emissions. Then you have someone hold each box in turn close to your ear without telling you which is which and record the results. And do this over and over again to get reliable data.

amacachi

seamus wrote: »

Seems like a real scientist to me... :rolleyes:
Or this guy, one of our very ownDaly is an estate agent with zero qualifications to assess the report.

Perhaps there's a proposal for a mast somewhere that wouldn't suit his business?


On the plus side, apparently using cell phones can lead to a lower chance of Alzheimer's and can even reverse some of its effects. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/01/100106-cell-phones-alzheimers-disease-mice.html

Torakx

Quote
" One is that the microwaves create cellular stress in the brain, and that the stress jump-starts DNA repair mechanisms in the brain."

This was a theory by one of the scientists involved.

Why would micro waves cause cellular stress in the brain?
And if so what damage is done that it kick starts dna repair.
Maybe prolonged cellular stress can lead to cancer?

bonkey

On review...there's no attempt at discussing a conspiracy theory here....neither in the OP nor in subsequent posts.

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