Duddy vs. Medina on Pacquiao-Clottey undercard at Dallas Cowboy stadium

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February 1st, 2010
By Jim Dower

Middleweight contender John Duddy (28-1, 18 KO’s) will be getting a prime visibility fight by facing light middleweight contender Michael Medina (22-1, 17 KO’s) on the undercard of the Manny Pacquiao vs. Joshua Clottey WBO welterweight title fight on March 13th at the Dallas Cowboy stadium, in Arlington, Texas. Duddy, 30, is being given a golden opportunity to show off his talent in front of a huge crowd and likely in front of a large pay-per-view audience as well who will be turning in to see the Pacquiao-Clottey fight.

Duddy, ranked #12 in the World Boxing Organization middleweight division has been brought at a glacial pace during his seven year pro career and very carefully matched. Duddy was unbeaten up until last year, when he was beaten by fringe contender Billy Lyell by a 10 round decision in April. Duddy’s lack of defense betrayed him in that fight as he took countless right hands to the head from Lyell in that fight and make him look like a champion in the process instead of just a fringe contender. That loss wiped out pretty much any chance for Duddy to get a title shot against WBO middleweight champion Kelly Pavlik. Duddy similarly missed out on a big payday against Pavlik in 2008 after getting his face torn apart by the tough Canadian based slugger Walid Smichet in February 2008. Duddy had extensive stitches put in his face from the numerous cuts that Smichet opened up on Duddy’s face in that fight. Although Duddy won the fight by a 10 round majority decision, he might as well have lost it because he looked poor against a B level fighter and ended up missing out on a shot against Pavlik.
Since the Smichet fight, Duddy has continued to fight B level opposition, beating Charles Howe, Matt Vanda, Lyell, Michi Munoz and Juan Astorga. Duddy looked perhaps the best I’ve ever seen him in his last fight, a 1st round stoppage win over Astorga on January 23rd. Duddy put Astorga down two times and looked powerful in stopping him. However, it’s hard to tell how much improvement that Duddy has made because Astorga wasn’t a good test for Duddy to really determine how much he’s progressed as a fighter.
Medina, 23, is ranked number #13 in the WBC light middleweight division and has an impressive record. However, most of Medina’s wins have come against 2nd tier opposition as well. This will be good test for him as well to see if he’s as good as his record.
An argument could be made that a more deserving fighter should be on the undercard of the Pacquiao-Clottey fight than Duddy. Few people see Duddy as ever being capable of winning a title in the middleweight or the light middleweight divisions.

Wild_Dogger

Great ! .... although I dont know much about Medina , I will hope Duddy gets tv time on this card !

barney4001

Duddy like Andy Lee is going nowhere in world titles, just maybe europeon boxing

Dirty whore!

barney4001 wrote: »

Duddy like Andy Lee is going nowhere in world titles, just maybe europeon boxing

I think you maybe right but you cant tell just yet, they might get lucky like bernard dunne and get a voluntary because like bernard they are both seen as easy touches right now.

jjm

Not much chatter about it but this fight is on this weekend. Don't know much about Medina other than hes never been stopped although not sure about the quality of the opposition. Duddy should have a good size advantage.

Hopefully they get televised and have a good scrap with Duddy getting an impressive knockout leading to a title shot in the near future. I feel like John needs to go for a title of some form now and make some dosh .... seems like a very nice guy would like to see him succeed.

deisedelight

hi guys
i,m a previous member of the boxing forum "mikethemouth" but have not posted since boards was hacked because i could not access my previous email address which was registered with boards. walshb will be able to confirm my authenticty i hope.

anyway i have a request regarding the pacman v clottey fight
i have no access to sky for this fight and want to see thw whole event including the undercard for johns fight and soto v diaz.

Is there anyone in the boxing community on boards here that would be willing to make a torrent of the fight night or a recording of the fight night.
Wierd request i know but feedback would be greatly appreciated by a genuine boxing fan. thanks all

p.s sorry walshb if i,m goin off topic on the thread but because i,m a "new"user i can not create my own thread for this unusual request.

joepenguin

deisedelight wrote: »

i have no access to sky for this fight and want to see thw whole event including the undercard for johns fight and soto v diaz.

Is there anyone in the boxing community on boards here that would be willing to make a torrent of the fight night or a recording of the fight night.

I am looking for a stream myself and i figure there will be a lot of people in the same boat so I started a thread and included your request in it.

Hopefully something will spring up.

JonathanAnon

Should be easy enough since it's on the Pacquiao undercard. I'll be searching anyway.

Jayob10

come on johh do us proud!

walshb

Duddy wobbled badly at the end of the 7th

x PyRo

Not looking to impressive, you'd think he'd work on his defense by now.

JonathanAnon

x PyRo wrote: »

Not looking to impressive, you'd think he'd work on his defense by now.

That's the one thing I could never understand.. EVERY fight is like a Rocky fight.. just hope he doesnt suffer in later life from all those punches..

great stream btw Pyro.. the only one that worked out of all the ones posted.. ;-)

Jayob10

x PyRo wrote: »

Not looking to impressive, you'd think he'd work on his defense by now.

he can have the best coach in the world but at the end of the day he doesnt have the fight intelligence, he just seems to revert to type. Personally i think he should just focus on being the best brawler he can be and get his one shot at the title if loses then get outta the game.
Great chin.

Jayob10

interesting judging already

dunno what to make of that. John wasn't impressive but had him winning that by 3-4 rounds to be honest.

x PyRo

Jayob10 wrote: »

he can have the best coach in the world but at the end of the day he doesnt have the fight intelligence, he just seems to revert to type. Personally i think he should just focus on being the best brawler he can be and get his one shot at the title if loses then get outta the game.
Great chin.

Lucky he has the chin or he'd be fecked!. I love watching him and he's a nice guy but really need to improve on certain aspects of his game if he intends to reach the level he wants to.

How did one of the judges have it 96-93 to Medina ?. Daft.

Well done to Duddy, not a performance that would justify him getting as world title fight anytime soon though.

No problemo Jonathan.

JonathanAnon

x PyRo wrote: »

Lucky he has the chin or he'd be fecked!.

He has an amazing chin though really... you could batter him all day long and he would still come back at you...

Castillo should have hung up the gloves after the Hatton fight.. :-(

Devastator

well Duddy got the win, even if didn't look impressive.

Unfortunatly can't see him as a world title holder.

walshb

I admire Duddy's toughness and chin, but there is nothing else to get
excited about. He's too slow, open and methodical. McCrory saying "he deserves a world title shot"?

Hey, he's Irish and I'd like to see him doing well, but NO, he does not deserve
a world title shot. He is not world class. I really think he has gone backwards.

Him in with Lee or Macklin would be much better than in vs. Pavlik. He'd be badly badly hurt vs. Pavlik.

Going on tonight I would fancy Lee to box the ears off Duddy, as long as Lee
can go ten rds.

Devastator

walshb wrote: »

McCrory saying "he deserves a world title shot"?

adopted "home" fighter syndrome?

If he fights for world title(or wins) he'll be the british fighter....or when he gets beat(or losing) he'll suddenly be the Irish fighter. Happens all the time with wanky british media :rolleyes:


edit - that BTW is not just people from here, heard it so many times with Scottish & Welsh sportsmen also.

walshb

Devastator wrote: »

adopted "home" fighter syndrome?

If he fights for world title(or wins) he'll be the british fighter....or when he gets beat(or losing) he'll suddenly be the Irish fighter. Happens all the time with wanky british media :rolleyes:


edit - that BTW is not just people from here, heard it so many times with Scottish & Welsh sportsmen also.

I think with Duddy it is a little different. The guy wants so to be known as Duddy from Derry, Ireland, just as Buffer announced it tonight.

So, that should make it a wee bit harder for the British to claim anything.

To compare, Barry was quite easy going about it when he won his title in 1985; Duddy won't be like that. Though, more because he ain't gonna' win a
title:)

Devastator

Michael Buffer's a yank though, so he ain't gonna know nothing about what commentators say.

I was only couple years old with McGuigan when your talking about, although I have heard similar stories, but as I said it involves others(Scots and Welsh) and other sports. Its just their mentality, try to cling to any credit they can!


Can't wait to hear jackie full(of sh*t)erton comment on Antrim winning the All Ireland and saying a british team won :eek::D (obvious )

Dirty whore!

Was really disappointed with duddy tonight especially after his previous tko win. If we are completely honest here he dosent beat anyone in the top 10 at 160lbs nor does he beat the weakest champ sylvester, the guy would jab the **** out of duddy.He hasnt improved whatsoever and any real snap in his punches has completely gone and still so easy to hit even for the ****test of journeymen.Its painful for me to think of him in with pavlik, or sturm.I hope he gets a payday without suffering a fight with the likes of pavlik.

Big Ears

walshb wrote: »

I admire Duddy's toughness and chin, but there is nothing else to get
excited about. He's too slow, open and methodical. McCrory saying "he deserves a world title shot"?

Hey, he's Irish and I'd like to see him doing well, but NO, he does not deserve
a world title shot. He is not world class. I really think he has gone backwards.

Him in with Lee or Macklin would be much better than in vs. Pavlik. He'd be badly badly hurt vs. Pavlik.

Going on tonight I would fancy Lee to box the ears off Duddy, as long as Lee
can go ten rds.

To copy some of a post of mine on John Duddy 6 weeks ago on another forum:

Fighters will always get opportunities beyond their quality if they are exciting e.g. Arturo Gatti.

You might say he doesn't deserve a title shot, however guys like Koji Sato, Randy Griffin, Jamie Pittman, Noe Alcoba, Maselino Masoe, Evans Ashira, Emannuele Della Rosa, Sebastien Zbik, Miguel Espino, Marco Antonio Rubio, Gary Lockett, Kassim Ouma, Billy Lyell, Wayne Elcock, Mahir Oral, Elvin Ayala, Sebastien Demers, Lajuan Simon, Shannon Taylor, Raul Marquez, Giovanni Lorenzo all received title shots in the last few years. Pablo Nasvascues was going to have one aswell but failed his drugs test.

When you considering that's the quality of guys getting shots, that it's ridiculous to put Duddy in the same class ?
I certainly don't, I don't think he looks out of place among those fighters at all, infact he'd beat a lot of them.

I'd give him a very good chance at beating the shot Roman Karmazin who's Sylvester's next mandatory aswell. Karmazin's punch resistance is gone, and he's not the biggest Middleweight either.

I don't think there's anything wrong with mentioning John Duddy possibly getting a title shot in the near future. Winning one is another proposition altogether, but I'm quite confident he'd give Pavlik a better fight than Lockett, Rubio or Espino did.


Duddy would indeed get destroyed by Pavlik, and last night he wasn't very impressive imo. Infact considering John's age it is possible he has started to decline physically, his stamina seemed unusually poor last night, where as in the past he'd always be able to work at a pace throughout the 10/12 rounds, this time it seemed him 'boxing smarter' was to give him a breather allowing him to actually make it to the end.

I think Duddy has regressed anyway, and I'm quite disappointed about it, but hopefully this performance was just down to a touch of cold, and trying to 'box smart', because when he's in against the top guys there's no point in him trying to box smart. He should do the same thing Espino tried to do with Pavlik and pray that he'll have enough to out tough them.

walshb

Big, maybe a few years ago Duddy was exciting, but last night was
as far from exciting as you could get. There was no spark or zip whatsoever.
He really looked average. And, I said, as you are saying, he is going backwards.

World Title? Okay, if the standards are that poor, so be it....

BTW, the key word is deserving. These lads are getting shots, that
doesn't mean they deserve them. Duddy is not a deserving world title challenger.

joepenguin

Most people who get world title shots arent "deserving" if we go by these standards. If any champion was number one in his division and constantly fought the number 2,3 and 4 he would be hailed as some kind of super fighter.

Pac, agrueably the world #1 fighter faces a guy coming off a loss to a guy pac beat convincingly.

Vitali Klitschko was desperate to get Valuev in the ring, who was coming off a loss to Haye.

Pavlik is about to fight Martinez who is coming off a loss to Williams.

Hopkins is fighting Jones (no world title at stake) after he lost to Green in a round.

Haye is fighting Ruiz even though he hasnt won a fight of significance in years.

Sylvester fought Lyle for the ibf title.

Fights are made for many reasons in pro boxing. Its not as honest as amateur boxing where 99 times out of 100 you have to beat the best to be the best.