3D tv

Mr sinister

Sky Sports will broadcast todays game between Arsenal and United to 9 pubs across England in 3D, and will release their own dedicated 3D station in April

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/jan/28/arsenal-manchester-united-3d-television

The future of television?

Agricola

Im delighted. Maybe now they've moved onto their next money making gimmick, they will take the €15 subscription charge of the HD package. Only then will I get a HD box.

Mr sinister

I just can't wait to head down to the pub with me 3D glasses

I don't think it's as much of a gimmick as HD though, 3D adds much more than HD to the visual experience. Although what sport will look like I don't know

PCPhoto

I have to goto the only pub in Ireland to show the game in 3d and photo people watching the game ..... should be funny.

will prob sell 3D glasses at the door (€10 or more) .... I have a couple of pairs of 3D glasses at home ...lol...might bring them along.

Agricola

I heard there was only 7 pubs in the whole of Ireland and the UK that will show the match in 3d. If you manage to see it, let us know what its like.

I have a feeling if your expecting a football match with Avatar type effects you'll be disappointed. I imagine alot of the tricks of 3d are down to heavily processed and choreographed set-pieces that bring out the effect to the full. In a live sports event id say it will be alot more toned down.

Hopefully not though.

Richard Dower

What fottie fan wants to see a match in 3D...i mean really!

Mr sinister

Yeah that's the thing I'm confused about, how they will do live broadcasting in 3D and it look really good

eh, I would

Mr sinister

PCPhoto wrote: »

I have to goto the only pub in Ireland to show the game in 3d and photo people watching the game ..... should be funny.

No chance it's not in qbar and really in a pub in Navan?

Minstrel27

PCPhoto wrote: »

will prob sell 3D glasses at the door (€10 or more) .... I have a couple of pairs of 3D glasses at home ...lol...might bring them along.

They wouldn't work.

Mr sinister

Minstrel27 wrote: »

They wouldn't work.

Might do, depends on what kinda glasses they are using and he has

robby^5

Future of Television? I hope so BUT not exclusively as I want to see HD keep progressing. I don't know if I'd want to watch everything in 3D as it might ruin the impact of the effect, but I'd definitely love the option. I could see myself watching a lot of SciFi in 3D but not a lot of the news in 3D.

PCPhoto

well...its great !!!

it kinda makes the wide shot during a game look a bit cartoony....but when its close up it brilliant ....my fav was when players were running out of the tunnel.... feels like they are running past you.

dunno if its the future of TV - unless you regularly watch tv with glasses....kinda makes it pointless...its definately gimmicky and worth experiencing.... Sky Sports 3D !!!


/runs off to invest in 3D shares

The Oggmonster

Can you tell us where the match was shown in 3D?

Exclamation Marc

Fagans.

http://www.sportsnewsireland.com/?p=5906

PCPhoto

fagans

EDIT: Beaten to it

Our man in Havana

PCPhoto wrote: »

fagans

EDIT: Beaten to it

The glasses are different from the cinema glasses. They are particular to the type of TV used by the venue.

I think it is all a big gimmick and will cause a lot of punters to get headaches.

Exclamation Marc

Bond-007 wrote: »

The glasses are different from the cinema glasses. They are particular to the type of TV used by the venue.

I think it is all a big gimmick and will cause a lot of punters to get headaches.

Are you sure? Because when Sky were doing their 3D punter zoom in, they were all wearing glasses with Real-D on the side of them, which are the glasses I've received numerous times in the cinema.

BaZmO*

Mr sinister wrote: »

I don't think it's as much of a gimmick as HD though, 3D adds much more than HD to the visual experience. Although what sport will look like I don't know

HD isn't a gimmick. It's a higher resolution picture which is always gonna be better than what's currently standard.

Asmodean

As was said before 3D=gimmick. Just all the electronic companies jumping on the bandwagon with the major 3D cinema releases of the last year or so. This 3D home technology will be dead in the water soon enough. Besides I don't think people understand the immense cost with purchasing one of these home setups.

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/01/3d-tv-gallery/

Estimates of 100-300 Dollars PER set of glasses, so you're looking at shelling out around a grand if you want everyone in your family watching the proper picture. Thats not even taking into account the TV itself and the 3D blu-ray player.

zaphood316

Asmodean wrote: »

As was said before 3D=gimmick. Just all the electronic companies jumping on the bandwagon with the major 3D cinema releases of the last year or so. This 3D home technology will be dead in the water soon enough. Besides I don't think people understand the immense cost with purchasing one of these home setups.

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/01/3d-tv-gallery/

Estimates of 100-300 Dollars PER set of glasses, so you're looking at shelling out around a grand if you want everyone in your family watching the proper picture. Thats not even taking into account the TV itself and the 3D blu-ray player.

Lol, I can only think that you've never seen a 3d tv in action m8. This tech is here to stay, hold judgement on it till after you've expreience it.

My m8 works in Sky, so I was watching the man u game in a pub in North london, The screen was a LG 47" and excleent quality. I was standing about 30ft back and the 3d was still quite good. optimum viewing distand being about 2-4 meters.

100-300 dollars is only for active shutter glasses. its 80p for passive polarised glasses.

LG 3D Tvs won't be much more expensive than current HDs are. And with samsung announcing mass production of 3d tvs the price competion is sure to make them affordable quite soon.

ScumLord

Mr sinister wrote: »

I just can't wait to head down to the pub with me 3D glasses

I don't think it's as much of a gimmick as HD though, 3D adds much more than HD to the visual experience. Although what sport will look like I don't know

HD isn't a gimmick, it's more of a natural progression.

Elmo

Anyone get to see the match?

Asmodean

100-300 dollars is only for active shutter glasses. its 80p for passive polarised glasses.

True but with the passive glasses you're only getting roughly half of the definition/contrast that you would with the active glasses so you're already paying for half of the quality that the machines can output unless you shell out for the active variety.

Also due to the 'Active' quality of the glasses i.e basically glasses that have LCDs in each eye, and turn black every other frame ; people have been repoting headaches and migraines due to the fact that their eyes can't adjust to the image rapidly enough.

The screen was a LG 47"

Hit the nail on the head there perfectly. The 3D image is only going to be of decent quality if it's displayed on a very large screen ( Hence why it's so good in the cinema) which will be expensive to say the least upon release. The current TV 3D definiton is only about half that of current HD due to the fact that the television networks have to degrade the signal slightly so that it can operate within current bandwidth parameters.

I can see the tech footing ground in pub based environments perhaps but it's a long, long way off from being feasible or affordable for home use. Factor in that each TV's glasses will work only with that specific television set and you have a few more problems to contend with.

The 3D matches shown on sky are experimental at this stage so it could very well be a long way from being rolled out with any degree of dependancy. Maybe the one positive for owners of PS3 is that following a firmware upgrade in the future all PS3's will be able to display Blu-ray 3D format.

Ri_Nollaig

Can the 3D effect be created without the need for the glasses?
I personally can not see it ever taking off if they are expecting people to watch while wearing glasses the whole time (or ontop of their existing if they already wear glasses).

Sam Russell

How is 3D broadcast? Is it a seperate signal as in FM Stereo, where the stereo is sent as a difference signal?
Or do they just broadcast the 3d image and send the glasses in the post?

In other words, could I turn off the 3D effect?

zilog_jones

Sam Russell wrote: »

How is 3D broadcast? Is it a seperate signal as in FM Stereo, where the stereo is sent as a difference signal?

I assume these 3D demonstrations were broadcast on a separate special channel (hidden to normal Sky users). There would be too much processing involved in making a difference signal for HD video - I don't know if any of the 3D footage is useable for 2D anyway. Did they use separate cameras for the 2D broadcasts?

Ri_Nollaig wrote: »

Can the 3D effect be created without the need for the glasses?

Not in a way that wouldn't involve a very deep screen (probably ludicrously expensive too). There's also the issue that 3D perception will change whenever you move your head (RealD glasses avoid this by using circular polarization).

Minstrel27

zilog_jones wrote: »

I assume these 3D demonstrations were broadcast on a separate special channel (hidden to normal Sky users). There would be too much processing involved in making a difference signal for HD video - I don't know if any of the 3D footage is useable for 2D anyway. Did they use separate cameras for the 2D broadcasts?

Separate everything. Even different commentators.

Sam Russell

So 3D television requires a completely different channel. It is not part of the HD signal. Is that right?

It cannot become mainstream. Many people will not be able to see it, and it will require extra channels. At least HD can be seen by the myopic.

slegs

This is going to be like when mobile companies thought MMS/Picture Messaging was going to be huge following the success of SMS. Its just not a natural progression from the killer application that SMS texting became. They completely over sold it and overestimated the potential.

People can see and want the benefit of HD over SD TV but 3D is a niche gimmicky service at best. I thought it was great in the cinema but I have no wish to see 3D on my TV. Friends of mine were even underwhelmed by 3D in the cinema. Just cant see it ever catching on in anythng other than small numbers.

Exclamation Marc

I have to say that 3d does have amazing visuals at certain points. The problem with it is, is that in a high pace sport, it's impossible to take in the visuals. 3d looks great on slow-mo replays, or on team line-ups, but in the flow of a game, it's very very tough to process the 3d-ness of it when your eyes are racing back and forth.