importing a high cost gbb

pump · 30-01-2010 8:18pm #1

Hi lads im seriously thinking about buying a inokatsu M4 sopmod gbb, I know there expensive to buy and run.
The question is can I bring it in myself with “the ban” is it 100% in? is it enforced???
I would be buying it from the uncompany.com if the ban is enforced and law what irish retailer will import it for me and how much would they want to do it??

hobby airsoft i would be thinking about using if i hafto go that way

Shiva · 30-01-2010 8:22pm

pump wrote: »

Hi lads im seriously thinking about buying a inokatsu M4 sopmod gbb, I know there expensive to buy and run.
The question is can I bring it in myself with “the ban” is it 100% in? is it enforced???
I would be buying it from the uncompany.com if the ban is enforced and law what irish retailer will import it for me and how much would they rip me off ??

hobby airsoft i would be thinking about using if i hafto go that way

That sort of bull**** isnt going to do you any favours anyway.
I say go for it....import it yourself.

Not trying to do Richard and the guys out of a sale, but if your attitude to them making a profit, and actually making it worth their while to run an airsoft business, is that they're ripping you off, you deserve to have to do it yourself.

Good luck with it.

pump · 30-01-2010 8:24pm

what bull**** ??

Shiva wrote: »

That sort of bull**** isnt going to do you any favours anyway.
I say go for it....import it yourself.

Flecktarn · 30-01-2010 8:26pm

pump wrote: »

what bull**** ??

The bull that you claim Irish retailers ripping you off.

Leftyflip · 30-01-2010 8:30pm

I've never found an Irish retailer a rip off I've crunched the numbers, most of the time it ends up costing less. As for saying that they do on an open forum, well that was a bad idea.

Puding · 30-01-2010 8:31pm

the bill is in place but at the moment the personal import ban is not being enforced, be aware you importing an extremely realistic replica that looks inside and out like the real thing to many so expect a lay over with customer if you do import it your, and also do not forget to add around 25% for of the total value including shipping for duty/vat/admin charges

Masada · 30-01-2010 8:38pm

You'd be taking a hell of a risk as the gun is over powered, and its a lot of money to risk.

pump · 30-01-2010 8:39pm

i changed that bit on the thread a bit hard.

In fairness there is a good bit of a different in prices compared to outside ireland.
I bought a t.m. sopmod M4 from firesupport and there was a big difference in cost with them compared to irish retailers that would order it in for me. Plus if you go into a irish retailer its hard to get what you want if you want good quality stuff without having to wait weeks for them to get it. Faster and cheaper to go outside Ireland for what you want. No point getting thick about it, just the way it is in Ireland at the min. as far as i can c.

Witcher · 30-01-2010 8:41pm

pump wrote: »

i changed that bit on the thread a bit hard.

In fairness there is a good bit of a different in prices compared to outside ireland.
I bought a t.m. sopmod M4 from firesupport and there was a big difference in cost with them compared to irish retailers that would order it in for me. Plus if you go into a irish retailer its hard to get what you want if you want good quality stuff without having to wait weeks for them to get it. Faster and cheaper to go outside Ireland for what you want. No point getting thick about it, just the way it is in Ireland at the min. as far as i can c.

And wait the same period as them, pay vat same as them, delivery same as them and save yourself a fiver if even that....I like your theory:rolleyes:

Leftyflip · 30-01-2010 8:41pm

It's called tax...
Explaing good quality stuff?
You'll find that pretty much every Irish retailer has good quality products in their range.

Masada · 30-01-2010 8:43pm

pump wrote: »

i changed that bit on the thread a bit hard.

In fairness there is a good bit of a different in prices compared to outside ireland.
I bought a t.m. sopmod M4 from firesupport and there was a big difference in cost with them compared to irish retailers that would order it in for me. Plus if you go into a irish retailer its hard to get what you want if you want good quality stuff without having to wait weeks for them to get it. Faster and cheaper to go outside Ireland for what you want. No point getting thick about it, just the way it is in Ireland at the min. as far as i can c.

In fairness though, i you look at guns like the VFC 416, A&K MK43, A&K Masada etc they are all more expensive in the UK than they have been in the reputable stores here. Im sure theres a lot of other guns included too, but those are just the ones i was looking for at the time.,

Shiva · 30-01-2010 8:45pm

pump wrote: »

i changed that bit on the thread a bit hard.

In fairness there is a good bit of a different in prices compared to outside ireland.
I bought a t.m. sopmod M4 from firesupport and there was a big difference in cost with them compared to irish retailers that would order it in for me. Plus if you go into a irish retailer its hard to get what you want if you want good quality stuff without having to wait weeks for them to get it. Faster and cheaper to go outside Ireland for what you want. No point getting thick about it, just the way it is in Ireland at the min. as far as i can c.

Nobody is saying its always cheaper or easier to get it in Ireland - Thats the case with most things. Ireland is a very expensive place to live.

I take great exception with people saying they're being ripped off just because we have to charge a certain amount more to make a living, and make it worthwhile staying in business.

pump · 30-01-2010 8:54pm

Lads im not starting a fight here!!!!
If I want blackhawk stuff, mags for my sopmod stuff like that its a lot quicker to buy outside Ireland where it Is stocked. can be cheaper to I think even after import tax’s. Im in sales myself I know if I cant supply people with what they want and when they want it they will go where they can get it quick. Its the way people are and Im like that myself. its nothing against irish airsoft shops

Anyway im asking peoples thoughts on importing a gbb not irish prices !

pump · 30-01-2010 8:59pm

shiva
so im not starting a fight or **** here but how much would you charge to bring it in for me ? its a serous question.
as i said at the start i wanna bring one in but im not sure what way to go about it now

Shiva wrote: »

Nobody is saying its always cheaper or easier to get it in Ireland - Thats the case with most things. Ireland is a very expensive place to live.

I take great exception with people saying they're being ripped off just because we have to charge a certain amount more to make a living, and make it worthwhile staying in business.

Shiva · 30-01-2010 9:02pm

pump wrote: »

Anyway im asking peoples thoughts on importing a gbb not irish prices !

You'd be best getting a retailer to get it for you - its almost certainly going to be stopped and checked, and if the stated FPS is marked anywhere on the box, it'll be sent to ballistics. If it does actually perform as its supposed to, even in this climate, it'll be well over-powered and destroyed, and you'll lose over €500.

Be prepared for a retailer to look to make about 60 to 100 euro on it - don't forget they're also taking a risk it'll be overpowered, and if its seized, you'll want your money back, and they wont have any way of getting theirs back, so you'll have to make it worth the risk to them.

You also have to consider that they'll have to figure out a way to downgrade it if regulator kits or mags arent available for it.

Shiva · 30-01-2010 9:03pm

pump wrote: »

shiva
so im not starting a fight or **** here but how much would you charge to bring it in for me ? its a serous question.
as i said at the start i wanna bring one in but im not sure what way to go about it now

I'll have to check, but see my post above. I want to be damn sure I can get it downgraded or regulated before I look to do it.

pump · 30-01-2010 9:07pm

ok was just my thought for today lol.
i wouldnt try bring it in if it was overpowered.
didnt think it would be that much to bring it in to be honest.

pump · 30-01-2010 9:17pm

Puding wrote: »

the bill is in place but at the moment the personal import ban is not being enforced, be aware you importing an extremely realistic replica that looks inside and out like the real thing to many so expect a lay over with customer if you do import it your, and also do not forget to add around 25% for of the total value including shipping for duty/vat/admin charges

Thanks for your thoughts pudding.

Shiva · 30-01-2010 9:21pm

pump wrote: »

ok was just my thought for today lol.
i wouldnt try bring it in if it was overpowered.
didnt think it would be that much to bring it in to be honest.

A quick glance would be 753 before VAT.
Add VAT at 21%, and the 13.50 charge from the courier company, and you're at approximately €925, and thats just to get it here, before theres any profit in me doing it.

I dont think its worth it to be honest - if you really want a GBB, the KJW, WE or AGM are better options.

pump · 30-01-2010 9:27pm

Shiva wrote: »

A quick glance would be 753 before VAT.
Add VAT at 21%, and the 13.50 charge from the courier company, and you're at approximately €925, and thats just to get it here, before theres any profit in me doing it.

I dont think its worth it to be honest - if you really want a GBB, the KJW, WE or AGM are better options.

Yea I understand it wouldn’t b cheap. As I said Im in sales myself and had did rough sums myself.
Add 3 or 4 mags and we talking big money

What airsoft shop you have? If you don’t mind me asking?

Shiva · 30-01-2010 9:29pm

pump wrote: »

What airsoft shop you have? If you don’t mind me asking?

LOL. You obviously have sigs turned off

Eirsoft.

pump · 30-01-2010 9:48pm

Shiva wrote: »

LOL. You obviously have sigs turned off

Eirsoft.

was never up with ye to be honest. would be a bit outa my way.

so what gun would you recommend me looking at? want sumthing good quality but hasto be legal outa the box

Shiva · 30-01-2010 10:09pm

pump wrote: »

was never up with ye to be honest. would be a bit outa my way.

so what gun would you recommend me looking at? want sumthing good quality but hasto be legal outa the box

Does it have to be an M4 ?

The Scars from WE are amazing, and you can get Co2 mags for them.

The We 416 is also excellent, although its out of stock at the moment, and wont be back for another couple of weeks.

The KJW M4A1 is pretty fine too. Mags are hard to come by though.

The AGM is a nice piece, and a great price, but its recommended you do some work on it out of the box. Hard to get anywhere at the moment though.

WA are over-priced nowadays, but they're lovely pieces. I have one myself, and Richie loves reminding me how much I spent on it

Again, a few extra parts are required to increase reliability and performance, so probably not worth the money any more.

G&P do a lovely looking range of GBB rifles based off the Western Arms, but I havent actually seen one in the flesh. A bit more expensive than the ones listed above, but they look amazing. If they've had the performance tweaks done to them that the Western Arms could do with, they might be worth a look.

pump · 30-01-2010 10:21pm

the WA is a nice gbb. can you give me a rough cost of the gun for you to get including one mag. ?

what upgrades you thing is required for the gun? send me a p.m. if you wanna

thanks

Shiva · 30-01-2010 10:29pm

pump wrote: »

the WA is a nice gbb. can you give me a rough cost of the gun for you to get including one mag. ?

what upgrades you thing is required for the gun? send me a p.m. if you wanna

thanks

Have a look at the available range and let me know which you prefer -

If its out of stock, it'll probably be a month or so before they're available again.

Also, if you're looking to spend that kinda money, take a look at the G&P range.

They're a little more expensive, but I've just been reading up on them, and they have all the necessary upgrades done, and they're metal to boot. The WA are plastic.

Also, we should probably take it to PM or my thread in the retailers section from here - we're starting to skate over the line between me offering you an opinion, and me selling you something

importing a high cost gbb

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