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Gender wars: is anyone else bored to tears with them?

  • 29-01-2010 12:30am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 11 frimmers


    Last week at work, we were all sitting around at lunch, having a laugh, a bit of banter.....one of the girls got a bit annoyed when it was suggested the only way she'd get a promotion/pay increase was to sleep with the boss. It was said in jest and trust me here, far far more extreme stuff was thrown at other people, but she stormed off to HR saying she'd file a report about harassment and workplace bullying. HR investigated for a bit and let the guy who made the quip off with a warning. Now nobody talks to her at work which is a pity because she was a sound girl but she completely over-reacted, in my view, to a comment made in jest and threatened the position of a colleague.

    Anyway I see a lot of this kind of stuff, some of the people at the call centre say they often get women saying " Are you putting me on hold because I am a woman?" and then they proceed to get even more irate.

    Just as bad, if not worse, are the men who have a kind of backlash against theis behaviour by treating women like garbage. It's such a self-destructive mindset, like they are being told that women have it so hard and are so victimised so they say to themselves, well if I am being told how horrible and disgusting and awful without having done anything then I may as well act like that to justify the criticism. No that isn't wise, just grow up and deal with it. I do admit that discrimination still exists and it's wrong but not to the extent that we hear about it and the people we hear about it from are directing it at those who are not responsible for it and have nothing to do with it.

    However it really annoys me when people blame their inadequacies or failures or incompetences or bad luck or bad treatment on their gender (or race or nationality or accent or whatever). What all these wannabe victims should realise before they play that card is that life is just ****e sometimes-get over yourself! The world isn't out to gey you. You are just crap.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    Typical male post :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,378 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    She was a dog and she knew it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,467 ✭✭✭Wazdakka


    :eek: That's bloody disgraceful..

    What the hell was she doing out of the kitchen?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,510 ✭✭✭Hazys


    Maybe she got so pissed off because she had already slept with the boss in hopes of getting promoted and it still didnt work...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    Maybe she already did sleep with the boss and was shocked her secret was out? Or angry cause she still didn't get the promotion.

    edit; damn you hazys!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,467 ✭✭✭Wazdakka


    The threads been Unlocked again?

    *Gets popcorn*


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    frimmers wrote: »
    Last week at work, we were all sitting around at lunch, having a laugh, a bit of banter.....one of the girls....

    Stopped reading here. Girls have shi t banter. Fact.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,510 ✭✭✭Hazys


    Maybe she already did sleep with the boss and was shocked her secret was out? Or angry cause she still didn't get the promotion.

    edit; damn you hazys!

    Great minds think alike...too alike...that was a bit freaky, are you stalking me?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    Hazys wrote: »
    Great minds think alike...too alike...that was a bit freaky, are you stalking me?

    I'm typing on the same keyboard as you...

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_2qnAXkCLQ_U/R1Nd3rqy6TI/AAAAAAAAAFE/YDLsHEG7uI8/s1600-R/tyler_durden.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,510 ✭✭✭Hazys



    Thats amazing i was able to thank myself...i thought you couldnt do that!?!


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  • Gender Wars - sounds like a good game, how do you play?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,330 ✭✭✭Gran Hermano


    [quote=[Deleted User];64226521]Gender Wars - sounds like a good game, how do you play?[/QUOTE]

    Sorry I can't help, you best ask a female as not only do they write the rules they amend them frequently and without informing us menfolk.
    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭soups05


    [quote=[Deleted User];64226521]Gender Wars - sounds like a good game, how do you play?[/QUOTE]


    Rules For Men

    1. The Female always makes The Rules.

    2. The Rules are subject to change at any time without prior notification.

    3. No Male can possibly know all The Rules.

    4. If the Female suspects the Male knows all The Rules, she must immediately change some or all of The Rules.

    5. The Female is never wrong.

    6. If the Female is wrong, it is because of a flagrant misunderstanding which was a direct result of something the Male did or said wrong.

    7. If Rule 6 applies, the Male must apologize immediately for causing the misunderstanding.

    8. The Female can change her mind at any given point in time.

    9. The Male must never change his mind without express written consent from the Female.

    10. The Female has every right to be angry or upset at any time.

    11. The Male must remain calm at all times, unless the Female wants him to be angry or upset.

    12. The Female must under no circumstances let the Male know whether or not she wants him to be angry or upset.
    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭soups05


    Women's Rules

    Women, learn to work the toilet seat. You're a big girl. If it's up, put it down. We need it up, you need it down. You don't hear us complaining about you leaving it down.

    Birthdays, Valentines, and Anniversaries are not considered by us to be opportunities to see if we can find the perfect present . . . . again!

    Sometimes we are not thinking about you. Live with it.

    Sunday = sports. It's like the full moon or the changing of the tides. Let it be.

    Don't cut your hair. Ever. Long hair is always more attractive than short hair. One of the big reasons guys fear getting married is that married women always cut their hair, and by then you're stuck with her.

    Ask for what you want. Subtle hints do not work! Strong hints do not work! Obvious hints do not work! Just say it!

    We don't remember dates. . . .Period!!

    Most guys own three pairs of shoes - tops. What makes you think we'd be any good at choosing which pair, out of thirty, would look good with your dress?

    Yes and No are perfectly acceptable answers to almost every question.

    Come to us with a problem only if you want help solving it. That's what we do. Sympathy is what your girlfriends are for.

    A headache that lasts for 17 months is a problem. See a doctor.

    Anything we said 6 months ago is inadmissible in an argument. In fact, all comments become null and void after 7 days.

    If you won't dress like the Victoria's Secret girls, don't expect us to act like soap opera guys.

    If you think you're fat, you probably are. Don't ask us. We've been tricked before!!

    If something we said can be interpreted two ways, and one of the ways makes you sad or angry, we meant the other one.

    Let us ogle. We are going to look anyway; it's genetic.

    You can either ask us to do something or tell us how you want it done. Not both. If you already know best how to do it, just do it yourself.

    Whenever possible, please say whatever you have to say during commercials.

    Christopher Columbus did not need directions, and neither do we.

    The relationship is never going to be like it was the first two months we were going out. Get over it. And quit whining to your girlfriends.

    ALL men see in only 16 colors, like Windows default settings. Peach, for example, is a fruit, not a color. Pumpkin is also a fruit. We have no idea what mauve is.

    If it itches, it will be scratched. We do that.

    We are not mind readers and we never will be. Our lack of mind-reading ability is not proof of how little we care about you.

    If we ask what is wrong and you say "nothing," we will act like nothing's wrong. We know you are lying, but it is just not worth the hassle.

    If you ask a question you don't want an answer to, expect an answer you don't want to hear.

    Don't ask us what we're thinking about unless you are prepared to discuss such topics as navel lint, the shotgun formation, or monster trucks.

    Foreign films are best left to foreigners. (Unless it's Bruce Lee or some war flick where it doesn't really matter what they're saying anyway.)

    BEER is as exciting for us as handbags are for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭Sea Sharp


    OP the story you told can be summarized as follows:
    Uptight gob****e takes action against work colleague after failing to take a joke.

    I don't see how that relates to 'gender wars'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,592 ✭✭✭Ro: maaan!


    When it comes to banter, it's easy to have the attitude that everyone dishes out some and everyone takes some, so where's the problem. And I would generally be of the opinion that anything goes. But I can definitely see how being female in this situation would not be the the same as being male. If you take any random male and any random female involved in any random 100 slagging matches, I would imagine that the things the male had got stick for were spred out evenly on a number of subjects. But for the female I'd say the majority of it would be about something to do with gender. And specifically sex/apperance. I don't really think that slagging someone about this topic any any worse than about anything else. But to have to listen to the same **** day in day out about ANY topic would annoy anybody. (Much like people with red hair/glasses/short people/etc.)

    Basically, be ****in' original and don't fall back on overused/boring/easy stereotypes to get your digs in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭Abi


    rimmers wrote: »
    .
    He he he :pac:
    The world isn't out to gey you.
    He he he :pac:



    Right.. now I've that out of my system.. Why do you give a shit what anyone else does anyway? Yeah, someone didn't take a dig well - hardly a gender war tbh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 827 ✭✭✭Wolflikeme


    Nah just the double standards that seems to rare it's head every now and then in such debates.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭caseyann


    Good woman man banter always a winner :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Does this include hard-fought, yet tender, wars between the female gender in mud-baths?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 889 ✭✭✭Bajingo


    Ro: maaan! wrote: »
    When it comes to banter, it's easy to have the attitude that everyone dishes out some and everyone takes some, so where's the problem. And I would generally be of the opinion that anything goes. But I can definitely see how being female in this situation would not be the the same as being male. If you take any random male and any random female involved in any random 100 slagging matches, I would imagine that the things the male had got stick for were spred out evenly on a number of subjects. But for the female I'd say the majority of it would be about something to do with gender. And specifically sex/apperance. I don't really think that slagging someone about this topic any any worse than about anything else. But to have to listen to the same **** day in day out about ANY topic would annoy anybody. (Much like people with red hair/glasses/short people/etc.)

    Basically, be ****in' original and don't fall back on overused/boring/easy stereotypes to get your digs in.

    ..because if you dont you will get fired..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    OP .....it sounds like your co-worker was either on the rag or really needs a roide !!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 578 ✭✭✭Peggypeg


    I like the way the women are answering seriously and all the guys are just telling sexist jokes. Bless their little hearts:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Men tend to get bigger payrises & promotions over their female counterparts, becuse in general, they ask for them or actively seek them more than women do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Peggypeg wrote: »
    sexist jokes.
    Peggypeg wrote: »
    Bless their little hearts:rolleyes:

    .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 578 ✭✭✭Peggypeg


    Yeah but it's alright when I do it:p When I do it, it's just us ladyfolk taking back our power from our fearful male oppressors and this is how I express it. I am woman hear me roar!!!

    Meow...

    On a serious note though, I think in alot of areas Ireland is well up there on equality, defo better than ALOT of places and what's left to do will be taken care of over time, equality is still relatively new really. And I think she did over react, if it really upset her she should have just called him a f*cking ignorant b*stard and maybe threw custard at him. If there was any available.


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