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Cycle to work scheme - when did you get your bike - after invoice or after payment

  • 28-01-2010 9:39am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,644 ✭✭✭


    The thread header says it all really. Just wondering if the bike shops are trusting enough to release the bike while payment is being processed?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 139 ✭✭shergar22


    The thread header says it all really. Just wondering if the bike shops are trusting enough to release the bike while payment is being processed?
    Depends on who your organisation is, and what the method of payment is. Nobody is going to release a bike until they receive confirmation that you have been accepted for the scheme and that your organisation has confirmed that they will pay.
    The more well known they are, the better. Public Service organisations like the Gardai, Councils, Govt Depts shouldn't have any problem. In my case I wasn't the first from my company to deal with the shop, which had made it easier, as they were set up on our payment system etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,400 ✭✭✭Caroline_ie


    I applied for the scheme at work -> a couple of days after I got a letter from work for the attn of the bike shop w/ which my work had an agreement -> the next day I went to the shop -> I ordered the bike ( had spoken w/ shop manager and the bike was held at the warehouise for me) -> Bike arrived the following week -> picked it up, cycled it.

    That was in July - I started paying for it in January ... they had misterioulsy lost my invoice from the shop.

    :)

    All smooth -


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    I asked about this in my work place. Said they won't do for fear of legal consequences were there an accident as technically they own they bike or some rubbish like that :mad:

    Good old H&S ruins the day again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,218 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    I asked about this in my work place. Said they won't do for fear of legal consequences were there an accident as technically they own they bike or some rubbish like that :mad:

    Complete nonsense, in my legally unqualified opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    I asked about this in my work place. Said they won't do for fear of legal consequences were there an accident as technically they own they bike or some rubbish like that :mad:

    Good old H&S ruins the day again
    The company can actually download, for free, stock contracts which are legally binding and which basically declare that the employee owns the bike from the start.

    Whoever was charged with doing it in your company was just too lazy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,644 ✭✭✭SerialComplaint


    I asked about this in my work place. Said they won't do for fear of legal consequences were there an accident as technically they own they bike or some rubbish like that :mad:

    Good old H&S ruins the day again

    This is nothing to do with Health & Safety.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 100 ✭✭sportbilly2008


    i work for the hse inlimerick and they have said that theyare not doing it.
    Imagine the authority that exists for our physical wellbeing is not interested in being part of something that will benefit your health!It even saves them money on their prsi.The botom line is someone in admin where i work couldn,t be bothered to do the paperwork which is probably straight forward.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 211 ✭✭happy_73


    The thread header says it all really. Just wondering if the bike shops are trusting enough to release the bike while payment is being processed?

    Had to wait for payment to be received by wiggle before they would ship the bike - but they did hold onto the bike for about a month before our finance dept cleared the payment... at this stage the sale in wiggle had ended but I still got my cayo at the sale price. :)

    S


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 730 ✭✭✭short circuit


    depends on how your company scheme works I suppose.

    In my case, we applied to HR, the HR processed through biketowork and 2 weeks later gave the vouchers.

    The bike was in earlier, so I paid cash to the shop and took the bike. When the vouchers came through, I took the voucher to the shop and got cash back from them.

    Obviously, I had discussed this with the shop .. they pretty much suggested it. cash flow is good for them too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    I got a bike from Cycleways. At the time I was working for a very small company. I went into Cycleways, spec.ed the bike and placed the order and was told my company could pay by company cheque. I think Cycleways then rang my company to confirm that they were operating the scheme. Work took quite a while to knuckle down to doing the paperwork and issuing the cheque (two months or so), but I was getting a Brompton and there was a long lead-in time on that anyway.

    I think Cycleways were expecting the cheque after the Bromtpon arrived from England, but I left it in beforehand and they gave me a receipt.

    The only frustrating bit was trying to get my employer to read the regulations of the scheme and issue the cheque, but I suppose, to be fair, they did have more urgent matter for their consideration, with the recession and everything.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,995 ✭✭✭✭blorg


    I asked about this in my work place. Said they won't do for fear of legal consequences were there an accident as technically they own they bike or some rubbish like that :mad:
    Nothing to do with H&S, someone just isn't arsed. You might point them to this:
    Q. If the employer opts for the ‘salary sacrifice’ model, during the 12 month salary ‘sacrifice sacrifice’ period who actually owns the bike, the employer or the employee ?

    A. On the basis of a signed agreement in which they accept the bicycle equipment and a reduced salary in the make up of their remuneration package, the employee owns the bicycle. Ownership will similarly transfer to the employee if the employer purchases the bicycle for the employeee.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 157 ✭✭montac


    tomasrojo wrote: »

    The only frustrating bit was trying to get my employer to read the regulations of the scheme and issue the cheque, but I suppose, to be fair, they did have more urgent matter for their consideration, with the recession and everything.

    I got a Planet X on my CTW scheme. Because it was over the €1000 threshold, I did all the reading up on all the regulations, and presented HR with all the documentation needed, and quotes from the regs to back up my plan. I knew that if I asked them straight up (a) can I buy a bike in UK, and (b) buy it in £Stg, that I'd be refused. I think I blinded them with science...!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    I forgot to mention that I persuaded my employer to do the scheme by having the whole price taken from one salary payment. That way, they weren't left out of pocket for any time at all.


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