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    #2
    Atomic Pineapple
    Registered Users Posts: 18,272 ✭✭✭✭Atomic Pineapple


    the sooner there introduced the better!


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    #3
    mondeo
    Registered Users Posts: 3,668 ✭✭✭mondeo


    I think it's a sensible idea, nothing new to me since I drive a Volvo with beams on all the time anyway.


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    peasant
    Registered Users Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    Well, my case in an extreme example :D

    The van is painted in matt camouflage green and the road to work leads trough forested and shaded areas on a narrow road.

    When I first got the thing, I had near accidents / close shaves almost every second day where people would cut me off / not pull in / not slow down. Since the daytime running lights are up ...nothing.


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    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    peasant wrote: »
    Well, my case in an extreme example :D

    The van is painted in matt camouflage green and the road to work leads trough forested and shaded areas on a narrow road.

    When I first got the thing, I had near accidents / close shaves almost every second day where people would cut me off / not pull in / not slow down. Since the daytime running lights are up ...nothing.

    You could try not driving on roads not flanked by shrubbery :)


    I find lights a lot more dazzling in the daytime.


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    peasant
    Registered Users Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    Stekelly wrote: »
    I find lights a lot more dazzling in the daytime.

    I don't think that applies to specific DRL's
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055286770&highlight=daytime+running+lights


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    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 39,070 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Its really bikers who would be against them.


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    Carawaystick
    Registered Users Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    The rsa page linked says studies have been done but there's no actual reference given. are they mocking us? or just muppets?


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    ninty9er
    Registered Users Posts: 9,366 ✭✭✭ninty9er


    Carawaystick wrote: »
    The rsa page linked says studies have been done but there's no actual reference given. are they mocking us? or just muppets?
    They are all linked on p.18


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    L1011
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,948 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    kbannon wrote: »
    Its really bikers who would be against them.

    ...and for the flimsiest of reasons. They want to keep their lights on but not have any cars doing it for some mistaken belief that if everyone had them on, you wouldn't notice the lights.


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    daveharnett
    Registered Users Posts: 2,567 ✭✭✭daveharnett


    Given that 10-20% of drivers haven't yet mastered the use of nighttime running lights, I'd say that they have a fair bit of work ahead of them.


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    peasant
    Registered Users Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    daveharnett wrote: »
    Given that 10-20% of drivers haven't yet mastered the use of nighttime running lights, I'd say that they have a fair bit of work ahead of them.

    The beauty of DRL's is that they are always on as soon as you turn on the ignition


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    Cuddlesworth
    Registered Users Posts: 13,981 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    MYOB wrote: »
    ...and for the flimsiest of reasons. They want to keep their lights on but not have any cars doing it for some mistaken belief that if everyone had them on, you wouldn't notice the lights.

    I'm not sure where I stand on this issue itself, but never fool yourself into believing the average Irish motorist is capable of looking up a near empty road and seeing the motorbike driving down it.


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    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users Posts: 24,479 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Cool, another law the RSA and Gardai won't enforce.

    Also

    "They're not fogs, they DRLs"

    will become quite a common phrase I reckon :rolleyes:


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    Cuddlesworth
    Registered Users Posts: 13,981 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    I would assume it would simply be a requirement for new cars to have it as standard.


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    faceman
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,587 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    kbannon wrote: »
    Its really bikers who would be against them.

    Not all bikers though. :)

    Its badly needed, alot of drivers on the road are almost afraid to turn on their lights - even during the night! :eek:


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    galwaytt
    Registered Users Posts: 12,761 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    kbannon wrote: »
    Its really bikers who would be against them.

    ...er, a biker myself...........why ?
    MYOB wrote: »
    ...and for the flimsiest of reasons. They want to keep their lights on but not have any cars doing it for some mistaken belief that if everyone had them on, you wouldn't notice the lights.
    ..you obviously don't have a bike - or at least not for a while: bikes haven't had light switches for years, (and longer in the US). Headlight permanently on is mandatory in the EU, and there is no way to turn them off.

    So if you wanna be-atch about it ;) please call 1-800-EU :)

    Me, I like 'em, on 2 & 4 wheels.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



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    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 39,070 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    My understanding is that the bikers tend to use DRLs and if everyone was using them then the bikers wouldn't be as visible as they are now.
    Search through any other DRL thread on here.


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    L1011
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,948 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    kbannon wrote: »
    My understanding is that the bikers tend to use DRLs and if everyone was using them then the bikers wouldn't be as visible as they are now.
    Search through any other DRL thread on here.

    The visibility does NOT come from being the only thing lit up, though. Thats what bikers seem to believe, but its not the case.


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    DubTony
    Registered Users Posts: 3,268 ✭✭✭DubTony


    They should be mandatory on all silver and light grey cars. Especially in our concrete laden suburbs.


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    donkey balls
    Registered Users Posts: 3,437 ✭✭✭donkey balls


    since the 90s(maybe even earlier) eircom had a policy that people driving company vehicles have there diped lights on even on a bright sunny day.
    this reduced the amount of RTA's the company had also most big transport companies when assessing drivers also check that your driving with the diped lights on.


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