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Cycle to Work scheme stopped?

  • 26-01-2010 10:26am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭


    Hi guys

    Iv just found out from a friend i work with that they have stopped the cycle to work scheme where i work.

    I got a bike on this before christmas.

    I work for the HSE by the way. Is there anyway he can fight this?

    k


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,669 Mod ✭✭✭✭RobFowl


    k_d wrote: »
    Hi guys

    Iv just found out from a friend i work with that they have stopped the cycle to work scheme where i work.

    I got a bike on this before christmas.

    I work for the HSE by the way. Is there anyway he can fight this?

    k

    It's entirely voluntary as to whether the employer partakes in the scheme. Suspect it's to do with the "work to rule".

    The penpushers are obviously objecting to the paperwork....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,223 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Work to rule?


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,393 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    As RobFowl says, it's entirely up to the employer. However they cannot rstrict it to a particular sector of their workforce, I do not know how the HSE is structured, but this means it will have been withdrawn for all employees of the particular employer involved.

    If, however, the (same) employer continues to offer the scheme to employees at other locations, then the removal at certain locations certainly can be challenged


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭k_d


    Its only in the one hospital.

    Theres about 20 or so who have availed from last september. She seems to be saying we are not allowed anymore.

    I thought also because its HSE it would have to be stopped in all areas and not just the one because this one person does not want the scheme here,.


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,393 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    k_d wrote: »
    Its only in the one hospital.

    Theres about 20 or so who have availed from last september. She seems to be saying we are not allowed anymore.

    I thought also because its HSE it would have to be stopped in all areas and not just the one because this one person does not want the scheme here,.
    Is your employer the hospital? - if so they can do this.

    As I mentioned in my previous post, if your employer has other employees elsewhere (and I presume if it is the HSE they do), the scheme would have to be withdrawn at all locations, not just one


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 690 ✭✭✭poochiem


    yeah UCD did it for about 3 weeks in October and I missed it by a day (my bike was stolen the day before it ended). :( no lee-way given.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,141 ✭✭✭Doctor Bob


    Lumen wrote: »
    Work to rule?

    Yep- y'know, sticking rigidly to the terms and conditions of one's contract and not doing any work outside that specific remit.

    So, no Boardsing for me! ;)


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,669 Mod ✭✭✭✭RobFowl


    Lumen wrote: »
    Work to rule?

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2010/0126/breaking8.htm

    "Tens of thousands of members of the unions Impact and the Irish Nurses and Midwives Organisation will continue their work-to-rule today in protest at pay cuts introduced in the budget.
    The unions have introduced a work-to-rule and a ban on co-operation with reform plans.
    The industrial action involves staff in the Civil Service, local authorities, health and education sectors. Unions have warned that the current industrial action could escalate in the days and weeks ahead.
    Another Civil Service union, the PSEU, is scheduled to join the industrial action tomorrow, with Unite taking part from Thursday and Siptu from next week."


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,393 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    All Lumen's spare time is spent trying to keep us in order - he has no time for news


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,223 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Er, that's what I meant. :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,933 ✭✭✭Sniipe


    The HSE in Galway never had the scheme. Its the most stupid thing I've ever heard. They are public sector and they are all about health. A bike scheme by the public's government aimed at increasing health awareness. These guys should have been on board from day one.

    The head doesn't know what the feet is up to. Lazy public sector layabouts. The scheme is in place till december 2010 minimum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,995 ✭✭✭✭blorg


    They are only screwing over their own members if it is work-to-rule. The employers and customers are hardly going to care if they don't run the bike scheme.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,223 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    blorg wrote: »
    They are only screwing over their own members if it is work-to-rule.

    Au contraire, they're sticking it to the man.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,831 ✭✭✭ROK ON


    If by Work to Rule they mean that public sector employees may actually work then the economy may actually benefit.
    Hell I may even buy some Irish govt bonds on the back of this :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭droidus


    Oh dear god. Please dont bring politics into this, boards is full of retarded public sector bashing as it is. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,141 ✭✭✭Doctor Bob


    droidus wrote: »
    Oh dear god. Please dont bring politics into this, boards is full of retarded public sector bashing as it is. :(

    +1!

    (And I'm not just saying that as an over-paid, under-occupied, deadline-ignoring, DB-pensioned, yada yada yada...)

    PS FWIW, I'm not on Work To Rule at the moment, despite my earlier quip. Right- back to work! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭droidus


    Can I also add that it is unlikely that this has anything to do with work 2 rule in the public sector. The people who administer the C2W scheme are HR or payroll administrators, and this would therefore fall under their normal duties.

    Work to rule generally applies to stuff like (in the case of a Hospital or University) medical or academic staff refusing to do admin work or answer phones.

    Ive heard of several PS employers being extremely slow to implement the scheme. For example - UCD refused to implement it but bowed under pressure from an 800 signatory staff petition and changed their mind.

    The moral of the story - pressure your employers and get like minded employees to do the same. Tell them to use a third party administrator if they claim that they dont have the resources to do it themselves, that way it costs them next to nothing to implement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,724 ✭✭✭jaqian


    I'd say the reason the scheme failed (speaking from personal experience) is that there were so many pay cuts the civil/public-servants could no longer afford to have deductions made.

    Not a problem for me now as my brother who is cycle nut has given me his old Lapierre FastTrack after upgrading again. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭k_d


    jaqian wrote: »
    I'd say the reason the scheme failed


    Failed?

    Anway, iv just been told that the person who stopped it has realised that she can not!! alot of people knockin on the office door yesturday afternoon!!

    Dont think they actually knew what it is!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,724 ✭✭✭jaqian


    k_d wrote: »
    Failed?

    Thought I heard on the radio that it was finished due to porr take-up? Must have heard wrong.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 638 ✭✭✭LastGasp


    Beasty wrote: »
    All Lumen's spare time is spent trying to keep us in order - he has no time for news
    Fixed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,933 ✭✭✭Sniipe


    I heard today that the HSE in Galway are starting their roll out of cycle to work on the 1st March... it only took them a year and three months... I wonder will this work to rule thingi delay them... but as said they are only shooting themselves in the foot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 246 ✭✭notuslimited


    My wife works for the HSE in Kildare and West Wicklow. She tells me that she got an e-mail today about the scheme starting again.


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