Bioshock 2 PRE PURCHASE for 33.75/Per Person - 4 Pack

ED E

On Steam. Its a four pack, so one person buys and then sends the other three copies to the others. You also get 4 free copies of Bioshock to be kept/sent.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/8859/

At 33.75 PP its gotta be the cheapest way to get this, and by god it should be worth it. It unlocks on the 9th, you can expect a few hours of download time, but after that you'll be good to go.

I'm in the middle of exams on the 9th, lovely:rolleyes:




Lethal.

Sarn

Almost, €29-30 on Amazon with free delivery, but you'd be unlikely to have it on release.

ED E

Sarn wrote: »

Almost, €29-30 on Amazon with free delivery, but you'd be unlikely to have it on release.

Looks like this recession has done at least one good thing

Tucker.Tim

Lethal_Bullet wrote: »

Looks like this recession has done at least one good thing

PC games have been in that area at release for well over a decade. The reason console games are lower in general too has more to do with the stage of the life of the consoles we've reached where the whole process is benefitting from the ecomonies of scale at this point. It has alot less to do with the recession than you think.

Effluo

I got MW2 b4 release day with these guys http://www.coolshop.co.uk/catalog/product/58440-bioshock-2--for-pc

Very "cheap" too

Fol20

Tucker.Tim wrote: »

PC games have been in that area at release for well over a decade. The reason console games are lower in general too has more to do with the stage of the life of the consoles we've reached where the whole process is benefitting from the ecomonies of scale at this point. It has alot less to do with the recession than you think.

Dude,you gotta be kidding.Games are cheaper now completely due to the recession.The prime example is codmw2.MW2 priced at around 50 in all shops but i remember 2 years ago at its peak mw1 was more or less 70 in shops..Shops would love to price games at that price again but since games are a luxury good and not a necessity,they have to reduce the price according

I know we have gotten to later stages of this generation cycle but economies of scale is a bit much in the games market.Developing games if anything has gotten worse,Development times are only on the increase,dev costs are also on the way up and since the market is flooded with more and more games every year,its harder for one game to stand out in the crowd

Fnz

Fol20 wrote: »

Dude,you gotta be kidding.Games are cheaper now completely due to the recession.The prime example is codmw2.MW2 priced at around 50 in all shops but i remember 2 years ago at its peak mw1 was more or less 70 in shops.

http://ie.xbox360.ign.com/articles/100/1004751p1.html

Tucker.Tim

Fol20 wrote: »

Dude,you gotta be kidding.Games are cheaper now completely due to the recession.The prime example is codmw2.MW2 priced at around 50 in all shops but i remember 2 years ago at its peak mw1 was more or less 70 in shops..Shops would love to price games at that price again but since games are a luxury good and not a necessity,they have to reduce the price according

I know we have gotten to later stages of this generation cycle but economies of scale is a bit much in the games market.Developing games if anything has gotten worse,Development times are only on the increase,dev costs are also on the way up and since the market is flooded with more and more games every year,its harder for one game to stand out in the crowd

How much was Final Fantasy XII at release? You'd have been troubled to find it at launch for more than 50 Euro.
You've essentially avoided the whole point of what I said and then tried to say it doesn't exsist. At least try!

And it's good to point out you'd have had to been a prize fool to have paid 70 Euro for the standard edition of Modern Warfare 1 at launch in 2007. To add to that, the above poster has rightly pointed out how bad an example Modern Warfare 2 was.

The only thing that has changed on the ultimate scale is that inflation makes 60 Euro five years ago worth more than 60 Euro today. The scaling in terms of how prices get progressively cheaper as a hardware generation matures has not.

Economies of scale relates to the production, not the development. Rising development costs matter for little when the consumer is conditioned by a 60 Euro price point - they can't charge more (the obove example being the obvious except that proves the rule) for the product, so it doesn't matter if a game has a budget of 100 million or 10 million, the glass ceiling of retail pricing is already established.

ProjectColossus

Lethal_Bullet wrote: »

On Steam. Its a four pack, so one person buys and then sends the other three copies to the others. You also get 4 free copies of Bioshock to be kept/sent.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/8859/

At 33.75 PP its gotta be the cheapest way to get this, and by god it should be worth it. It unlocks on the 9th, you can expect a few hours of download time, but after that you'll be good to go.

I'm in the middle of exams on the 9th, lovely:rolleyes:




Lethal.

If the pesrson purchasing the pack is in the UK or the US (paying in GBP or USD), it works out around €24 per person which is a much better deal.

wench

Effluo wrote: »

Oh and amazon have free delivery when goods exceed £25, so you need to fins an extra cent worth of goods to get free delivery But that also means that it'll only cost you more like €28

With Irish vat applied it comes to £26.40, so it will qualify for the free delivery.

Fol20

Fnz wrote: »

http://ie.xbox360.ign.com/articles/100/1004751p1.html

Where was it priced at above 50e..like if gamestop sold it for 50 i doubt other places would have it dearer than that..That article is dated 19 july so that doesnt show the proper price since prices can change up until it is released in nov..

Hardware prices may decrease with economies of scale but development of games which definitely effects prices of games has not gone down.

Tucker.Tim

Fol20 wrote: »

Where was it priced at above 50e..like if gamestop sold it for 50 i doubt other places would have it dearer than that..That article is dated 19 july so that doesnt show the proper price since prices can change up until it is released in nov..

Hardware prices may decrease with economies of scale but development of games which definitely effects prices of games has not gone down.

At least try to read what I said. At least try.

Fol20

Tucker.Tim wrote: »

At least try to read what I said. At least try.

Production costs for what,Putting the info onto a dvd?In terms of costs thats always been small for this generation,well for the xbox anyway.blu rays have gone down a bit i suppose,but in the overall scheme of things thats a small costs for the making of a game

Tucker.Tim

Fol20 wrote: »

Production costs for what,Putting the info onto a dvd?In terms of costs thats always been small for this generation,well for the xbox anyway.blu rays have gone down a bit i suppose,but in the overall scheme of things thats a small costs for the making of a game

Nope. If the consumer won't buy a came at 60 Euro, it's better for the publisher/wholesaler/retailier to sell at a discount than not to sell at all. Once a game, a movie or an album goes into production, the fact is that if it cost 200 million or 2 million to create doesn't matter - as I said, any money is better than none at all.

It's also worth noting you don't really understand what 'production' is - it's not just the retail chain, but licensing, finding an efficient, well-tooled engine (Unreal Engine 3 today is a far better product than it was four years ago) among many other things. That's what producers deal with, hence why they're called producers.

Fol20

Tucker.Tim wrote: »

It's also worth noting you don't really understand what 'production' is - it's not just the retail chain, but licensing, finding an efficient, well-tooled engine (Unreal Engine 3 today is a far better product than it was four years ago) among many other things. That's what producers deal with, hence why they're called producers.

some of what you talk about would be in admin and marketing and how have they come down?

Although the Unreal engine 3 has improved,iv never heard of the cost of using it coming down.Although i dont know this for a fact because i doubt studio are going to release the cost for everything,how do you "know" that the cost of using such engine has come down especially when that particular engine has a fairly powerful stranglehold on the market today

All your saying is deflecting from the question.Has the recession driven down prices.The processes in making a game remain the same,however if people dont have as much money to make impulse buys,i think prices will come down..

If you say economies of scale is the reason for prices getting cheaper,why are studios closing,i thought if economies of scale would mean in the short run they are more cost effective

Fol20

Tucker.Tim wrote: »

Nope. If the consumer won't buy a came at 60 Euro, it's better for the publisher/wholesaler/retailier to sell at a discount than not to sell at all. Once a game, a movie or an album goes into production, the fact is that if it cost 200 million or 2 million to create doesn't matter - as I said, any money is better than none at all.
producers.

Yea you are right,but its about achieving the best possible amount from consumer.During the celtic tiger people were willing to spend more on a good because they could afford it.Now since people have less money,retailers have to drop prices to sell games.

"Nope. If the consumer won't buy a came at 60 Euro, it's better for the publisher/wholesaler/retailier to sell at a discount than not to sell at all."

Why wont a consumer pay 60 euro..Maybe because of the recession....
Just maybe..

Tucker.Tim

Fol20 wrote: »

Yea you are right,but its about achieving the best possible amount from consumer.During the celtic tiger people were willing to spend more on a good because they could afford it.Now since people have less money,retailers have to drop prices to sell games.

"Nope. If the consumer won't buy a came at 60 Euro, it's better for the publisher/wholesaler/retailier to sell at a discount than not to sell at all."

Why wont a consumer pay 60 euro..Maybe because of the recession....
Just maybe..

Then why were triple PS2 games around 50 Euro at launch at around the same time into the last hardware generation, at the zenth of the Celtic Tiger no less? As install bases increase, the ability to reduce the price up front for games becomes viable - it's easier to make a profit when there's 20 million consumers with a console than when there's 2 million console owners and the publishing house have to first create higher resolution art assets and wrangle with a new piece of hardware. The economies of scale.

It has very little to do with the recession - desperate retailers will sporadically offer cheaper than usual prices, but that doesn't explain why the base rate is always lower into the life of a hardware generation.

Fol20

Tucker.Tim wrote: »

Then why were triple PS2 games around 50 Euro at launch at around the same time into the last hardware generation, at the zenth of the Celtic Tiger no less? As install bases increase, the ability to reduce the price up front for games becomes viable - it's easier to make a profit when there's 20 million consumers with a console than when there's 2 million console owners and the publishing house have to first create higher resolution art assets and wrangle with a new piece of hardware. The economies of scale.

It has very little to do with the recession - desperate retailers will sporadically offer cheaper than usual prices, but that doesn't explain why the base rate is always lower into the life of a hardware generation.

Gaming has come a long way since the ps2

If you recall one of the first things i said was the development costs and times have increased,thus the increase in price.

Yes your right that in theory,with a larger install base ,they could reduce price ,however in reality,companies will try to take as much money as possible from the consumer

Tucker.Tim

Fol20 wrote: »

Gaming has come a long way since the ps2

If you recall one of the first things i said was the development costs and times have increased,thus the increase in price.

Yes your right that in theory,with a larger install base ,they could reduce price ,however in reality,companies will try to take as much money as possible from the consumer

Obviously. That doesn't mean the price has to be the highest at retail, though.

I keep repeating it because it comes down to it however you cut it - the economies of scale. It's better for a publish to sell five million copies at 40 Euro than it is to sell one million copies at 60 Euros. It's easier to do the first when the install base is larger.

Not the recession, I'm afraid.

Fol20

Tucker.Tim wrote: »

Obviously. That doesn't mean the price has to be the highest at retail, though.

I keep repeating it because it comes down to it however you cut it - the economies of scale. It's better for a publish to sell five million copies at 40 Euro than it is to sell one million copies at 60 Euros. It's easier to do the first when the install base is larger.

Not the recession, I'm afraid.

You could say that to a degree at any period in the lifecycle of a console.

Tucker.Tim

Fol20 wrote: »

You could say that to a degree at any period in the lifecycle of a console.

Exactly. The end from me, too!

ED E

ProjectColossus wrote: »

If the pesrson purchasing the pack is in the UK or the US (paying in GBP or USD), it works out around €24 per person which is a much better deal.

My mate has loads of mates in the US, this could work.


Also lads, this is bargains, not consumer affairs:P

Tucker.Tim

Lethal_Bullet wrote: »

My mate has loads of mates in the US, this could work.


Also lads, this is bargains, not consumer affairs:P

And a 'bargain' that was superseded by the second post in the thread. It's unreasonable to expect someone to buy four copies or find four people they can trust to pay them for the extra copies so please, spare us.

ProjectColossus

Tucker.Tim wrote: »

And a 'bargain' that was superseded by the second post in the thread. It's unreasonable to expect someone to buy four copies or find four people they can trust to pay them for the extra copies so please, spare us.

Depends on a few factors such as preferred method of delivery and of course, price. At (approx with a little effort) €23.50 on Steam I say -1 to you sir.

ED E

And a 'bargain' that was superseded by the second post in the thread. It's unreasonable to expect someone to buy four copies or find four people they can trust to pay them for the extra copies so please, spare us..

I've got 3 of us so far, and one is to naive for me to scam, the other likes his weightlifting, so they're safe that I wont take the cash and run.

Also, order from amazon you'll probably get it thursday, steam you get it tuesday. This for me is worth loads as my last exam is tuesday:)

Tucker.Tim

Lethal_Bullet wrote: »

I've got 3 of us so far, and one is to naive for me to scam, the other likes his weightlifting, so they're safe that I wont take the cash and run.

Also, order from amazon you'll probably get it thursday, steam you get it tuesday. This for me is worth loads as my last exam is tuesday:)

It doesn't defeat the point this is a bargain alerts board and the 'alert' was bettered within one post.