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Buy ESB Shares Now... EU Electric Car Strategy Announced.

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    Zube
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,502 ✭✭✭Zube


    Saab Ed wrote: »

    Wrong route IMO .

    I don't follow. You think it's a bad idea for the European manufacturers to roll out electric cars with compatability across Europe?

    Or you think the EU encouraging this is bad?

    Electric cars are bad?


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    testicle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭testicle


    Saab Ed wrote: »
    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2010/0120/breaking68.htm

    Wrong route IMO .

    Buy shares? We already own 95% of it....


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    si_guru
    Registered Users Posts: 2,347 ✭✭✭si_guru


    Tralee Gardai already testing ESB powered cars....

    http://www.jadlamracingmodels.co.uk/images/ScalCars1/Police-LR-anim.gif


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    Gran Hermano
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,330 ✭✭✭Gran Hermano


    si_guru wrote: »
    Tralee Gardai already testing ESB powered cars....

    http://www.jadlamracingmodels.co.uk/images/ScalCars1/Police-LR-anim.gif

    I doubt they're testing just yet. They'll need to arrange some blue flu, retraining and a pay rise to cope with the trauma of using a plug instead of a petrol pump.


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    pajo1981
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    Zube wrote: »
    I don't follow. You think it's a bad idea for the European manufacturers to roll out electric cars with compatability across Europe?

    Or you think the EU encouraging this is bad?

    Electric cars are bad?

    Electric cars are good - and the standardization of charging stations etc..., is definately good - but the comission ordering e-car development to be subbed stinks big time.

    I suppose it was GM and Obama who set the precedent for this kind of thing first?

    If you want to catch up with the asians subbing companies is NOT the way to do it.


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    unkel
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    ESB? Bord Gais provide my leccy at a discount price. Maybe they have some cheap petrol for me too? :D


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    smash
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    yea electric cars would work out great in Ireland.... A country that produces it's electricity from burning fossil fuels!


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    JHMEG
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    testicle wrote: »
    Buy shares? We already own 95% of it....

    Remember Eircom? We owned that too until the govt floated it and got us to pay for it a 2nd time.
    unkel wrote:
    ESB? Bord Gais provide my leccy at a discount price.
    One state monopoly undercutting another. The ESB is prevented from undercutting its competitors... if they weren't we'd have even cheaper electricity (until the competition went bust and the ESB would be back to having the market to themselves)

    But I agree. We need to be innovative about power. Importing electricity from Scotland isn't innovative and neither is burning stuff.


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    Cookie_Monster
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    steve06 wrote: »
    yea electric cars would work out great in Ireland.... A country that produces it's electricity from burning fossil fuels!

    yes but powerplants are far far more efficient than individual cars so it would be a benefit, if only a small one. You could always buy Airtricity electricity :pac:


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    smash
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    Cookie_Monster wrote: »
    yes but powerplants are far far more efficient than individual cars so it would be a benefit, if only a small one. You could always buy Airtricity electricity :pac:

    You have to see what's going to be more environmentally friendly because that's the angle their pushing... so what is it? to continue using petrol, or to burn more fossil fuels to produce more electricity?


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    galwaytt
    Registered Users Posts: 12,761 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    Cookie_Monster wrote: »
    yes but "powerplants" are far far more efficient than individual cars so it would be a benefit, if only a small one. You could always buy Airtricity electricity :pac:


    ....a few things.....

    ....only some powerplants are efficient. Irish ones can't be. Not whilst we're burning coal...gas is cleaner, certainly, but is even more 'finite' than coal, so ploughing headlong into gas isn't exactly a long-term secure future.....the most efficient are the ones we're most scared of: fission......

    ....when I'm not using my car, it uses no fuel. A powerplant, on the other hand, can never be turned off, so it could be argued that the most efficient powerplant ........is still consuming just too much energy just to keep it awake....

    ....Airtricity. I like windmills. There are 79 of them viewable from the rear of my house, and I think they're majestic. But they're not perfect. They can never produce the volume of power we need, dynamically, and they're 'fuel source' driven, rather than demand-driven. Sometimes that's going to bite us.....and the last part.: I'm not sure, but I'd wager current Airtricity wind-energy does not satisfy the current no of Airtricity customers, and the difference is currently bought from.......the ESB. Which means it's not necessarily as green as you think. This is why the ASAI instructed them to remove the 'green' comment from their advertising campaigns lately. So longs as they buy-in 'non-green' power, they are not allowed to advertise being green(er) than anyone else.........

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



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    peasant
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    galwaytt wrote: »
    ....when I'm not using my car, it uses no fuel. A powerplant, on the other hand, can never be turned off, so it could be argued that the most efficient powerplant ........is still consuming just too much energy just to keep it awake....

    By the same argument it ought to be noted that the internal combustion engine, on top of its poor energery efficiency, also must be kept running to be kept "awake". Think of all the energy wasted while cars alternate between being stationary and creeping forward in rush hour traffic, the energy wasted whenever a car is braked yet it's engine is still burning pointless fuel just to be kept running. And then there would be all the energy needed to extract oil, refine petrol and distribute it


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