Quattro drivers will love this...

robbie99

Two 'identical' BMWs attempt to demonstrate effectiveness of winter tyres with snow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drOtBWhGxks

Mr.David

What a stupid comparison!!

SV

wtf, 'COMPLETELY IDENTICAL' ?!?
surely weight is going to be a bit of a factor here..

but eh..yeah I guess it does show a decent difference!

Anan1

Even the one on winter tyres put in a pretty poor performance, IMO.

An old Mark 3 Fiesta on RoadChamps would be a better vehicle on the snow

robbie99

SV wrote: »

wtf, 'COMPLETELY IDENTICAL' ?!?
surely weight is going to be a bit of a factor here..

but eh..yeah I guess it does show a decent difference!

'Completely identical' was said tongue in cheek and he did acknowledge the weight difference as well as the narrower tyres

I but I have to say, I can totally relate to Vicky's struggles

smash

robbie99 wrote: »

I but I have to say, I can totally relate to Vicky's struggles

Why, do you have a large jaw and a speech impediment too?

high horse

RoverJames wrote: »

An old Mark 3 Fiesta on RoadChamps would be a better vehicle on the snow

Not if the awful drivers from that video were driving! Do you need to be able to drive to be a motoring journalist or can anyone apply? :rolleyes:

Anan1

Sitec wrote: »

Stupid comparison is right. A woman driving the 6 series.

We don't need that rubbish here, thanks.

robbie99

Anan1 wrote: »

Even the one on winter tyres put in a pretty poor performance, IMO.

+1

The 6er especially could have done with a load in the boot. Sand bags, crates of beer, toolboxes, anything heavy.

Matt Simis

But they didnt test Winters, just All Seasons...

peasant

What are "cold weather tyres" now ?

swe_fi

Like these

These are without studs:

http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/com/en/gislaved/automobile/themes/pc_tyres/winter/soft_frost_2/benefits_softfrost_2_en.html

These are with:

http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/com/en/gislaved/automobile/themes/pc_tyres/winter/nord_frost_5/technical_details_nf5_en.html

There is a law in Sweden that you have to put them on, think it is in November, you have to have winter tyres, studded or studless. In Germany studs are forbidden (I just know so I thought i'd share it)

With any of the above that test would have been completely different, you can more or less drive like on tarmac with these tyres in snow/ice. I think the roads are different as well in the nordics, made from different kind of rock-base (could be wrong about that).

peasant

swe_fi wrote: »

Like these

nope ..there is no such thing as a "cold weather tyre" ..that's just lazy journalism in the report.

The only tyres that will bring a real advantage in wintery conditions are called "winter tyres" and are recognisable by this symbol on the sidewall:



So called "all weather" or "all season" tyres have been found to be almost as useless as summer tyres in most independent winter tests. (Plus they're worse than summer tyres in the dry as well)

Matt Simis

peasant wrote: »

So called "all weather" or "all season" tyres have been found to be almost as useless as summer tyres in most independent winter tests. (Plus they're worse than summer tyres in the dry as well)

Agreed, I had a set of All Seasons and they performed exactly the same as Summers in cold weather, complete waste of time. Dont understand why they didnt use Winters in the test, it was like they werent even aware of their difference to All Seasons.

swe_fi

peasant wrote: »

nope ..there is no such thing as a "cold weather tyre" ..that's just lazy journalism in the report.

The only tyres that will bring a real advantage in wintery conditions are called "winter tyres" and are recognisable by this symbol on the sidewall:

So called "all weather" or "all season" tyres have been found to be almost as useless as summer tyres in most independent winter tests. (Plus they're worse than summer tyres in the dry as well)

I hate correcting people (and i actually thought you were right) but at least Continental call them "Cold Weather tyres", they could be wrong though.

http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/uk/en/continental/automobile/themes/car_tyres/cold_weather_tyres/why_cold_weather/why_cold_weather_en.html

Basically cold weather tyres contain more natural rubber that stays softer during colder temperature and has grooves cut in them.

I agree all weather tyres are rubbish

unkel

swe_fi wrote: »

but at least Continental call them "Cold Weather tyres"

Did you notice your link from Continental tyres is aimed at the UK? Like us, they only occasionally have a bit of cold weather. Change country on the Continental website to anywhere on the continent that gets a bit of snow more often than once every 50 years or so (i.e. Germany) and you'll find they only sell summer or winter tyres. Non of this "Cold Weather tyres" malarky

peasant

swe_fi wrote: »

I hate correcting people (and i actually thought you were right) but at least Continental call them "Cold Weather tyres", they could be wrong though.

That must be a UK/Ireland specific marketing excercise:D

As on these Islands we normally don't have anything resembling proper winter, winter tyres must be a bit of a hard sell

EDIT ...what unkel said

the_syco

Is it just me, or did the red car not wheel spin faster than the blue car? The wheels on the red automatic car seemed to be going slightly faster in the second "test", than the wheels on the blue car...

swe_fi

For Ireland maybe if the called them "Bad Weather tyres" that would sell

unkel

swe_fi wrote: »

For Ireland maybe if the called them "Bad Weather tyres" that would sell

Keep the day job - a career in marketing is not for you

thethedev

So what this comparison tells us that winter tyres are better in snow than summer tyres?
My god really, I'm so glad they performed this test /sarcasm

jimmycrackcorm

woman driver + high torque 6 series vs man in lighter 1 series != fair comparison.

Vertakill

What a waste of time and money for everyone involved.

The obviously worse car with the worst tires vs the obviously better car with the somewhat better tires.

Autocar gone down another notch..