Man claimed pension of dead friend for 23 years

Run_to_da_hills

"A man received almost €140,000 after fraudulently claiming the pension of a dead acquaintance for more than two decades, a court heard yesterday.

The scam only came to light when a social welfare official called to the dead man's house to organise a special payment for what would have been his 100th birthday"

In future if anyone else is thinking of pulling this scam make sure that the pensioner "dies" on their 99th birthday.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/man-claimed-pension-of-dead-friend-for-23-years-2014998.html

Gran Hermano

Time to introduce thumb/finger print scanners for all SW claimants.

phantom_lord

Gran Hermano wrote: »

Time to introduce thumb/finger print scanners for all SW claimants.

that's what they want you to say. it would an affront to our civil liberties!!!!111!!!

Little Acorn

Reminds me of this story:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6525599.ece

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2486732/Son-dressed-as-mum-to-claim-benefits.html

I can't believe that a grown man could get away with this dress up disguise for 6 years!

partyatmygaff

Gran Hermano wrote: »

Time to introduce thumb/finger print scanners for all SW claimants.

Wait until RTDH gets word of this!












Then again, he probably already knows.

Mrmoe

Gran Hermano wrote: »

Time to introduce thumb/finger print scanners for all SW claimants.

This would be good to introduce but I don't think that alone would solve the problem. We would need a centralised database with information on every person with lots of different types of information such as birth certs, death certs, criminal record, finger prints, DNA samples etc. This would be quite good and could be used to track down criminals quickly and efficiently.

Someone at the local post office must have been in on it, after all the old man was a local as well.

dylano_k

Mrmoe wrote: »

This would be good to introduce but I don't think that alone would solve the problem. We would need a centralised database with information on every person with lots of different types of information such as birth certs, death certs, criminal record, finger prints, DNA samples etc. This would be quite good and could be used to track down criminals quickly and efficiently.

Yeh and have to jack it into a jar at the signing on hatch while were at it

PeteEd

Quality
Give them an inch and they'll take a mile....

Note to self, don't wear me Ma's clothes and don't forget me Da's 100th birthday!

The_Kew_Tour

he was a clever man till caught.

Run_to_da_hills

Gran Hermano wrote: »

Time to introduce thumb/finger print scanners for all SW claimants.

It would be fun to watch the fingerprint Gestapo with their mobile scanners calling into all the bedridden pensioners residing in nursing homes across the country on pension day..

daca88

he was known to staff in the post office, yet they still didn't figure out it was him claiming a dead mans pension? idots....

ynotdu

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

"A man received almost €140,000 after fraudulently claiming the pension of a dead acquaintance for more than two decades, a court heard yesterday.

The scam only came to light when a social welfare official called to the dead man's house to organise a special payment for what would have been his 100th birthday"

In future if anyone else is thinking of pulling this scam make sure that the pensioner "dies" on their 99th birthday.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/man-claimed-pension-of-dead-friend-for-23-years-2014998.html

So You cant take it with You????
Who says ya can't delegate?:pac::pac:

ynotdu

daca88 wrote: »

he was known to staff in the post office, yet they still didn't figure out it was him claiming a dead mans pension? idots....

Post office staff are not there to do the work of paid fraud inspectors.
They would proably get a bullet if they tried.

ynotdu

mikemac wrote: »

Say no more

Misinformed Snobbery to to single out one postal address as being more fraudulant than another,You would be surprised.........................

mikemac

Well true, An Post are contracted to do this work for social welfare. An Post don't have much incentive to report fraudsters.

mikemac

ynotdu wrote: »

Misinformed Snobbery to to single out one postal address as being more fraudulant than another,You would be surprised.........................

Only postal address listed in that article
I didn't mention any other district, town or county and neither did the article so I didn't single out anywhere

ascanbe

I'd imagine those who have displayed their indignation regarding the Pamela Izevbekhai case on many, many threads here, will be outraged by this, will keep an eagle eye on this case, bring it up again and again and continue to make it known that they wish his punishment to be as stern as possible.
Many will, no doubt, make it their business to continually launch keyboard assualts on him and some may even go so far as to 'jokingly' wish physical harm on him and his extended family.
I doubt it, though; this case of 'fraud'(I emphasise 'fraud' because the Izevhekhai case is still being dealt with by the courts), probably just doesn't have the ingredients needed to bring them to the boil.
Personally I think this is a good thing; this man is being dealt with by authorities.
When all is said and done, if his punishment isn't to the liking of some people, i hope they engage in a discussion as to what the outcome should have been and what should be done to ensure that the next case of this kind will be treated differently.
At least this was left until the person was actually definitively found to have done what accussed of.

ynotdu

mikemac wrote: »

Only postal address listed in that article
I didn't mention any other district, town or county and neither did the article so I didn't single out anywhere

That postal code covers only one area,anything unwanted like Cloverhill prison was added to it as one small example........................

ynotdu

mikemac wrote: »

Well true, An Post are contracted to do this work for social welfare. An Post don't have much incentive to report fraudsters.

An post are only required to pay what the Swipe cards tell them.NO responsibility beyond that nor should they have!

The Dept tells their computers what and who to pay.

dubtom

It's a fairly normal thing to have nominee's collect OA pensions.Now a consent form signed by both parties is needed but back when this guy started and if known to the post office worker it would have been no problem.I often collected my Mother's widows pension years ago,she was known to the post master but even though the same guy is still there I doubt if I could walk in off the street and collect without written consent now.

ynotdu

dubtom wrote: »

It's a fairly normal thing to have nominee's collect OA pensions.Now a consent form signed by both parties is needed but back when this guy started and if known to the post office worker it would have been no problem.I often collected my Mother's widows pension years ago,she was known to the post master but even though the same guy is still there I doubt if I could walk in off the street and collect without written consent now.

You are 100% correct there dubtom!:)