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Boiler Stove Selection

  • 14-01-2010 2:24pm
    #1
    Home Improver
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5 ✭


    I'd like your opinion on which boiler multi-fuel stove to buy.
    I need 4 KW of room heat and I need to heat 7 rads + water cylinder. I may add 2 more rads sometime later but not now.
    Some of the dealers say that the medium stoves are very poor for room heat. Is this true. I'm interested to hear your experience. Also if the brochure says it will give 4 KW to room - is that at max when it's packed with coal. Also if the brochure says it will heat 8 rads - does it. I don't want something that we need to keep feeding non stop all day to get a performance. Room heat is the preference. Does anyone know anything about the Blacksmith Bellows or Forge. Or the Glenregan. What do you recommend. Please comment on fuel consumption. Chow


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  • #2
    demanufactured
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭demanufactured


    They all need to be kept fed a good bit to keep rads hot, and yes a good coal fire makes all the difference.


  • #3
    tojo23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 ✭tojo23


    i want to buy a boiler stove to heat a room which is 3.5 x 3.5 x 2.9 high. i'm told i need between 2 and 3 kw to heat this room.

    i also have 8 radiators (2 doubles) in the house.

    i'm between buying a stanley ERIN (6kw to room, 9 rads) and TARA (2kw to room 5/6 rads)

    would 6 kw be too hot for room and we'd be in tee shirts with windows open?

    any other ideas on different brands or stove that would suit me.

    i saw charnwood slx45fs on net but its expensive.

    tnx


  • #4
    volvo 240
    Closed Accounts Posts: 50 ✭✭volvo 240


    I take no notice of the number of rads that a stove seller that quotes the number of rads that it would run, but the output of the boiler in BTU's so 30,000btu's is around 9kw. The average sized radiator is 5,000btu so 6 average sized radiators. To find out the boiler output required that you need you could measure the existing radiators and check if they are doubles or single rads and double convector or single convector and look them up on the net on a radiator pamphlet and see what the outputs are for each one approximately. Add the rad outputs up and add 10,000btu for hot water if you want it to run the hot water.
    If the stove output to the room is too low you could install a radiator in there too. Better than being too hot!!
    The boiler output fiqures quoted would be using solid fuel.

    We heat our radiators in Northwest France with a villager AHI woodburning stove and we heat 11 radiators from it. Our required radiator load is 12.6kw and the stove boiler is 13kw so at its maximum output.
    The stove is in a large room 5.2m by 6.68 by 3.4 ceiling (old Schoolroom) and it does get quite hot, (open the hall door)
    We find just burning wood is perfectly good, the rads can get so hot as to not be able to touch them. Had the stove for 2 winters now. The villager AHI was bought in the UK new for 780 pounds. http://www.villager.co.uk/usefulinfo.php
    http://www.stovesonline.co.uk/ for stoves. Some villager models not listed.
    We are going to fit either a villager stove or a parkray in our Irish home. James.:)


  • #5
    tojo23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 ✭tojo23


    tnx james.

    good advice and links.


  • #6
    Joe94
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 ✭Joe94


    volvo 240 wrote: »
    I take no notice of the number of rads that a stove seller that quotes the number of rads that it would run, but the output of the boiler in BTU's so 30,000btu's is around 9kw. The average sized radiator is 5,000btu so 6 average sized radiators. To find out the boiler output required that you need you could measure the existing radiators and check if they are doubles or single rads and double convector or single convector and look them up on the net on a radiator pamphlet and see what the outputs are for each one approximately. Add the rad outputs up and add 10,000btu for hot water if you want it to run the hot water.
    If the stove output to the room is too low you could install a radiator in there too. Better than being too hot!!
    The boiler output fiqures quoted would be using solid fuel.

    We heat our radiators in Northwest France with a villager AHI woodburning stove and we heat 11 radiators from it. Our required radiator load is 12.6kw and the stove boiler is 13kw so at its maximum output.
    The stove is in a large room 5.2m by 6.68 by 3.4 ceiling (old Schoolroom) and it does get quite hot, (open the hall door)
    We find just burning wood is perfectly good, the rads can get so hot as to not be able to touch them. Had the stove for 2 winters now. The villager AHI was bought in the UK new for 780 pounds. http://www.villager.co.uk/usefulinfo.php
    http://www.stovesonline.co.uk/ for stoves. Some villager models not listed.
    We are going to fit either a villager stove or a parkray in our Irish home. James.:)
    Hi,

    I am thinking of installing a Mulberry Beckett stove and would like to know how often they need re-fueling when burning seasoned hardwood logs. I intend to heat 3-4 rads off it and my theory is that over an evening it would run comfortably if refuelled with 3-4 average sized logs every hour. Do you think my guess is close to the mark?

    If anybody has experience running one I would greatly appreciate some info.

    Thanks for any comments.
    Joe94.


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  • #7
    volvo 240
    Closed Accounts Posts: 50 ✭✭volvo 240


    Joe94 wrote: »
    Hi,

    I am thinking of installing a Mulberry Beckett stove and would like to know how often they need re-fueling when burning seasoned hardwood logs. I intend to heat 3-4 rads off it and my theory is that over an evening it would run comfortably if refuelled with 3-4 average sized logs every hour. Do you think my guess is close to the mark?

    If anybody has experience running one I would greatly appreciate some info.

    Thanks for any comments.
    Joe94.

    Depending on how big an output your rads are I would of thought you would use about what you say or less. I think less from using our stove, I would say 2 good sized logs an hour 15cm diameter plus. We use mixed wood softwood and hardwood and we use between 15-20 cubic metres over 7 months of heating but do have all of the 11 radiators on full. (20 cubic metres this winter) 4 rads have trv's and we have the fire lit virtually 24 hours a day and have the whole house heated to around 21-23 degrees. We like it hot!! I would at a guess think you would use around 7 to max 10 cubic metres over 7 months burning 24/7. I believe Ireland is normally milder than NW France so your consumption would be lower than here. If it was me I would think around 7 would be a good start to order. Any other question Just ask. James:)


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