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Clocked BMW

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  • 14-01-2010 1:11pm
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    Communicationb
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    Basically over Xmas I wrote off my car on black ice..no biggie..an old banger.

    So I picked up a 1996 BMW 320 saloon last week for €950.00. Great deal. Guy lost his job etc and wanted a quick sell and I needed a quick cheap buy.

    - NCT 9/2011
    - 82k miles
    - Was imported from UK originally but all paperwork etc in order.

    The car is going fine happy with it. Save it needs proper rear tyres and rear defroster and external ambient temp broken.

    Basically there is no way a 14 yr old BMW can have 82k IMO so I am pretty sure it is clocked.

    I have no problem with this as such I knew what I was getting into.

    Is there any way I can find out the true mileage on the OBC (on board computer)?

    ps It was a private deal.


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    EPM
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    It could be genuine. I love the way everyone thinks a low mileage car is automatically clocked. Newer BMW's can have their key checked for mileage. I don't know about E36's. My sis has a 4 year old car with 25k km on it. By the time it will be 14 years old at this rate it will have less mileage than yours. You may have just bought a good un:D


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    robbie99
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    Arguably there's no way a bmw can last 14 years without having low mileage.


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    smash
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    I have a 97 car with genuine 70k on the clock. My mother has an old megane lying around that she bought new in 98, it has 55k on the clock! there's no reason the mileage can't be real....


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    unkel
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    Communicationb wrote: »
    - Was imported from UK originally but all paperwork etc in order.

    Did you run a full HPI check on it?


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    Anan1
    Registered Users Posts: 22,818 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    OP - Did you check the service history? If so, that should back up the mileage - if not, I wouldn't put the mileage at the top of my worry list.;)


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    Communicationb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 147 ✭✭Communicationb


    EPM wrote: »
    It could be genuine. I love the way everyone thinks a low mileage car is automatically clocked. Newer BMW's can have their key checked for mileage. I don't know about E36's. My sis has a 4 year old car with 25k km on it. By the time it will be 14 years old at this rate it will have less mileage than yours. You may have just bought a good un:D


    Okay did some research...

    The car was imported into Ireland in January 2006 with 82,768 miles on the clock.

    It had just over 82,800 when I picked it up last week....:mad:

    So basically the last 4 years of driving in Ireland have been written off. I know the guy I bought it from bought it from a mechanic in Waterford..I bought it in Kerry..

    Is there any way to check on the computers?

    ps It actually doesnt bother me just curious..


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    Mr Benevolent
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    Meh, you paid €950 for it. Still a reasonable price for a 140,000 mile car.


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    Communicationb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 147 ✭✭Communicationb


    Confab wrote: »
    Meh, you paid €950 for it. Still a reasonable price for a 140,000 mile car.


    Oh yeah...I have no quibbles. I got what I paid for and it's driving perfectly just curiosity getting the better of me that's all.:)


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    congo_90
    Registered Users Posts: 2,339 ✭✭✭congo_90


    I've a 1990 jaguar xj6 with 18,000 genuine miles on it.
    My sister drivers a 95' Micra with 67,000 miles on it

    Still for 950 then why not.


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    Anan1
    Registered Users Posts: 22,818 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    Confab wrote: »
    Meh, you paid €950 for it. Still a reasonable price for a 140,000 mile car.
    Quite true. My main worry at this stage would be whether it's been serviced at all during the past four years.


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    no1beemerfan
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    congo_90 wrote: »
    I've a 1990 jaguar xj6 with 18,000 genuine miles on it.

    Pics please!! :)


    Would the NCT have any details on cars they test kept on record...like milage at tests etc as it should've been NCT'd at least twice since it was brought into Ireland?


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    EPM
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    no1beemerfan wrote: »
    Pics please!! :)

    +1:D


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    Harcrid
    Registered Users Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭Harcrid


    Communicationb wrote: »
    Oh yeah...I have no quibbles. I got what I paid for and it's driving perfectly just curiosity getting the better of me that's all.:)

    While it was not a big deal in this case, I hope you have learned to do all your research BEFORE you buy your next car. You might not be so lucky with the next car.


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    keithg89
    Registered Users Posts: 222 ✭✭keithg89


    as far as i know there is a small light at the end of the speedo that comes on if someone tries to clock it. At least there is on my one. I take it its a digital odometer?


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    gofaster_s13
    Registered Users Posts: 942 ✭✭✭gofaster_s13


    We have a 1999 Micra that comes into the garage with 9000 genuine miles on it, just because mileage is low doesnt mean its clocked:D


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    JHMEG
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,686 ✭✭✭JHMEG


    Anan1 wrote: »
    Quite true. My main worry at this stage would be whether it's been serviced at all during the past four years.

    At that price I wouldn't care if it had never been serviced. As long as it's running well and keeps running well what does it matter.


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    Abelloid
    Registered Users Posts: 3,495 ✭✭✭Abelloid


    JHMEG wrote: »
    At that price I wouldn't care if it had never been serviced. As long as it's running well and keeps running well what does it matter.

    Servicing is what makes it run well, and keeps it running well.


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    enol
    Registered Users Posts: 57 ✭✭enol


    JustinOval wrote: »
    Servicing is what makes it run well, and keeps it running well.
    +1


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    Seth Brundle
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    gofaster_s13 wrote: »
    We have a 1999 Micra that comes into the garage with 9000 genuine miles on it, just because mileage is low doesnt mean its clocked:D
    Does it come in with that mileage on it each time. :D


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    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Communicationb wrote: »
    Basically over Xmas I wrote off my car on black ice..no biggie..an old banger.

    So I picked up a 1996 BMW 320 saloon last week for €950.00. Great deal. Guy lost his job etc and wanted a quick sell and I needed a quick cheap buy.

    - NCT 9/2011
    - 82k miles
    - Was imported from UK originally but all paperwork etc in order.

    The car is going fine happy with it. Save it needs proper rear tyres and rear defroster and external ambient temp broken.

    Basically there is no way a 14 yr old BMW can have 82k IMO so I am pretty sure it is clocked.

    I have no problem with this as such I knew what I was getting into.

    Is there any way I can find out the true mileage on the OBC (on board computer)?

    ps It was a private deal.

    Of couse it could be genuine. EDIT obviously not since you checked, but it very much could have been.

    I've a 10 yeart ol Xantia sitting outside with 65k ish on it with a full verified history.


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    mick.fr
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    It might be clocked alright. But as many said this is not because a car is old it has to have lots of mileage. My 1998 BMW 5 series just passed 80000 miles the last week. And they are genuine, backed up by a few kg of paper, worth of service history.

    Run a scan on it, on the e36, I am not sure if mileage is stored on light control modules etc like on newer cars. Someone might be able to shed some light here.


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    qz
    Registered Users Posts: 8,753 ✭✭✭qz


    My Alfa is 1999 and has only around 24000 miles on it! Genuine too, it's been in the family since new. I took this picture back in the summer.

    dsc00357d.jpg


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    mullingar
    Registered Users Posts: 5,341 ✭✭✭mullingar


    qz wrote: »
    My Alfa is 1999 and has only around 24000 miles on it! Genuine too, it's been in the family since new. I took this picture back in the summer.

    dsc00357d.jpg

    Has it been in a garage for repairs 11 months of every year since new?

    (Thats crazy low mileage)


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    qz
    Registered Users Posts: 8,753 ✭✭✭qz


    mullingar wrote: »
    Has it been in a garage for repairs 11 months of every year since new?

    (Thats crazy low mileage)

    No. :rolleyes:

    It was just never driven.


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    JHMEG
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,686 ✭✭✭JHMEG


    qz wrote: »
    No. :rolleyes:

    It was just never driven.

    Cos the Sellafield gearbox lost all its gears?

    Only joking. ;)


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    ShadowHearth
    Registered Users Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    congo_90 wrote: »
    I've a 1990 jaguar xj6 with 18,000 genuine miles on it.
    My sister drivers a 95' Micra with 67,000 miles on it

    Still for 950 then why not.

    pics or it didnt happened :D


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    unkel
    Registered Users Posts: 65,012 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    542.8 miles on a tank of petrol is impressive too ;)


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    Absurdum
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    Communicationb wrote: »
    Okay did some research...

    The car was imported into Ireland in January 2006 with 82,768 miles on the clock.

    It had just over 82,800 when I picked it up last week....:mad:

    So basically the last 4 years of driving in Ireland have been written off. I know the guy I bought it from bought it from a mechanic in Waterford..I bought it in Kerry..

    punch him in the nose for being a big fat liar!


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    cascade35
    Closed Accounts Posts: 229 ✭✭cascade35


    Is there any garage stickers on the car ie on the back window etc or is there a garage name printed on the bottom of number plate?
    If so contact them and they may have a record of milage if they done any work on the car.
    All said and done it seems you got a nice car for the money.


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    Abelloid
    Registered Users Posts: 3,495 ✭✭✭Abelloid


    qz wrote: »
    No. :rolleyes:

    It was just never driven.

    Wouldn't start?


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