Savage Sounds

PaulBrewer

My inclination is to be more interested in songs than sounds but every so often you hear a sound and think it's very cool.

The 'mwah mwah' sound that starts Matt Cooper's Last Word Jingle is one.
Another one was the guitar sound from Kaiser Chief's 'Ruby'


Anything catch your ears ?

ZV Yoda

Yeah, I hear stuff like that all the time... one song in particular - U2's "So Cruel" (from Achtung Baby) - has 2 sounds that stand out for me:

1. Snare drum sound (I think it has a phaser or something on it)
2. The bass (or is it a synth?) that comes in a 2:00 (you won't hear it on PC speakers)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6snI72LGfP4

Dunno why... always loved those 2 sounds (not a bad song either)

BumbleB

the intro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U5HpeA_WSo

PaulBrewer

BumbleB wrote: »

the intro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U5HpeA_WSo

Yes ! A classic !!

Fender Twin Tremelo hand matched and dropped in onto tape.

BumbleB

PaulBrewer wrote: »

Yes ! A classic !!

Fender Twin Tremelo hand matched and dropped in onto tape.

With a generous helping of the bo diddely strum.

eoin5

Anytime I listen to prince

krd

ZV Yoda wrote: »

Yeah, I hear stuff like that all the time... one song in particular - U2's "So Cruel" (from Achtung Baby) - has 2 sounds that stand out for me:

1. Snare drum sound (I think it has a phaser or something on it)
2. The bass (or is it a synth?) that comes in a 2:00 (you won't hear it on PC speakers)

Dunno why... always loved those 2 sounds (not a bad song either)

That bass sound. I could never figure out whether it's sequenced or he's playing it. You can only hear it on speakers with decent bass.

artvandulet

PaulBrewer wrote: »

Yes ! A classic !!

Fender Twin Tremelo hand matched and dropped in onto tape.

The non vibrato guitar was played back through 4 twins with vibrato.

Here's a great site with the lowdown on lots of The Smiths guitar work...

http://smithsonguitar.blogspot.com/2008/09/how-soon-is-now.html

rcaz

The drum sound in Race For The Prize by The Flaming Lips

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mMC5CWTT0s

bedbugs

El Pr0n wrote: »

The drum sound in Race For The Prize by The Flaming Lips

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mMC5CWTT0s

+1.

BumbleB

Its not really a savage sound now ,but I'm sure in 1960 hearing it for the first time you would have went whaaaa ?. The sound is panned for maximum effect ,great song .

The intro again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6nJnPVdml4

krd

The noise sound, with the arpeggator, on NIN's March of the pigs. You need to hear it on decent speakers.

I like the E-bow sound on REM's 'E-bow the letter'

Massive Attack - Tear drop. the kick and the rim shot with the crackle from what ever record they sample it from.

The bassline on Air's Sexy boy. In fact the entire moon safari is full of really great sounds.

Air have claimed that all the strings on Moon Safari were created using a Solina. Which I find very hard to believe. But it's what they claim. Is it possible to do some black magic with a solina to make it sound like real strings?

BumbleB

krd wrote: »

Massive Attack - Tear drop. the kick and the rim shot with the crackle from what ever record they sample it from.

Air have claimed that all the strings on Moon Safari were created using a Solina. Which I find very hard to believe. But it's what they claim. Is it possible to do some black magic with a solina to make it sound like real strings?

excellent call , I believe pink floyd used the solina as well.What about the synced clocks at the start of time ?.

ZV Yoda

+1 for Teardrop... great tune too.

Also, the intro on this... anybody know what it is - the wavy keyboard sound... sounds like a Mellotron or something? Just listening to that takes me back to the 90s!...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DikWW4pOehk

krd

"Hook" sounds in a song can really make it. Really transform it.

Like Dire Straits Romeo and Juliet - The national guitar or Dobro really makes the riff. If you play the riff on an ordinary guitar it sounds nothing like anything really. But that Dobro sound makes it.

Same with the guitar riff for Money for nothing.

I would like to categorically state - I'm not a straits fan - just really like those guitar bits.

PaulBrewer

krd wrote: »

Same with the guitar riff for Money for nothing.

I would like to categorically state - I'm not a straits fan - just really like those guitar bits.

Les Paul with the tone wound back ...

krd

PaulBrewer wrote: »

Les Paul with the tone wound back ...

And...I'm told. BOSS's first digital distortion pedal. The low bitrate supposedly gives it the extra crunchy sound.

Though what I think really makes the riff work, is the widdly Floydesque build up, that suddenly stops and the riff comes in.

It also makes me think of the riff on Honky Tonky women. The way, it's just voice, little drums, and guitar, for the first verse.

madtheory

ZV Yoda, not sure which part you mean on Teardrop. But there is Mellotron choir in there alright

Race for the Prize drums is overdriving the mic pres on the Studer desk. You can get something very close by using too much Waves L1.

krd, on Dire Straits, there's no bitrate, the Boss pedal is entirely analogue. The engineer often explains in interviews that he used two SM57s on the amp, and could never recreate the positioning. There was some static comb filtering going on that made the sound. Interview was in Sound on Sound I think.

Other lads: There are real strings on Moon Safari, but also lots of Solina, sometimes on the same song. The real ones were recorded at Abbey Road, the arranger's name escapes me. Classy stuff. They're very good players so they get a lot of expression on the Solina. But to my ear there's a clear difference between real and stringer!

Sexy boy bassline is the Syrinx, with its dual filters. Kelly Watch the Stars is a single oscillator synth, I've got the same tone on a Yamaha CS-10 and on a Korg MS-20. I'm guessing they used the Korg, but could be a MiniMoog too. To get it right you need to do a little manual filter cutoff mod.

11811

I love the backward string sounds at about 2.25 in this...
And the guitar sound afterwards - they're not particularly groundbreaking or anything but I think they sound great.

And then of course there is that sound at 0.59 on this...

stateofflux

ennio morricone in the good, the bad and the ugly graveyard scene....

you can hear somebody kicking a spring reverb amp for effect ....genius...

my other faves include...

-Korg prophecy craziness in smack my bitch up (the tubey growl off that keyboard is untouchable)
- bass sound on 'disorder' by joy division....should'nt work but its ****ing class....
- most of daniel ashes guitar oddities in bauhaus
- nirvana radio friendly unit shifter rotovibe feedback intro...
- oh and i have never heard a guitar flanger effect this good live before have you?....wait until :42 seconds in....mad **** :pac::pac::pac:...

jiltloop

I love the sound of the bass in this song at about 1.36. Love the whole album but that bass sound is just beautiful.

BumbleB

Apparently when "relax " was recorded they were sampling people pissing and all sorts of weird **** into the synclaviar.Trevor Horn was doodling around on guitar and someone recorded it and it became the solo for the song.



* It would seem I am talking through my behind

PaulBrewer

BumbleB wrote: »

Apparently

Trevor Horn plays bass - his engineer then, Steve Lipson is a guitar player ...

BumbleB

PaulBrewer wrote: »

Trevor Horn plays bass - his engineer then, Steve Lipson is a guitar player ...

I decree that you are right , No flies on you ,Paul .

woodsdenis

PaulBrewer wrote: »

Trevor Horn plays bass - his engineer then, Steve Lipson is a guitar player ...

On the FGTH album a lot of the guitar is Steve Howe of Yes fame.

BumbleB

woodsdenis wrote: »

On the FGTH album a lot of the guitar is Steve Howe of Yes fame.

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/apr08/articles/classictracks_0408.htm

mattfender

Kit and Guitar...

If im right kit sounds insanely compressed and or loud room with amplified room mics...? Or could be just EZ Drummer:pac:

Guitar...nothing wrong with a good bit of 'drop whatever that is' tuning and lots of overdrive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey74Q4ezKlU

Not really a big fan of band but the snare sound in this I heart. Also the kick dynamics are great.
Read article in sound on sound that was posted here that their producer Jacquire King used a transformerless SM57 on snare.
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/dec08/articles/it_king.htm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oayv_JWCpY

And any white lies song.

Also the guitar riff in braniac...sounds awesome

rcaz

Ooh, the drums and chords in Idioteque by Radiohead. The drums are done with an Analogue Systems RS Integrator modular synth, and the chords are sampled from a Paul Lansky piece...

So yeah, the drums from Idioteque by Radiohead, and the FM sound in Paul Lansky's Mild und Leise.

krd

Two killers.

The guitar sound/riff on the Stone Roses Fool's Gold.

And the guitar riff on the Happy Mondays' Step on (Which I could never replicate - no matter how hard I tried)

BumbleB

Keith Richards tone on any rolling stones song.:)

PaulBrewer

krd wrote: »

Two killers.

The guitar sound/riff on the Stone Roses Fool's Gold.

And the guitar riff on the Happy Mondays' Step on (Which I could never replicate - no matter how hard I tried)

Always loved Step On - yer man always had the cool riffs.

krd

PaulBrewer wrote: »

Always loved Step On - yer man always had the cool riffs.

I could never replicate it - it drove me %^$%^$ing nuts

alan kelly

+ 1 for diana ross and the supremes "Reflections" .Also one of my favorite tunes of all time..

eoin5

The sound that the start of Echoes is class. Made by amping a piano through a leslie rotating speaker.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6iwrBlb1Bo&feature=related