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Pigs milk

  • 11-01-2010 9:40pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭


    So, as the title suggests, why do we shun the milk of swine?

    Health reasons? Or is it just a western preference, such that there are some cultures that might value the milk of swine. I don't know if they do, but perhaps you may.

    I would have few qualms, were the beasts properly milked.

    Would you?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,425 ✭✭✭FearDark


    Hogwash!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    The title doesn't suggest anything like what you claim it does.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,215 ✭✭✭Mrmoe


    Why not does or bitches? I guess pigs are more adapted for meat production just like certain breeds of cows are. Cows probably give a higher milk yield I would imagine and they have less tits thus making the process more streamlined.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭Aodan83


    Maybe it has something to do with cows producing more milk, making it easier and cheaper to produce. Pig milk just doesnt make sense economically for farmers. Although if you wanna milk a pig, don't let us stop you. Milk as many pigs as you want you strange, strange person!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,276 ✭✭✭Alessandra


    I think it's because they are so close to the ground and hard to reach. and have so many teats it would prove awkward and also hygeine is probably a major issue. How do you keep a pig still long enough to milk it? Maybe it doesn't taste great? I am open to correction...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭Hellm0


    Alessandra wrote: »
    I think it's because they are so close to the ground and hard to reach. and have so many teats it would proove awkward and also hygeine is probably a major issue. How do you keep a pig still long enough to milk it? Maybe it doesn't taste great? I am open to correction...

    Goats are lowly, wily creatures also, yet there are those who would claim that their pungent cheese makes up for the extra effort.

    Perhaps pig cheese is nice? I have no intentions of testing this theory, but I would love to hear from an authority on the matter.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭Abi


    Hellm0 wrote: »
    So, as the title suggests, why do we shun the milk of swine?

    Health reasons? Or is it just a western preference, such that there are some cultures that might value the milk of swine. I don't know if they do, but perhaps you may.

    I would have few qualms, were the beasts properly milked.

    Would you?

    Well thats tonights quota of weird sorted.


    Wheres Pighead when you need him?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭Hellm0


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    The title doesn't suggest anything like what you claim it does.

    That, sir, is a matter of opinion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,756 ✭✭✭InkSlinger67


    Abigayle wrote: »
    Wheres Pighead when you need him?

    Milking himself?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,408 ✭✭✭Captain_Generic


    Mrmoe wrote: »
    Why not does or bitches? I guess pigs are more adapted for meat production just like certain breeds of cows are. Cows probably give a higher I would imagine and they have less tits thus making the process more streamlined.

    At least two parts of this make no sense


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭easyeason3


    Dairy cows are more profitable, managable & calmer than any pig would ever be.
    Pigs are dangerous little feckers when they get going whereas cows are just too big & lazy to take you on.

    Anyway everyone knows that milk comes from a carton :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 889 ✭✭✭Bajingo


    Their udders are to close to the ground..yuck!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,276 ✭✭✭Alessandra


    Hellm0 wrote: »
    Goats are wily creatures also, yet there are those who would claim that their pungent cheese makes up for the extra effort.

    My family used to rear goats. They are actually quite milkable. They need to have a kid to produce well though. You can tie them and milk away but watch your face or you will be kicked.

    Goats milk(to me tastes vile as does cows milk) but it is a nutritious alternative to those intolerant to cows milk and you can buy it in the supermarket these days.

    Pigs milk is not even contemplated. High fat content presumably?
    Aren't pigs omnivores as well? Maybe their diet would make the milk unsuitable?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭Hellm0


    easyeason3 wrote: »
    Dairy cows are more profitable, managable & calmer than any pig would ever be.
    Pigs are dangerous little feckers when they get going whereas cows are just too big & lazy to take you on.

    Anyway everyone knows that milk comes from a carton :D

    So what you are saying is we need to sedate the beasts?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    Hellm0 wrote: »
    That, sir, is a matter of opinion.
    No. It's a matter of fact.

    The title is " Pigs milk" and you claim that it suggests "why do we shun the milk of swine?".

    It does not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 619 ✭✭✭Dj Stiggie


    I read on the Sky News website recently that camel milk is the next big thing...

    As for pig's milk, its possibly because pigs are always regarded as dirty animals, with a lot cultures not even eating pig meat


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭Ann22


    I found this reply to your question...

    Porcine do lactate and their milk I will assume would taste great, because it is made of 8.5% fat in relation to the fat that makes up 3.5% of the components in cows milk. The other components such as lactose and water are found at nearly the same percentages in pig's milk. However, pigs will on average produce 13 lbs of milk in a day as compared to cows that produce 65 lbs of milk on average per day. Pigs unlike cows cannot become pregnant while lactating and therefore possess a severe economic problem to producers. while pigs consume less feed per day, economics does not allow pigs to be a viable source of dairy products.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭Hellm0


    Ann22 wrote: »
    I found this reply to your question...

    Porcine do lactate and their milk I will assume would taste great, because it is made of 8.5% fat in relation to the fat that makes up 3.5% of the components in cows milk. The other components such as lactose and water are found at nearly the same percentages in pig's milk. However, pigs will on average produce 13 lbs of milk in a day as compared to cows that produce 65 lbs of milk on average per day. Pigs unlike cows cannot become pregnant while lactating and therefore possess a severe economic problem to producers. while pigs consume less feed per day, economics does not allow pigs to be a viable source of dairy products.

    But as a boutique product there is hope?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭easyeason3


    Hellm0 wrote: »
    So what you are saying is we need to sedate the beasts?

    No you can't sedate them because if you do then any milk you do get from them will have to be dumped as it won't be fit for consumption.

    Also in the film Hannibal, you know the one with the human raisin in an electric wheelchair? Well it was no coincidence that he kept pigs so he could feed them his enemies.
    They are vicious, dirty animals that should only be used between two slices of bread as a crispy rasher or boiled with cabbage if that takes your fancy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭m@cc@


    Fat Tony: "I don't understand it, people like pigs but they don't like the pig's milk?"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭Hellm0


    easyeason3 wrote: »
    No you can't sedate them because if you do then any milk you do get from them will have to be dumped as it won't be fit for consumption.
    Touche
    easyeason3 wrote: »
    Also in the film Hannibal, you know the one with the human raisin in an electric wheelchair? Well it was no coincidence that he kept pigs so he could feed them his enemies.

    I do remember that scene well - I will on occasion still be heard mimicking said Raisins calls for help to "Cordell!!!"
    easyeason3 wrote: »
    They are vicious, dirty animals that should only be used between two slices of bread as a crispy rasher or boiled with cabbage if that takes your fancy.

    It does, but good bacon is difficult to come by here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭Hellm0


    m@cc@ wrote: »
    Fat Tony: "I don't understand it, people like pigs but they don't like the pig's milk?"

    "I was promised Dog or higher!" - Mayor Quimby


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭Ann22


    Hellm0 wrote: »
    But as a boutique product there is hope?
    What do you mean? Like something exclusive? I dunno, prob not..pigs eat crappy stuff, like gone off potatoes and they probably eat their own poo too, they roll in it anyway. I don't like pigs, scary b*stards. They eat their own babies too if you're not there to take the newborns away while they're in labour,...
    Have any of you ever tasted human milk? I did:o, it was only a teeny drop on my fingertip and it was my own. Light and slightly sweet. I wouldn't make a habit of it tho', I don't like to recycle myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,215 ✭✭✭Mrmoe


    At least two parts of this make no sense

    Please elaborate?:confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭easyeason3


    Hellm0 wrote: »
    Touche



    I do remember that scene well - I will on occasion still be heard mimicking said Raisins calls for help to "Cordell!!!"



    It does, but good bacon is difficult to come by here.

    So buy a few piglets & rear them yourself to kill & eat.
    Apparently it's fashionable now to have a chicken coup out the back for the eggs, a herb garden & a few drills of spuds & veg.
    Add in a few piglets & before you know it Nationwide will be on your doorstep looking to record a piece on you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭Ann22


    easyeason3 wrote: »

    Also in the film Hannibal, you know the one with the human raisin in an electric wheelchair? Well it was no coincidence that he kept pigs so he could feed them his enemies.
    .
    Yeah! Remember that, the bit in the book was good too. He bred big monstrous pigs and trained them to eat humans from the feet first! Imagine:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,597 ✭✭✭anniehoo


    Ann22 wrote: »
    I found this reply to your question..
    What Ann said +
    • pigs have 14 teats;cows have 4-you'd need more clusters (milk collection sucker things) per animal which isnt ecomonically viable
    • pig milk is stimulated really quickly (15 secs) unlike cows (10 mins) so you'd have to be a fast mother sucker to get it out that quick.
    All in all..id say it tastes great but its a pain in the hole to collect or make money out of so thats why farmers dont bother.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 215 ✭✭one-angry-dwarf


    Hellm0 wrote: »
    But as a boutique product there is hope?

    Hope?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,241 ✭✭✭baalthor


    When I was a kid, we were told that if you drank pig's milk you would "see the wind" ...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    Abigayle wrote: »
    Well thats tonights quota of weird sorted.

    Not .. quite ..
    baalthor wrote: »
    When I was a kid, we were told that if you drank pig's milk you would "see the wind" ...

    There, now we've had the
    quota :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭Abi


    Milking himself?

    Well, that was a given.


    I just figured if we got him into the ring, the OP could make a fitting 'Yore Ma' comment.


    Oh wellz :/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Well I'm not sure about pigs milk but I have (seriously ) decided to start using Goats milk because of it's better digestive qualitys ( compared to the cowz stuff ) :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    Latchy wrote: »
    Well I'm not sure about pigs milk but I have (seriously ) decided to start using Goats milk because of it's better digestive qualitys ( compared to the cowz stuff ) :pac:

    I have been drinking and eating Goat's milk products for years. I'm not 'lactose intolerant' but I have an immunological reaction to the protein in Cow's Milk (Casien) since I was a kid.

    When I switched to Goat's milk products my asthma and eczema completely cleared up. No more wheezing.

    Occasionally I will cave and have some Ben & Jerry's but I'll sound like an old donkey wheezing for a few hours after.

    If your ever back in the 'old country' - try StTola Goat's cheese. It's a Raw Goat's Cheese that tastes sublime. You get it in Sheridan's Cheesemongers and a few Superquinns also stock it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,709 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    Ann22 wrote: »
    Have any of you ever tasted human milk? I did:o, it was only a teeny drop on my fingertip and it was my own.
    *fap fap fap*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,136 ✭✭✭del88


    Greg Focker: You can milk just about anything with nipples.
    Jack Byrnes: I have nipples, Greg, could you milk me?


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  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,632 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    What do you call a cow with two legs?
    Lean Beef

    What do you call a cow with no legs?
    Ground Beef


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 17,231 Mod ✭✭✭✭Das Kitty


    I have tasted the milk of swine!

    My cousin's family runs a pig farm and when we were kids they had about 300 of the things.

    So basically he knew what he was up to when he milked that sow into the plastic beaker and offered it to us unsuspecting cousins with the claim that it was "delicious".

    He made us queue up outside one of the sheds and enter one by one to try.

    Literally one drop touched off my tongue and a wave of shivers ran up my spine, when they passed my stomach they brought everything within roaring up and spewing out. It was the vilest, most disgusting substance I had ever tasted. I can still remember it and when I saw this thread title my stomach lurched. Before I could roar out to the others my cousin threatened to punch me in the face and sent me out the back of the shed, still vomiting as he covered the initial puddle with some straw.

    I suppose I was lucky really my poor younger brother took a good mouthful and actually swallowed some. :( He got away fast enough to raise the alarm. My uncle was not pleased, turns out that much like pork, pig's milk is full of foul parasites too, so my brother had to be subjected to being made vomit over and over by my pig farmer uncle putting his fingers down his throat, then we all had to go to the doctor to take all these anti-parasitic concoctions.

    So in short, don't do it kids, it's like warm liquid death.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭aDeener



    My family used to rear goats. They are actually quite milkable. They need to have a kid to produce well though. You can tie them and milk away but watch your face or you will be kicked.

    Goats milk(to me tastes vile as does cows milk) but it is a nutritious alternative to those intolerant to cows milk and you can buy it in the supermarket these days.

    Pigs milk is not even contemplated. High fat content presumably?
    Aren't pigs omnivores as well? Maybe their diet would make the milk unsuitable?

    That line did not work too well for the Gaddfather.


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