opinions of this raymond weil watche please

Omega28

Hi,
Looking for people opinions and which is the better watch in the long run, I dont really know anything about watches, but Iv been wanting to invest in one of these: http://www.murphyjewellers.com/catalog/product/show/576

is it a 1600euro watch or am I being ripped off?

buck65

That's quite a nice looking watch, very classy. For what your getting I think the price is ok but if their list price is 1590 I would guess that you could comfortably knock that down at least 10%. I reckon €1000 / 1100 would be nearer the mark
Weil while not a "major" luxury brand are probably on the next step down the ladder , I would guess resale value is low enough?.

Wibbs

Looks nice. Has the classical lines and all that. Plus its not quartz with the name adding 1000 quid to it. I'd agree with buck65, you could probably get a few quid off on the asking price. Resale value mey not be great, but if you're going to keep it for years I'd worry less about that TBH. I think resale value is more a concern to watch nuts* who chop and change more often.








*fully paid up member.:D

buck65

me too!
well nuts for watches anyway!

Omega28

thank you for the feedback, appreciate it very much.

Its a watch I'll be keeping, not reselling, so selling it on won't be my concern.
I was just wondering if it was worth the money and if I could get a better watch for that type of cash.
Hopefully I can get 10% off it, as you guys say. Would it be cheaper to make this purchase online? My only concern with buying online of course is if its genuine! I would'nt want to be wasting over 1k for a piece of junk.

buck65

The online world of watch trading is quite healthy. Try sites such as TZ UK for a look (avoid Ebay - can be known for replicas), I would buy locally from a shop if you want to buy soon. Haggle like hell though!

Cyrus

is that gold plated, im assuming so?

buck65

Did you buy this yet?

MooseJam

Wibbs wrote: »

Plus its not quartz with the name adding 1000 quid to it.

That's not really fair, do you know the relative production costs for raymond weil quartz V auto or are you just basing this on your own thoughts.

buck65

Not speaking for Wibbs but I think he meant because it's automatic rather than quartz you could expect to pay more for it. Usually companies and jewellers charge more for automatics AFAIK.

Cyrus

MooseJam wrote: »

That's not really fair, do you know the relative production costs for raymond weil quartz V auto or are you just basing this on your own thoughts.

well it is, a quartz movement costs $5-10$, automatic movements can cost anything especially if they buy ebauches and improve them

MooseJam

Cyrus wrote: »

well it is, a quartz movement costs $5-10$, automatic movements can cost anything especially if they buy ebauches and improve them

no it's not , if you don't know the actual production cost of RW auto vs quartz then you are just basing the statement on negative preconceptions of quartz watches.

The vast majority of auto's, even big brand watches costing k's just plop an unworked eta into them which cost little more than a quartz.

As for improving ebauches well who knows how much time or effort that takes, it's not like it's a new field of research, and I'm sure most companies exaggerate it a lot.

It is my opinion that quartz watches are not liked because you can buy one for a few quid, so Joe Bloggs who just spent a few k on a watch see's another one which is functionally better than his and gives change out of a 20, so in order to justify the cost these auto's are given a mythical status, they imagine that the work done on the movement was bigger than the manhattan project.

Cyrus

MooseJam wrote: »

no it's not , if you don't know the actual production cost of RW auto vs quartz then you are just basing the statement on negative preconceptions of quartz watches.

The vast majority of auto's, even big brand watches costing k's just plop an unworked eta into them which cost little more than a quartz.

As for improving ebauches well who knows how much time or effort that takes, it's not like it's a new field of research, and I'm sure most companies exaggerate it a lot.

It is my opinion that quartz watches are not liked because you can buy one for a few quid, so Joe Bloggs who just spent a few k on a watch see's another one which is functionally better than his and gives change out of a 20, so in order to justify the cost these auto's are given a mythical status, they imagine that the work done on the movement was bigger than the manhattan project.

sorry but i dont agree at all, for a number of reasons,

1) take the watch listed, assume movement aside the costs of prodn are the same, a basic quartz movement will cost $10 and a basic eta auto will cost $120+ so all other things being equal the watch with the auto movement is worth more of your money

2) you can buy plenty of cheap mechanicals too

3) i like some quartz watches, in fact i will definately buy a breitling b1 someday so i have no negative preconceptions

4) when buying from a premium manufacturer the whole package is what makes up the price, not just the movement, from the case work, the dial work, r&d, depending on who it is the marketing aswell:p

MooseJam

Cyrus wrote: »

sorry but i dont agree at all, for a number of reasons,

1) take the watch listed, assume movement aside the costs of prodn are the same, a basic quartz movement will cost $10 and a basic eta auto will cost $120+ so all other things being equal the watch with the auto movement is worth more of your money

Thats 60 odd euro difference, the quote you agreed with earlier stated 1000 euro ? bit of a difference.

4) when buying from a premium manufacturer the whole package is what makes up the price, not just the movement, from the case work, the dial work, r&d, depending on who it is the marketing aswell:p

true it's not just a case of a quartz is always worthless and you just pay for the brand name.