if we spoke irish

AJ STYLES

would ireland only have maby 4 channels? so much of our channels are british so I'm wondering what would happen?

mike65

Bi-lingual or only Irish?

They are not "our" channels they are their channels btw

AJ STYLES

ours meaning channels that are on irish cable. i know they are british.

if we spoke only irish nobody would watch cornoation st. eastenders and whatever else(unless they were subtitled but they are crap so i doubt people would bother watching them subtitled) i mean i cant think of how dumb myself would be if it wasnt for programmes on the bbc(evolution, science, nature). rte never make their own stuff.

Mossy Monk

If we spoke Irish we would still have English as our second language.

I know one woman who used to watch the S4C soap subtitled and a few that watch Ros na Run, also subtitled.

AJ STYLES

why would it be second language? obviously now it would because of english importance in international business but would we be any better at english than we are at french/german etc? we wouldn't be able to understand what they are saying.

mike65

I don't think it would make any difference regarding the range and quality of domestic programming. Money/talent in a small market is the issue not language.

amacachi

AJ STYLES wrote: »

why would it be second language? obviously now it would because of english importance in international business but would we be any better at english than we are at french/german etc? we wouldn't be able to understand what they are saying.

Why wouldn't it be our second language? Are you trying to find the point in our history that we started speaking English? Having them across a border and just a short hop across the sea it was always going to happen. If we did for some reason not speak english until the invention of television then we most likely would've started afterwards, it happens all over the world, look at how so many people who learn English later in life speak with an American accent.
If we in the Republic want to pick up French or German channels it's not that hard.

AJ STYLES

ok you don't get my question. norwegians speak english but they don't have loads of british channels. in ireland most of our channels are british. we have like 4 channels which are irish and the rest are british as far as i'm aware.

if we spoke irish we would get american and prob some british shows which would be either dubbed or subtitled but would we have more homemade stuff and would we have only a few channels?

amacachi

AJ STYLES wrote: »

ok you don't get my question. norwegians speak english but they don't have loads of british channels. in ireland most of our channels are british.

I'm going to guess they don't have as many channels as Britain but they have more than us. Probably due to their population.
And yes, it's been answered, if everyone in this country only spoke Irish then of course we wouldn't bother picking up the English-speaking channels and there may be demand for (at a guess) two more domestic channels, but there'd be one less because TG4 wouldn't be necessary.

maxxie

AJ STYLES wrote: »

ok you don't get my question. norwegians speak english but they don't have loads of british channels. in ireland most of our channels are british. we have like 4 channels which are irish and the rest are british as far as i'm aware.

if we spoke irish we would get american and prob some british shows which would be either dubbed or subtitled but would we have more homemade stuff and would we have only a few channels?

If we only had the same ****e like the all ireland talent show and fair city I imagine television wouldnt be that popular! We'd all be too busy at the paint drying festival!

AJ STYLES

norway is the same pop. as ireland, well about the same. i wonder if anybody who lived in a small non-english speaking country could tell us what tv is like there?

i know the question is kinda stupid because speaking english changes the mindset of the country completely. we prob more opten to different cultures if we spole irish.

amacachi

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_in_Norway They don't have an awful lot of domestic channels, 5 terrestrial which is one more than us.

AJ STYLES

thanks question answered

pickarooney

For one thing, they never dub anything. For another, they watch mostly English-speaking channels.

I don't believe it's a coincidence that countries which subtitle have a generally high level of English fluency.

so to answer your question - we would all speak Irish as a first language and pretty much everyone would speak fluent English as well.

Liam Byrne

AJ STYLES wrote: »

i know the question is kinda stupid because speaking english changes the mindset of the country completely. we prob more opten to different cultures if we spole irish.

What ????

We are "open to different cultures"......mostly English and American! And in some cases, god knows why, because what come of the (c)rap songs and "hangin' at my crib" bull**** has of interest is beyond me.

People bitch about the poor standard of "The All-Ireland Talent Show", and yet cheer on incessantly the two most talentless and biggest idiots on the UK equivalent ?

Not to mention the fact that there are no real Irish "celebs", and yet while Irish people pass snide remarks at our - say - "D-list" celebs, they'll fawn all over the UK or US Z-list ones (or even their spouses or "I shagged him/her once" acquaintences)

NONE of the above is Irish......and yet many Irish people lap them up.

So in my reckoning we're almost TOO open to some specific cultures, importing the worst of them.

AJ STYLES

yes but other anglophone countries which irish are obsessed with and i agree completely with you. the x factor sucks.


i think if ireland spoke irish we would be more european as they say.

amacachi

Liam Byrne wrote: »

What ????

We are "open to different cultures"......mostly English and American! And in some cases, god knows why, because what come of the (c)rap songs and "hangin' at my crib" bull**** has of interest is beyond me.

People bitch about the poor standard of "The All-Ireland Talent Show", and yet cheer on incessantly the two most talentless and biggest idiots on the UK equivalent ?

Not to mention the fact that there are no real Irish "celebs", and yet while Irish people pass snide remarks at our - say - "D-list" celebs, they'll fawn all over the UK or US Z-list ones (or even their spouses or "I shagged him/her once" acquaintences)

NONE of the above is Irish......and yet many Irish people lap them up.

So in my reckoning we're almost TOO open to some specific cultures, importing the worst of them.

The vast majority of people who complain about the AITS also hated those two tosspots on the XFactor and the same with "celebs", anyone who dislikes our "D-List" also dislikes those people who make a living by being famous after sleeping with one person.

Brian CivilEng

Norway may not pick up British TV channels but their domestic channels are full of stuff from the Beeb/ITV. All of it is subtitled, though most of the Norwegians I know don't really need them. I expected to see a lot more European programming over there, since they are used to subtitled tv it shouldn't matter if it is English/German/Portugese etc, but apart from Swedish and Danish stuff the majority of Norwegian imported telly is from Britian or America.

I would say that their state broadcaster NRK is of a slightly higher standard to RTÉ programming wise, but not too much higher. They don't have ads which is great.

pickarooney

abitofacomedian wrote: »

Norway may not pick up British TV channels but their domestic channels are full of stuff from the Beeb/ITV. All of it is subtitled, though most of the Norwegians I know don't really need them. I expected to see a lot more European programming over there, since they are used to subtitled tv it shouldn't matter if it is English/German/Portugese etc, but apart from Swedish and Danish stuff the majority of Norwegian imported telly is from Britian or America.

I would say that their state broadcaster NRK is of a slightly higher standard to RTÉ programming wise, but not too much higher. They don't have ads which is great.

Have you ever seen German or Portuguese TV? Or French, Italian, Greek.... People moan about British television these days but it has a hell of a long way to go before it reaches the depths of continental Europe.

AJ STYLES

abitofacomedian wrote: »

Norway may not pick up British TV channels but their domestic channels are full of stuff from the Beeb/ITV. All of it is subtitled, though most of the Norwegians I know don't really need them. I expected to see a lot more European programming over there, since they are used to subtitled tv it shouldn't matter if it is English/German/Portugese etc, but apart from Swedish and Danish stuff the majority of Norwegian imported telly is from Britian or America.

I would say that their state broadcaster NRK is of a slightly higher standard to RTÉ programming wise, but not too much higher. They don't have ads which is great.

it might be to do with culture as well, norwegians can connect much more with british than let's say french culture.

syklops

AJ STYLES wrote: »

norway is the same pop. as ireland, well about the same. i wonder if anybody who lived in a small non-english speaking country could tell us what tv is like there?

i know the question is kinda stupid because speaking english changes the mindset of the country completely. we prob more opten to different cultures if we spole irish.

Right now I live in the Czech republic. Population 10 Million. They have about 5 domestic stations. If I ask around in work what do most people watch on TV, 99% of people will say Top Gear. The english one not the german one. Its dubbed. There is even a Czech language Top Gear magazine, which is a translation of the english one. Other TV favourites include CSI, Friends, and House(or as they call it here Doktor House). Sound familiar?

AJ STYLES

yeah im aware of those shows