Solid fuel stove

redmagic68

Hi,

Im looking for a solid fuel stove with a more contempanorary look than the stanley range. I would love for it to heat the room and radiators with similar outputs to the stanley grainne option.

Any help gratefully accepted. Thanks

foundation10

Take a look at the charnwood range and the esse 350.
IMO the best looking stoves are insert stoves but these will set you back at bit and difficult enough to get ones with boilers.

gally74

try arrow stoved (uk) bough one and well happy

redmagic68

foundation10 wrote: »

Take a look at the charnwood range and the esse 350.
IMO the best looking stoves are insert stoves but these will set you back at bit and difficult enough to get ones with boilers.

Have had a look at the charnwood and its along those lines we were thinking. The free standing esse's are better but dont have integrated boilers.

Our favourite one is called firebelly but it to doent have the integrated boiler we're looking for.

Thanks for the info Foundation. If anyone has any other options please let us know.

redmagic68

gally74 wrote: »

try arrow stoved (uk) bough one and well happy

Do you have the boiler option for the central heating if so how do you find it Gally?

Overature

I have a feeling that it is difficult to get a stove that will heat radiators and the room, its either one or the other. i have a solid burning stove, that's not attached to the radiators and that heats the room real nice, however my uncle has one that is attached to the radiators and it does not seem to heat the room very well.

that's just my experience anyway

redmagic68

Overature wrote: »

I have a feeling that it is difficult to get a stove that will heat radiators and the room, its either one or the other. i have a solid burning stove, that's not attached to the radiators and that heats the room real nice, however my uncle has one that is attached to the radiators and it does not seem to heat the room very well.

that's just my experience anyway

Toe be honest we want it as much as a focal point within the room as much as to heat it, its most important function would be to supply heat to the central heating system.

GoneShootin

Overature wrote: »

I have a feeling that it is difficult to get a stove that will heat radiators and the room, its either one or the other. i have a solid burning stove, that's not attached to the radiators and that heats the room real nice, however my uncle has one that is attached to the radiators and it does not seem to heat the room very well.

that's just my experience anyway

A common problem with boiler stoves is the fact that people rarely try to estimate the KW required to heat the room before purchasing the stove. For example the Stratford TF90B is a BEAST of a stove, yet it only gives out approx 3kw to the room, while powering about 18 single rads.

It''s also worth nothing that the type of fuel that you use also has an impact on the output of the stove.

You give the Stanley Grainne as an example redmagic. That gives a max output of 10kw to the room. Ideally then your room should be about 25 foot by 25 foot (rough calc based on this calculator). Also, the Stanley Grainne doesn't have a boiler option, so you'd need to know how many rads you want to heat - or even better the BTU's required for your heating solution.

Long story short get your figures right first, then go look at your stoves

Graceland

Overature wrote: »

my uncle has one that is attached to the radiators and it does not seem to heat the room very well.

I have a solid fuel cooker which is attached to the radiators. It heats the room brilliantly and also the radiators. I find it great. I have oil heating too but with the very cold spell lately, I have been lighting the solid fuel and there were times when it was nearly too warm with it.

skywalker_208

We went for the Hunter Herald (this one: http://www.medwaystovesandfires.com/items/hunter_herald_8_med.jpg )

V happy with it. Has a boiler to heat the water and rads.

Ten Tenths

Snap! I too need a stove a little more modern than the stanleys. I used to have a Waterford Erin and was very impressed with its performance. However I intend to buy a Nestor Martin 80B. It doesnt match the Erins performance, but meets my current needs very well. Pay close attention to the outputs as some stoves put more energy into water heating than others.
Anyone got any experience of the Nestor Martin?

RKQ

Ten Tenths wrote: »

However I intend to buy a Nestor Martin 80B.

Nestor Martin RHLine - now that what I call "comtemporary". Most of the Scandinavian stoves are comtemporay & wood burning only. Europeans don't seem to go for stoves with boilers - not sure why.

Never heard anything bad about Nestor Martin - seem very well build.

Jupiterwood

" Most of the Scandinavian stoves are comtemporay & wood burning only. Europeans don't seem to go for stoves with boilers - not sure why."

The reason for this is that water boils at 100C and if you have a boiler you have to keep the temperature below 100 normally 70-80. The problem is that for wood burning to be efficient it has to burn at around 200C. If you have a boiler your stove will be less efficient and you will get tar and cresote buildup in your stove and chimney.

Sorry about this inconvenient truth !

Have a look at a modern woodburner http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Fs_hR1N0ww

RKQ

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Sorry about this inconvenient truth ! [/quote]

Why are you sorry?
From your explaination it would seem our Scandinavian neighbours don't bother with Stoves with boilers, for good reason. From what you say a wood burning stove is better, capable of higher temperatures.

redmagic68

GoneShootin wrote: »

A common problem with boiler stoves is the fact that people rarely try to estimate the KW required to heat the room before purchasing the stove. For example the Stratford TF90B is a BEAST of a stove, yet it only gives out approx 3kw to the room, while powering about 18 single rads.

It''s also worth nothing that the type of fuel that you use also has an impact on the output of the stove.

You give the Stanley Grainne as an example redmagic. That gives a max output of 10kw to the room. Ideally then your room should be about 25 foot by 25 foot (rough calc based on this calculator). Also, the Stanley Grainne doesn't have a boiler option, so you'd need to know how many rads you want to heat - or even better the BTU's required for your heating solution.

Long story short get your figures right first, then go look at your stoves

the grainne has a bolier option for 6 to seven rads http://www.waterfordstanley.com/Products/1102.htm

Here are some other options i have come across trawling the net. Hope this helps someone. Would be grateful if anyone has any experience of any of these stoves if they could post it or pm me thanks.

Hwam Monet
Scanline 580 Aqua boiler stove
Aquatherm Eco P26 Boiler Stove

gizmo555

foundation10 wrote: »

Take a look at the charnwood range and the esse 350.
IMO the best looking stoves are insert stoves but these will set you back at bit and difficult enough to get ones with boilers.

I installed an Esse 301 insert stove last year and so far I'm extremely disappointed with it. Heat output seems very low to me in a room of about 50 cubic metres - it's a 5kW stove rated to heat up to 75 m3.

http://www.esse.com/stoves/multifuel_wood/301.html

I've been burning a mix of well-seasoned wood and smokeless coal nuggets. Burning the same type and quantity of fuel in a free-standing stove in another room of the exact same size, you couldn't keep the doors closed, you'd be baked. With the Esse, it struggles to bring the room temperature up to 19C - I should add this is in a well-insulated house.

I spoke to Esse and one thing they suggested was checking the air-tightness of the seal between the back of the stove and the fireplace surround. I did this and it has made a very marginal improvement. I would appreciate any suggestions or advice, especially from other owners of Esse insert stoves.