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Is there opportunity for aerator contracting

  • 05-01-2010 11:30pm
    #1
    bk1991
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 760 ✭✭✭


    Hi

    as thread says is there a market for contracting service of aeration for farmers
    Look at the following link http://www.bridgewayengineering.com/aerators/


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  • #2
    cormywormy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 319 ✭✭cormywormy


    it depends you would have to see is there a market in your area for it, as some farmers prefer a mole plough type machine than a aerator.


  • #3
    bk1991
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 760 ✭✭✭bk1991


    cormywormy wrote: »
    it depends you would have to see is there a market in your area for it, as some farmers prefer a mole plough type machine than a aerator.


    i will have to see in this area yes but just looking for general opinion

    has anyone ever used one ?


  • #4
    cormywormy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 319 ✭✭cormywormy


    I was going to buy one and do a bit of contracting. Then a local contractor to me bought the biggest trailed model from bridgeway, so no point in doing that then.


  • #5
    bk1991
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 760 ✭✭✭bk1991


    cormywormy wrote: »
    I was going to buy one and do a bit of contracting. Then a local contractor to me bought the biggest trailed model from bridgeway, so no point in doing that then.


    so there is someone contracting with it .u know much about the trailed bridge way one ?

    how much is he chargeing ?


  • #6
    cormywormy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 319 ✭✭cormywormy


    I think its near 10000, dont quote me thought. I dont know does he do much with it, he has used it as iv been in his yard and i seen it brand new ( with fresh paint smell), then i seen it a while later used. I must find out about it, because if he isnt going to use it much im going to hire it off him.


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  • #7
    mossfort
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 609 ✭✭✭mossfort


    when using an aerator you have to drive at a maximum of 5mph so if you were at this for a few days you would crack up.
    a guy near me bought one and just hires it out to use yourself.
    i got it off him last september and covered 20 acres with it which took a good day.
    i paid him 80 euros for the day .
    it dosnt seem to have made much of a difference and i think the blades dont go deep enough into the ground to make an impact.
    something like a mole drainer or subsoiler would probaly work better as it goes down deeper and opens up the ground a bit underneath.


  • #8
    cormywormy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 319 ✭✭cormywormy


    mossfort wrote: »
    when using an aerator you have to drive at a maximum of 5mph so if you were at this for a few days you would crack up.
    a guy near me bought one and just hires it out to use yourself.
    i got it off him last september and covered 20 acres with it which took a good day.
    i paid him 80 euros for the day .
    it dosnt seem to have made much of a difference and i think the blades dont go deep enough into the ground to make an impact.
    something like a mole drainer or subsoiler would probaly work better as it goes down deeper and opens up the ground a bit underneath.

    Yeah i did hear about that, were it does not go deep enough to break the pan and just causes more problems with cow marks in the field as the water has soaked deeper.


  • #9
    whelan1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    we have a an aerator and a mole plough and use the mole plough alot more than the aerator - in fact i think we havent used it in years


  • #10
    aristo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 124 ✭✭aristo


    whelan1 wrote: »
    we have a an aerator and a mole plough and use the mole plough alot more than the aerator - in fact i think we havent used it in years

    Same as, havent used our aerator in years, only certain times in spring it can be used, very slow output, wont go deep enough to shatter a pan, but we did see great results from it on ground that got packed a bit from rolling, id sooner put the discs on the front of the subsoiler and loosen everything up, i dont how that chap on the british farming forum with the fastrac is going to make it pay if thats where the idea stems from, but if you are looking for an aerator we have one there could do with a new home!


  • #11
    dasheriff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭dasheriff


    aristo wrote: »
    Same as, havent used our aerator in years, only certain times in spring it can be used, very slow output, wont go deep enough to shatter a pan, but we did see great results from it on ground that got packed a bit from rolling, id sooner put the discs on the front of the subsoiler and loosen everything up, i dont how that chap on the british farming forum with the fastrac is going to make it pay if thats where the idea stems from, but if you are looking for an aerator we have one there could do with a new home!
    What part of the country are you in aristo?What kaind of subsoiler have you?
    And in comparison what would ou pay for a mole plough roughly?


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  • #12
    bk1991
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 760 ✭✭✭bk1991


    basicaly i am looking at new ideas that arnt around here at the moment to start them


  • #13
    red menace
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭red menace


    bk1991 wrote: »
    basicaly i am looking at new ideas that arnt around here at the moment to start them

    I think field drains are going to be big business, repairing and cleaning.
    I recall seeing a PTO jetter that took water from the dyke and used it to was out built up silt in the pipes. could be a runner....


    http://www.aquawash.co.uk/products/heavy-duty-pto-tractor-driven.aspx#Homburg%20Field%20Drain%20Cleaner

    This the machine
    Uses water pressure to shoot it's self up the drain.
    Dont ask me how to charge for it though


  • #14
    Colmm23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 98 ✭✭Colmm23


    The subsoiler or panbuster type machine would be a better investment although they are slightly more expensive. There is a problem with doing this sort of work as a contractor and that is the fact that there is such a small window of opportunity to complete this work because as you know if ground is too wet you will do more harm than good and unfortunately it doesn't seem to stay dry enough for long enough to get through any significant amount of work as you cover ground so slowly.
    If your looking at machines study the Erth Engineering Panbuster machine or Spaldings Flatlift.;)


  • #15
    bk1991
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 760 ✭✭✭bk1991


    red menace wrote: »
    I think field drains are going to be big business, repairing and cleaning.
    I recall seeing a PTO jetter that took water from the dyke and used it to was out built up silt in the pipes. could be a runner....


    do u have more info on this ?


  • #16
    bk1991
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 760 ✭✭✭bk1991


    Colmm23 wrote: »
    The subsoiler or panbuster type machine would be a better investment although they are slightly more expensive. There is a problem with doing this sort of work as a contractor and that is the fact that there is such a small window of opportunity to complete this work because as you know if ground is too wet you will do more harm than good and unfortunately it doesn't seem to stay dry enough for long enough to get through any significant amount of work as you cover ground so slowly.
    If your looking at machines study the Erth Engineering Panbuster machine or Spaldings Flatlift.;)

    would you say there is market in subsoiling ? or is this kinda compaction thing not for contrctor ?


  • #17
    red menace
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭red menace


    added link above
    http://www.aquawash.co.uk/products/heavy-duty-pto-tractor-driven.aspx#Homburg%20Field%20Drain%20Cleaner but here ya go again,


  • #18
    Colmm23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 98 ✭✭Colmm23


    bk1991 wrote: »
    would you say there is market in subsoiling ? or is this kinda compaction thing not for contrctor ?

    I think there is a market for this sort of work alright as we looked at it earlier in the year and a certain amount of guys were interested but we decided against it in the end as you would need to be doing a large amount of acres to keep your price been charged down so as to entice the lads that were sitting on the fence.
    I dont think we could do enough in the few days available to make it profitable to be honest. You need to remember that the land is this country seems to be wet a lot and it takes about a week to get it dry enough for subsoiling and then you need another couple of weeks to cover enough of an area to pay yourself. Not too often we two or three dry weeks unfortunately:D


  • #19
    red menace
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭red menace


    http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/plantmachinery/1052339

    Get yourself one of these
    Start relaying all the water pipes that weren't put down deep enough and l;ads are discovering are frozen solid...


  • #20
    aristo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 124 ✭✭aristo


    dasheriff wrote: »
    What part of the country are you in aristo?What kaind of subsoiler have you?
    And in comparison what would ou pay for a mole plough roughly?

    On very heavy clay in kildare! its a 3leg cooper pan buster, i havent a clue about moleploughs

    bk1991 wrote: »
    would you say there is market in subsoiling ? or is this kinda compaction thing not for contrctor ?

    For the cost of a subsoiler it will be hard to recoup as it can only be used at certain times, if its used in wrong conditions it can do more harm than good and tractor will drink diesel if you are burrying it deep.


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