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England embroiled in ball row

  • 05-01-2010 8:54pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 146 ✭✭


    The Brits may have been caught cheating. The SA team made their concerns be known to the match referee that Stuart Broad was seen studding the ball.
    maybe this will explain how the Brits werre getting so much reverse swing with the ball.

    We shall see


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  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,393 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Not seen the incident, but from what I understand he stopped the ball in the field with his foot, and (allegedly) put extra pressure on it with his studs.

    It seems to me that the Africans are running a bit scared of England at present, having gone behind in the series and now resorting to compiling some kind of "dossier" of "suspicious actions" by the English team, presumably in an attempt to unsettle them. It's a dangerous game to play - it just needs someone to find a single equivalent "action" by one of the Africans to cause a major backfire.


  • Subscribers Posts: 16,617 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    Beasty wrote: »
    Not seen the incident, but from what I understand he stopped the ball in the field with his foot, and (allegedly) put extra pressure on it with his studs. .

    I've seen it and he just traps a ball that is rolling at reasonble speed toward him with the sole of his boot, then takes his foot off it straight away. No second movement, no extra pressure. The way the spikes are on the edge of the sole ball might have missed them all together.

    The main thing is that there is absolutely no way he could have known which side of the ball he was going to get, so how it could be deliberate tampering for more swing I really don't know:confused:
    It's impossible and if anything would be more likely to ruin the swing, only possible thing would be to get a different ball if it was damaged too much which it would never have done.

    Sth African whining is all it is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 146 ✭✭boksmashoffice


    The Pakistani's were caught a few years back when they were caught using bottle tops and their nails to scratch one side of the ball to get it to reverse swing when the ball gets old. Can we say this was similar? Broad has already been reprimanded by the powers that be for a previous incident involving faking an action during his run up. Mind you Broad senior is a match umpire so maybe he can use his influence to get his son off the hook.
    We shall see.


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,393 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Mind you Broad senior is a match umpire so maybe he can use his influence to get his son off the hook.
    We shall see.
    An outrageous statement!!!!

    There is absolutely no way Chris Broad would use any such influence (and there is equally no way that the powers that be would allow it anyway)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭randomer


    The guy stopped the ball with the bottom of his foot. To compare this to using a bottle top to tamper with a ball would be outrageous.

    This is a complete non issue and I would be amazed if the match referee even mentions it.


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  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,393 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    I have now seen it - complete non-event - he may have been a little careless, but there was absolutely no intent. The Africans are clearly running scared if they have to resort to this :)


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 2,666 Mod ✭✭✭✭TrueDub


    The Pakistani's were caught a few years back when they were caught using bottle tops and their nails to scratch one side of the ball to get it to reverse swing when the ball gets old. Can we say this was similar?

    No, we can't. Others on this thread have discussed what Broad did, and it's not even in the same universe as the actions you describe.
    Broad has already been reprimanded by the powers that be for a previous incident involving faking an action during his run up.

    Irrelevant to the question at hand - and he was reprimanded for pointing during his run-up, not faking an action.
    Mind you Broad senior is a match umpire so maybe he can use his influence to get his son off the hook.
    We shall see.

    He won't, and he wouldn't even try. And Chris Broad is a match referee, not a umpire.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,721 Mod ✭✭✭✭dfx-


    What do we think about Anderson picking at the ball...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    Mind you Broad senior is a match umpire so maybe he can use his influence to get his son off the hook.
    We shall see.

    The same Broad Senior who fined the same Broad Junior for excessive Appealing?

    Back in your boks, mate.:D


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,393 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    The umpires have reviewed the video footage and confirmed there is no case to answer

    A storm in a teacup, if ever there was one!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    copacetic wrote: »

    Sth African whining is all it is.

    abraham Benjamin you lovable talented rogue. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭Dasbo


    Slow motion always makes everything look very dramatic. I'd say everyone is probably still a bit edgy after the Pakistan incident.

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