Will those who tuned in to see Bret keep watching?

Bounty Hunter

So Jan 4th is over, Bret has returned and with him came a lot of old WWF fans who wanted to see the Hitman go face to face with Vince/HBK again. But will any of those fans stay for a sustained period? How about even on boards where we have seen a lot of old and unusual faces posting on PW recently, are many of you going to hang around for a while?

WWE have Tyson next week which is smart imo as he will def keep many peoples interest and if they watch next week they might also get Bret part 2 where it could be revealed that Bret is back for more than just a night or two.

mitchmeister

DEFO watchin raw next week

RAW WAS BRET!

glenjamin

Meh, maybe I will, maybe I won't. I was all looking forward to seeing Bret's comeback tonight but was left thinking at 4.10am 'why the fcuk didn't I go to bed?'. Apart from the last minute on it I was largely disappointed. I dunno what I was expecting but I did expect something other than a kick to the leg. I know Bret's gonna be around for a few months and was hoping that he would be the last guest host so they can ultimately focus on a McMahon/Bret feud without having to worry about trying to pop whoever they get to host each week. I'm sure it'll get better but for now I reckon I'll just be checking wrestling websites for a review come Tuesday afternoons.

Rud3Bwoy

i will,seeing as i am going to mania,i love to watch the build up every week going into mania.

Roar

i'll sky plus it, and skim through it after work on tuesday evenings i'd say

parker kent

One of the biggest downsides for me is that we have to pay for PPVs now. Back when I watched religiously, they were always free. I kind of faded away bit by bit over the past 2-3 years watching Impact mainly and eventually giving up on it too. Not being able afford the PPVs at the minute means that it feels a little pointless watching Raw or Smackdown.

At the minute though I really want to see whats going to happen with Bret and then the possible HBK/Undertaker match too at Wrestlemania. So as of now it looks like I'll stick around till Mania. Sky+ Raw/Smackdown and watch Wrestlemania.

chopperbyrne

Getting Tyson for next week is a very smart decision. People who hadn't watched wrestling since Bret left were watching last night and those people will all be very familiar with Tyson.

Expect the Tyson/Austin/Shawn stuff to be shown.

CMpunked

Im not really bothered TBH.

I'll sky plus it but if i hear something major happens then i'll probably watch it.

CMpunked

CMpunked wrote: »

Im not really bothered TBH.

I'll sky plus it but if i hear something major happens then i'll probably watch it.

Exactly what I'l do tbh. Hoping to see DX K.o'ed by the Hart Dynasty now.

Sid_Justice

I don't think I've ever seen Monday Night Raw before but I skimmed through last nights episode. Thought it was a bit silly until the very end when I realised it was completely ridiculous. I'll tune in next week to see how much of a train wreck Tyson is.

CMpunked

Can't believe they actually billed him as 'iron mike' thought it'd be 'star of the hangover....'
:rolleyes:

joe123

Will Bret be on next weeks show? Id watch it if it was but dont want to watch Mike Tyson and the whole sillyness that is wrestling anymore.

citytillidie

I think Teddy Long will "sign" Bret to Smackdown, since he is still on his probation period and after Bret interaction with Jericho and Jerichos interaction a couple of weeks ago with the Hart family

Diabhal Beag

I want to see what happens next week but am not arsed to stay up till half 4 in the morning to find out.

DinnyBatman

i'll watch the best bits on the internet the day after.
bret has got me interested again (kind of..)

CMpunked

citytillidie wrote: »

I think Teddy Long will "sign" Bret to Smackdown, since he is still on his probation period and after Bret interaction with Jericho and Jerichos interaction a couple of weeks ago with the Hart family

Co-GM perhaps?

Terry

Right, what ChopperByrne said is, in my opinion, valid.

The Austin Era people would have watched last night.

So Bret hosted RAW. Where do we go from here?
I don't want to see a convicted rapist host RAW. That's a really bad move on the part of Vince.
They boast about having better ratings than network tv in the U.S., but I'm really uncomfortable about the WWE aligning itself with someone who served time for rape. I really don't see anything positive about this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Tyson#Rape_conviction.2C_prison.2C_and_aftermath

flahavaj

Terry wrote: »

Right, what ChopperByrne said is, in my opinion, valid.

The Austin Era people would have watched last night.

So Bret hosted RAW. Where do we go from here?
I don't want to see a convicted rapist host RAW. That's a really bad move on the part of Vince.
They boast about having better ratings than network tv in the U.S., but I'm really uncomfortable about the WWE aligning itself with someone who served time for rape. I really don't see anything positive about this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Tyson#Rape_conviction.2C_prison.2C_and_aftermath

Were you offended when he had his cameo in the hangover?

Wrestling has few or no morals, especially Vince McMahon, its probably the scummiest industry in the world.

Ridley

Terry wrote: »

Right, what ChopperByrne said is, in my opinion, valid.

The Austin Era people would have watched last night.

So Bret hosted RAW. Where do we go from here?
I don't want to see a convicted rapist host RAW. That's a really bad move on the part of Vince.
They boast about having better ratings than network tv in the U.S., but I'm really uncomfortable about the WWE aligning itself with someone who served time for rape. I really don't see anything positive about this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Tyson#Rape_conviction.2C_prison.2C_and_aftermath

Aligning Themselves again, surely? WrestleMania XIV happened, with success, so the best case you could make is that Tyson's appearance in the TV-PG era is what's suspect.

Jazzy

dunno, probably not. there is a lot of sh1t wrestlers there. ill write a big post tomorow about it

GarTss

watched raw last night and although I was slightly let down by Brets appearance you couldn't help but feel you had to see him return , I'm pretty sure thats how it was for most people, there's talk on him and Vince at mania , hmmmm interesting;)

Wompa1

GarTss wrote: »

watched raw last night and although I was slightly let down by Brets appearance you couldn't help but feel you had to see him return , I'm pretty sure thats how it was for most people, there's talk on him and Vince at mania , hmmmm interesting;)

Not sure Monday night was worth his selling himself out in fairness...I didn't like how he said he had begged to come back..that's horse crap. It made him seem weak. Neither Vince or HBK apologised yet Bret was willing to bury the hatchet...why would he agree to let himself seem like such a walk over!?

GavRedKing

It was good to see him back but at abut 4.15 I though to myself I should have just Sky + it. I will be from now on, working at 9 the next day is not fun with feck all sleep.

Still, ill just record it and see how it plays out.

Mossy Monk

I wont watch again. I just wasn't entertained by any of it.

bret69

I didn't think the overall Raw was good at all but I'll continue watching as long as Bret is on there.

REALLY didn't like the whole "I was trying to come back before but Vince didn't let me" thing...

Why did he say that? Is it true I wonder?

GarTss

I kinda consider it like a U2 album , even though they've brought out albums which weren't good , people will still say it was amazing just because they love u2, kinda the same thing with Bret for me anyway

nevaeh-2die-4

Just seen it there.
It’s been a good while since I watched wwe

so happy to Bret is back, I hope something really good develops from his appearance on raw, I know with his health issues he has considerable limitations to what he can do ring wise, I hope to see something good transpire for wrestlemania.

I will watch raw for as long as bret`s there

me-skywalker

Havnt watched wrestlign in about 2 years. The draw for Bret was immense so obviously I watched it.... but I wont be watching it again!! Terrible terrible programming now.

Ads every 5mins.. ads during matches... barely any matches at all. Too many segments. and some baad segments.

Il just havea read online to see what they do with Bret but coudlnt be arsed even then. Its done with now they've obviously kissed and made up to make a rake load of money.

Ridley

bret69 wrote: »

REALLY didn't like the whole "I was trying to come back before but Vince didn't let me" thing...

Why did he say that? Is it true I wonder?

To give McMahon boos.

Wompa1

Ridley wrote: »

To give McMahon boos.

He could have said something else like he wanted his father inducted into the HOF with him or some crap like that...then have Vince say he'd induct him this year and still get the same boo's and then slight cheers. What they did made no sense...it made Bret seem desperate and weak

Terry

flahavaj wrote: »

Were you offended when he had his cameo in the hangover?

Wrestling has few or no morals, especially Vince McMahon, its probably the scummiest industry in the world.

My problem is that Tyson is a convicted rapist.
Yes, wrestling organisations are known for their moral ambiguity, but that is mostly to do with performers taking steroids,
Steroid abuse is self harm. Rape is, well, I've never been raped but I can only imagine that it is a horrific experience for the victim.

As for the film "The Hangover", I watched about half and was offended by the complete lack of humour in it.

GarTss wrote: »

I kinda consider it like a U2 album , even though they've brought out albums which weren't good , people will still say it was amazing just because they love u2, kinda the same thing with Bret for me anyway

As a U2 fan, I'll disagree with that. Their last two albums were not great at all. I've been a U2 fan since 1983. I rarely liked any of their singles, but I love the other album tracks.


Anyway, to bring this back on topic; Bret as GM?
The guest manager thing will not last forever. Corporate wants a new GM. Bret gets the gig (this is hypothetical and has no basis in fact).

GarTss

personally I dont think he will become GM, I think he just wants to bow out of wrestling with his head up high and doesn't want his career spoilt by what took place in montreal , and as for the U2 thing, I find them ****, but try explain why to any of their fans

flahavaj

Terry wrote: »

My problem is that Tyson is a convicted rapist.
Yes, wrestling organisations are known for their moral ambiguity, but that is mostly to do with performers taking steroids,
Steroid abuse is self harm. Rape is, well, I've never been raped but I can only imagine that it is a horrific experience for the victim.

As for the film "The Hangover", I watched about half and was offended by the complete lack of humour in it.

Of course rape is horrendous, I wasn't trying to belittle it in any way.

But I'm a bit surprised about any moral indignation about Tyson. He featured in the Main Event of Wrestlemania after his rape conviction as well, this is nothing new.

Also whether you enjoyed the Hangover is irrelevant and skirting around the issue. Were you morally outraged to see Tyson in it?

And the moral ambiguity prevalent in wrestling stretches much further than mere steroid abuse. Women are demeaned on a weekly basis on WWE TV, Hulk Hogna has been taped colluding with his son about how to use his imprisonment for causing a serious car crash to further his showbiz career, WWE have performers while pregnant, made a storlyline several times about female employees putting on weight, Japanese wrestler Kensuke Sasaki is accused of beating a young wrestler in the New Japan dojo, theres teh Montreal screwjob, the animal abuse scandal in dragon gate, the Jimmy Snuka murder story:I literally could go on all night. Point is, wrestling is pretty scummy. If you were to look at it in a moralistic light you'd never watch again and thow all your wrestling DVD's in the bin. Employing a rapist is just another thing to add to the list to be perfectly honest.

Terry

GarTss wrote: »

personally I dont think he will become GM, I think he just wants to bow out of wrestling with his head up high and doesn't want his career spoilt by what took place in montreal , and as for the U2 thing, I find them ****, but try explain why to any of their fans

Musical taste is subjective.
As fr the GM thing, that's just something I see happening, It may not happen. I'm justspeculating.

flahavaj wrote: »

Of course rape is horrendous, I wasn't trying to belittle it in any way.

But I'm a bit surprised about any moral indignation about Tyson. He featured in the Main Event of Wrestlemania after his rape conviction as well, this is nothing new.

Also whether you enjoyed the Hangover is irrelevant and skirting around the issue. Were you morally outraged to see Tyson in it?

And the moral ambiguity prevalent in wrestling stretches much further than mere steroid abuse. Women are demeaned on a weekly basis on WWE TV, Hulk Hogna has been taped colluding with his son about how to use his imprisonment for causing a serious car crash to further his showbiz career, WWE have performers while pregnant, made a storlyline several times about female employees putting on weight, Japanese wrestler Kensuke Sasaki is accused of beating a young wrestler in the New Japan dojo, theres teh Montreal screwjob, the animal abuse scandal in dragon gate, the Jimmy Snuka murder story:I literally could go on all night. Point is, wrestling is pretty scummy. If you were to look at it in a moralistic light you'd never watch again and thow all your wrestling DVD's in the bin. Employing a rapist is just another thing to add to the list to be perfectly honest.

I didn't say you were belittling rape.
I didn't watch the Raws and PPVs with Tyson because he is a convicted rapist.

Yes, Hogan is a jackass. Watching half an episode of "Hogan pimps himself to MTV" makes that clear.

I watch WWE and that's about it.
Can you point out any rapists of murderers currently employed by them?

The other PW mods would be bigger fans that I am. I tend not to follow Japanese, Mexican and whatever shows.

I was watching TNA until they tried the WCW thing without making it interesting.

flahavaj

Terry wrote: »

Musical taste is subjective.
As fr the GM thing, that's just something I see happening, It may not happen. I'm justspeculating.




I didn't say you were belittling rape.
I didn't watch the Raws and PPVs with Tyson because he is a convicted rapist.

Yes, Hogan is a jackass. Watching half an episode of "Hogan pimps himself to MTV" makes that clear.

I watch WWE and that's about it.
Can you point out any rapists of murderers currently employed by them?

The other PW mods would be bigger fans that I am. I tend not to follow Japanese, Mexican and whatever shows.

I was watching TNA until they tried the WCW thing without making it interesting.

No murderers or rapists at present AFAIK, jimmy Snuka is alleged to have gotten away with murder (literally), I suppose there's the role the WWE schedule played in Benoit's mental and physical state and Sasaki was employed by WCW in the past.

I'm just merely making the point that the wrestling business as a whole is a moralistic minefield and it would be hard to know where to draw the line if you were to look at it in that way in too much detail. You choose to draw the line at Tyson and fair play to you for sticking to your guns both now and back in 1998, you're a better man than me!

Noelisgod

me-skywalker wrote: »

Havnt watched wrestlign in about 2 years. The draw for Bret was immense so obviously I watched it.... but I wont be watching it again!! Terrible terrible programming now.

Ads every 5mins.. ads during matches... barely any matches at all. Too many segments. and some baad segments.

Il just havea read online to see what they do with Bret but coudlnt be arsed even then. Its done with now they've obviously kissed and made up to make a rake load of money.

i agree the situation with the ads is nuts they are non stop _ normal ads live event
ads health and safety ads constant replays of previous week where is the wrestling ffs