Job or Family?

Bonito

Hey all, right let's get the ball rolling. I live at home with parents and younger siblings, only 18. I started a new job 3 weeks ago, I leave my house at 8 in the morning and wont get home til about half 12 and sometimes even one in the morning (registered as self employed so I can work these hours) I do this 6 days a week and if I head out on a sat night I don't get to see my family for the whole week basically, people say they'd love to have my drive to achieve in life, but really they don't, I miss my family big time and it really hit home xmas week when my dad hugged me and said 'jaysus there's my son who I haven't seen in ages, he hasn't hugged me in years.

I know i'm going to get the 'you should be glad to have a job in the recession' etc etc but put yourself in my shoes and imagine having to go a week or even two without seeing a wink of your family when they live in the same house as you!

All week i've been seriously considering leaving work and staying home so I can take care of my younger sis (takes a massive weight off dad's shoulders as he's getting older and works his absolute bollox off) and also means I can see my family a lot more, at least til I find a more flexible job.

What would you do if you were in my situation?

Walls

What industry are you in that you work such hours? Even if you can get home by six most evenings that would go some way to solving the problem.

Bonito

Unfortunately not an option, im a sales rep, I'm in the office 'til about 2, then go door to door while ppl are getting in from work,school runs etc, then head back to office at about half 8, break down the day, file the sales sheets etc and then head home, the hours I have can't be changed otherwise I'd have no customers meaning no income.

Zaph

I'm sorry, but no job is worth working those sort of hours. It's bad enough that you don't get to see your family, but I've seen the effects it has on the health of someone I know who worked for a company that sounds very similar to your employers. He basically was a wreck after about 6 months in the job and after he left he needed a month off before he could even think about looking for another job. I know jobs are hard to come by these days, but I would reconsider my priorities if I were you.

Bonito

Luckily my priorities are still family, and also luckily I have only started the job a couple weeks, I had no idea I'd be doing these sort of hours and having to make such hefty decisions and choices. As much as I am very mature for my age I'm still only 18 and don't really want these sort of hours and sacrifices at such a young age.

chocgirl

Yikes that's a lot to be doing at 18, is it your own business? You'd want to be earning serious money to make it worthwhile.

Bonito

I'm basically my own boss, but I work on behalf of a company, that's why they make you register yourself as self employed (I have til april to do this though) so you can work ridiculous hours, and yes the money I have been bringing in is top notch, although I have no time to spend it :rolleyes: worst case scenario is, I stay too long, register as self employed with the tax office, decide I don't want to do it anymore, quit, then have no entitlement to social as I was self employed.

muboop1

Bonito wrote: »

Unfortunately not an option, im a sales rep, I'm in the office 'til about 2, then go door to door while ppl are getting in from work,school runs etc, then head back to office at about half 8, break down the day, file the sales sheets etc and then head home, the hours I have can't be changed otherwise I'd have no customers meaning no income.

No way you could mention the name of your company is it?

Just ringing a serious alarm bell with me here as a job a mate of mine done...

If you arent comfortable with telling me the name could you pm me it?

Again I could be wrong, just your thing set off something in my head...

Bonito

dont worry muboop1 everything is genuine, i work in a branch office of a global company called <snip>,think it was founded in australia,but they're trading name in ireland is <snip>:)

LegacyUser

Bonito wrote: »

Unfortunately not an option, im a sales rep, I'm in the office 'til about 2, then go door to door while ppl are getting in from work,school runs etc, then head back to office at about half 8, break down the day, file the sales sheets etc and then head home, the hours I have can't be changed otherwise I'd have no customers meaning no income.

Going unreg'd but listen, I know exactly what your working at and it will cost you friends and family and the gain is not worth it. No matter how much they tell you about promotions and opening your own offices etc

My best friend did it for 6 months till one day he turned around and had no friends left as work took all his time, his family never saw him and he has actually worked stupid hours only to end up in debt.

My advice from someone who has seen it - get a 9-5 job and enjoy your life and age!

LegacyUser

Bonito wrote: »

dont worry muboop1 everything is genuine, i work in a branch office of a global company called <snip>,think it was founded in australia,but they're trading name in ireland is <snip>:)

Didn't see that, but its exactly who I was talking about.
They are trading under several names here and they have a very clever system to ensure your no employed by them....

I swear, its not worth it for a second. Google them, you'll find a huge thread on Scams.com to explain how they work.

Again from someone who has seen a mate go through it and get no where, rememeber your family and friends are everything in life!

Darthhoob

those hours are seriously stupid. 8am till midnight/1am??? that gives you no time to have any kind of actual life...it doesn't even give you enough time to sleep really...esp at your age. YET AONE isolating you from your family and friends. i woudn't do that for the biggest salary in the world lol.....ESPECIALLY 6 days a week :eek:

you ar obviously hard working and that will fare you well in the world. but not this way. you are only human and humans need time not working.

work to live, not live to work.

personally i'd jack it in and find something else...no matter how long it took. at least you are still living at home so dont have the problem of all the bills and mortgage/rent etc etc. you're only 18...that will be on your side too...but not if you run yourself into the ground

Bonito

Thanks for all replies Mods may close up thread if they wish or they may leave it open for more opinions, either way I've confirmed I'm making a good decision

Midnight_EG

I'd honestly hate to tarnish boards.ie's name by making somebody give up their job with so called 'advice' from the website.

OP, make your own decision on this, it's totally up to you and what you feel is right.

banquo

Is this that job selling stuff door to door out of suitcases? , now the name of some pokemon I can't remember (possibly Onyx). They're slave drivers, take all your earnings and then drop you like that. I hope it's not them you're working for. If so, don't let them - or any company - take advantage of you like that.

Walls

Okay, well that seems pretty clear. You're free to remove yourself from this place with no negative consequences in terms of your CV, they seem up to no good. The only thing is to get a new job, but it seems to be a better idea than the current set up you have.

Danniboo

Hey,

Plenty of people move away to college at your age and work weekends as I did myself and don't get too see much of their family, so I really can't understand why you feel this is such an issue. It's just life. While it's not ideal I think you need your head examined to give up a job just to see your family more. I know you miss them and it's hard but if you're self employed and have a good job at 18 years of age, then personally I think it would be really foolish to give that up. Do you work weekends aswell?

Penn

8am-12am 6 days a week? Registered as self-employed?

I know you're 18, but think about it. This is not good by anyones standards. Companies like that take advantage of young people and make the job sound great, but thats just not worth it. It might be tough finding another job, and even then, the money might not be as good. But you're 18. You shouldn't be signing your soul away yet. Normally, I wouldn't advise anyone to leave their job based on what little information I have about you, but you're essentially working 14-16 hours a day, 6 days a week, which is about 90 hours a week.

Registering you as 'self-employed' means they can make you do this. Any other company with morals would have shift work going (8-4... 4-12)

Sorry, but I think you really need to leave

ManOfMystery

Many moons ago, when I was 19, I was in a similar position. Joined a sales company, did quite well initially but soon found that the hours were just likes yours - 8am to midnight 6 days a week, and a few hours on a Sunday as well. I lasted about 3 months before a combination of weight loss, exhaustion and my parents telling me to wise up triggered a moment of clarity on my part.

It's very easy to get into an extremely intensive sales role and suddenly forget about the crazy hours you're doing - all focus goes on the job. But it will catch up eventually, and life is too short to be spending it working all the hours God sends.

And where does it get you? When I opened my eyes and thought about things, I realised that I could spend my whole life working 7 days a week and when it comes to retirement time, I'll be quickly forgotten and someone else will fill my shoes. Unless you're a President or a pop star or whatever, that's actually the way most jobs end - quickly forgotten.

So, put your health and your family first and foremost, and job second. If you haven't already done so, get out of this job - it's not worth it.

Peggypeg

Danniboo wrote: »

Hey,

Plenty of people move away to college at your age and work weekends as I did myself and don't get too see much of their family, so I really can't understand why you feel this is such an issue. It's just life. While it's not ideal I think you need your head examined to give up a job just to see your family more. I know you miss them and it's hard but if you're self employed and have a good job at 18 years of age, then personally I think it would be really foolish to give that up. Do you work weekends aswell?

Danniboo you really should actually read people's post's before replying. The OP said in his opening post that he works 6 days a week for 12 - 16 hours a day.

Hey OP, I think you have your head well screwed on, fair play to you for being such a hard worker but these types of companies rarely reward hard work, they use you up and throw you away, I think you're making the right decision by leaving. Best of luck to you!

ash23

A few years ago I was in a similar position. I was 19 and working 2 jobs and also going to college.
It was fine for a while but like you, I began missing out. I wasn't seeing family, friends etc. I had no time for study and my health suffered after a few months. I wasn't eating right or sleeping right. I got every infection going and was always at the doctors. I eventually collapsed.

I now work 9 to 5 monday to friday. Plenty of time for friends and family and I am a single parent now. Money is tighter but I'm happier and haven't been sick in years touch wood.

It's totally your decision but money isn't everything imo.

Danniboo

Peggypeg wrote: »

Danniboo you really should actually read people's post's before replying. The OP said in his opening post that he works 6 days a week for 12 - 16 hours a day.

Hey OP, I think you have your head well screwed on, fair play to you for being such a hard worker but these types of companies rarely reward hard work, they use you up and throw you away, I think you're making the right decision by leaving. Best of luck to you!

Where in that statement does it declare what days he works you really should think before you go slating peoples responses. he might only work sunday it doesn't say he works Saturday and Sunday aka the "weekend". :rolleyes:. Encouraging people to pack up a job without having one to fall back on is ridiculous.

Chinafoot

Danniboo wrote: »

Where in that statement does it declare what days he works you really should think before you go slating peoples responses. he might only work sunday it doesn't say he works Saturday and Sunday aka the "weekend". :rolleyes:. Encouraging people to pack up a job without having one to fall back on is ridiculous.

Equally it could be argued that encouraging an 18 year old to register as self-employed and work mental hours for a dodgy sales company is ridiculous. Do a quick google for this lot and it brings up plenty of threads. I worked for a similar company when I was in Australia and it was incredibly dodgy. The OP even pointed out himself that if it goes tits up or he leaves he'll have no chance getting help from the social.

The the OP, you've said yourself that you don't want to be doing these hours and feel you're too young for it. That answers your question. As another poster pointed out, you're 18 and living at home with no mortgage or kids. You don't need to be doing these crazy hours. If you are genuinely making good money from it perhaps you could consider doing it for a few more weeks and saving what you earn so you can live off that while you look for something else?

Danniboo

Chinafoot wrote: »

Equally it could be argued that encouraging an 18 year old to register as self-employed and work mental hours for a dodgy sales company is ridiculous. Do a quick google for this lot and it brings up plenty of threads. I worked for a similar company when I was in Australia and it was incredibly dodgy. The OP even pointed out himself that if it goes tits up or he leaves he'll have no chance getting help from the social.

The the OP, you've said yourself that you don't want to be doing these hours and feel you're too young for it. That answers your question. As another poster pointed out, you're 18 and living at home with no mortgage or kids. You don't need to be doing these crazy hours. If you are genuinely making good money from it perhaps you could consider doing it for a few more weeks and saving what you earn so you can live off that while you look for something else?

That's true but at the end of the day we all have to work, if he is in a dodgy job then look for a new one, but jumping ship and depending on his parents to support him financially until and if he gets another job isn't the best solution.

Chinafoot

Danniboo wrote: »

That's true but at the end of the day we all have to work, if he is in a dodgy job then look for a new one, but jumping ship and depending on his parents to support him financially until and if he gets another job isn't the best solution.

I agree, but thats entirely dependent on his family's financial situation. His family might prefer to support the OP until he gets another job instead of seeing him run himself into the ground for little reward.

He should speak to his parents and see what they think.

unreggd

OP, if you're an independent contractor you can choose your own hours

So even one day off mid week would go a long way for you

Penn

Danniboo wrote: »

That's true but at the end of the day we all have to work, if he is in a dodgy job then look for a new one, but jumping ship and depending on his parents to support him financially until and if he gets another job isn't the best solution.

And if he works 16 hours a day, 6 days a week, when is he going to have time to look for a job? Some people find a job quite quickly. Just lucky. I know over a year ago I was unemployed for 3 months and spent about 8 hours a day looking for a job before I found one.

Danniboo

paddyirishman85 wrote: »

And if he works 16 hours a day, 6 days a week, when is he going to have time to look for a job? Some people find a job quite quickly. Just lucky. I know over a year ago I was unemployed for 3 months and spent about 8 hours a day looking for a job before I found one.

Last I checked there's 7 days in the week. Also a marvellous tool called the internet. Has no one else noticed we're in the middle of a recession.
If the OP quits his job now he might struggle to get another one and besides it's always easier to get a job when you're already working. I'm amazed with the state of the country people are so flippant to say sure just quit.

John Mason

the know the company the OP works for, it is a commision only job, so if he doesnt work, he doesnt get paid.

also this self-employed bit is a scam, the company tell you that you are self-employed so they dont have to deal with your taxes.

OP,if you register as self-employed and you realise the scam you are working in, you will not be entitled to social welfare, you also need to remember you are not paying any PRSI at the moment and therefore there still be will problems when you try to sign on.

If you do registered as self-employed make sure you are putting money aside to pay the taxes you should be paying, you will also need to get an accountant to sort our tax returns

Penn

Danniboo wrote: »

Last I checked there's 7 days in the week. Also a marvellous tool called the internet. Has no one else noticed we're in the middle of a recession.
If the OP quits his job now he might struggle to get another one and besides it's always easier to get a job when you're already working. I'm amazed with the state of the country people are so flippant to say sure just quit.

Nobody is being flippant. As most of us have said, normally, we wouldn't advise anyone to quit their job. But people have given examples of friends who were in similar situations with the same company or similar organisations.

Yes, there is 7 days in the week. Yet the OP's problem is that he never sees his friends or family because of the hours he works. The amount of time it could take to find a job would leave him even less time. Like I said, I was unemployed for 3 months. I spent 8 hours a day on the internet looking for jobs. With the little time the OP has to spare, it could take years. Or he could be lucky. Who knows?

The OP is 18, and is currently working about 90 hours a week. Thats just not right.

OP, it may be really difficult to find another job. It may take months, and you may be pretty broke. Nobody here knows enough about your situation to be able to say one way or another that you should stay or that you should quit. You just have to ask yourself if you want to continue in your present situation, and how you'd cope if you quit and were unemployed for a few months.

Good luck

muboop1

Bonito wrote: »

dont worry muboop1 everything is genuine, i work in a branch office of a global company called <snip>,think it was founded in australia,but they're trading name in ireland is <snip>:)

ok, if your happy working there that is fine...
But please do yourself a favour and read this:

<snip>

There are many like it if you search.

Genuinely worth it.

I also have a mate who worked there... showed her this, she agreed and fixed it all... done her the world of good!

Edit -

Worth noting that report i sent you, the first comment below it is someone who worked for <snip> and gives their opinions on the work.

Danniboo

paddyirishman85 wrote: »

Nobody is being flippant. As most of us have said, normally, we wouldn't advise anyone to quit their job. But people have given examples of friends who were in similar situations with the same company or similar organisations.

Yes, there is 7 days in the week. Yet the OP's problem is that he never sees his friends or family because of the hours he works. The amount of time it could take to find a job would leave him even less time. Like I said, I was unemployed for 3 months. I spent 8 hours a day on the internet looking for jobs. With the little time the OP has to spare, it could take years. Or he could be lucky. Who knows?

The OP is 18, and is currently working about 90 hours a week. Thats just not right.

OP, it may be really difficult to find another job. It may take months, and you may be pretty broke. Nobody here knows enough about your situation to be able to say one way or another that you should stay or that you should quit. You just have to ask yourself if you want to continue in your present situation, and how you'd cope if you quit and were unemployed for a few months.

Good luck

Yes it will take more of his time up but will be worth it when he gets another job, if he hates his situation that much he wont mind doing this. If the OP quits and doesn't find a job what will that do to his self esteem and ambition, living at home and being unemployed is not going to make anyone happy.

Penn

Danniboo wrote: »

Yes it will take more of his time up but will be worth it when he gets another job, if he hates his situation that much he wont mind doing this. If the OP quits and doesn't find a job what will that do to his self esteem and ambition, living at home and being unemployed is not going to make anyone happy.

Look, none of us can predict the future. The OP could quit and spend 6 months looking for a job before finding one. Or he could look for one on his day off and find one after 2 weeks. Nobody knows. The only thing is, which would they be happier doing? And that's a question that neither me, you or anyone else here apart from the OP can answer

Danniboo

paddyirishman85 wrote: »

Look, none of us can predict the future. The OP could quit and spend 6 months looking for a job before finding one. Or he could look for one on his day off and find one after 2 weeks. Nobody knows. The only thing is, which would they be happier doing? And that's a question that neither me, you or anyone else here apart from the OP can answer

Exactly so why are you contradicting my posts when i'm just voicing my opinion and what I would do.

Midnight_EG

Danniboo wrote: »

Exactly so why are you contradicting my posts when i'm just voicing my opinion and what I would do.

Because this thread isn't about you, it's about Bonito.

Danniboo

Midnight_EG wrote: »

Because this thread isn't about you, it's about Bonito.

Wtf???? I'm as entitled to offer my opinion as the next person. So by posting here we must all think this thread is about ourselves, would you ever grow up. What exactly do you think advice is our knowledge and reasoning based on our own personal experiences in life. If you put your hand in a fire and got burnt would you advice the next person to put their hand in a fire.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Op, if you sit on the dole for a year or two you will have a better understanding of how important this job actually is. Most here that say "oh quit your job, spend time with your family" probably have it very easy, and have done most of their lives. Truth of the matter is, if you can afford it, then you can quit it, but can you afford it? Are your family wealthy? Will they support you? Buy you that big TV, that car, that trip to America? etc etc.

I suggest not listening to the fools who so happily live out of their partners, friends or parents pockets. Most of them probably never worked a day in their lives. A proper days work. Stick with it, it will pay off in the end. Don't give up like some other idiots would...

Harrison Sour Fiddle

Harrison Sour Fiddle wrote: »

Op, if you sit on the dole for a year or two you will have a better understanding of how important this job actually is. Most here that say "oh quit your job, spend time with your family" probably have it very easy, and have done most of their lives. Truth of the matter is, if you can afford it, then you can quit it, but can you afford it? Are your family wealthy? Will they support you? Buy you that big TV, that car, that trip to America? etc etc.

I suggest not listening to the fools who so happily live out of their partners, friends or parents pockets. Most of them probably never worked a day in their lives. A proper days work. Stick with it, it will pay off in the end. Don't give up like some other idiots would...

Just.......no. These 'sales' companies are absolute scams. I went on a training day once out of curiosity more than anything, and I could barely make it through the day. Why would you put yourself through that? It's not as if it's just 8 hours a day and then he can do his own thing, it's taking over his entire life. I don't know anyone who would expect their parents to pay for cars or trips to America, but they might be able to provide food and shelter while he looks for something else. Normally I don't like when adults live off their parents but in this case, he's getting seriously screwed. It might be a recession but there are many better jobs than this around.

ash23

Harrison Sour Fiddle wrote: »

Op, if you sit on the dole for a year or two you will have a better understanding of how important this job actually is. Most here that say "oh quit your job, spend time with your family" probably have it very easy, and have done most of their lives. Truth of the matter is, if you can afford it, then you can quit it, but can you afford it? Are your family wealthy? Will they support you? Buy you that big TV, that car, that trip to America? etc etc.

I suggest not listening to the fools who so happily live out of their partners, friends or parents pockets. Most of them probably never worked a day in their lives. A proper days work. Stick with it, it will pay off in the end. Don't give up like some other idiots would...

To be fair, you have no idea how easy or hard people have had it in their lives. Mine certainly has been far from easy. Poverty is a real thing.
And I value my job but I dont' believe in living to work.
Once OP has enough money to keep a roof over his head and food in his stomach then that is all that matters. The big TV, the car, the trip to America.....it's all meaningless stuff.
Family, friends and health....that is what is important in life. Not material wealth. I can assure you that any multi millionaire with a terminal illness would give it all up for their health in return.

I've gone from poverty, to comfort, to wealth and back to just above poverty. I could work all the hours god sends and have a few more bob in the bank but for what? A life spent in the office? A big house I never get to chill out in? A child I never see but who has all the mod cons? A relationship that crumbles because I'm never home.
Frig that! I'd rather have my life thanks.
Evenings spent watching dvds and drinking €4 bottles of wine with friends, weekends spent at the park with my kid, living off tuna and pasta for a few days so I can have a good night out......I'd prefer it anyday over being a slave to my job!

Penn

Harrison Sour Fiddle wrote: »

Op, if you sit on the dole for a year or two you will have a better understanding of how important this job actually is. Most here that say "oh quit your job, spend time with your family" probably have it very easy, and have done most of their lives. Truth of the matter is, if you can afford it, then you can quit it, but can you afford it? Are your family wealthy? Will they support you? Buy you that big TV, that car, that trip to America? etc etc.

I suggest not listening to the fools who so happily live out of their partners, friends or parents pockets. Most of them probably never worked a day in their lives. A proper days work. Stick with it, it will pay off in the end. Don't give up like some other idiots would...

None of us are saying the OP should just quit and sit at home living off other peoples incomes. I for one would never even consider that to be an option. We're advising him that, if he is on such good money, yet has little time to spend it, he could live off it for a while and look for a new job. If he doesn't have a lot put by, perhaps stay in the job for a few weeks and save up so he can afford not to be a burden on family.

Also, I'd like to add that, I don't like my job. I commute over an hour each way. I leave before 7 and I'm not home until after 7. And some days, I really really hate my job. But I won't quit. Because despite it all, I don't think it's bad enough to warrant quitting. I'm 24, and I need the money, which is decent enough. I'm earning less now full time than I did in my previous job where I was only part-time.

The OP on the other hand, like I said, we don't know the full story. But 16 hours a day, 6 days a week, at 18 years old, for an unreputable company probably with little to no career options. Sorry, but no. Just no. No way would I ever put up with that

Chinafoot

Harrison Sour Fiddle wrote: »

Op, if you sit on the dole for a year or two you will have a better understanding of how important this job actually is. Most here that say "oh quit your job, spend time with your family" probably have it very easy, and have done most of their lives. Truth of the matter is, if you can afford it, then you can quit it, but can you afford it? Are your family wealthy? Will they support you? Buy you that big TV, that car, that trip to America? etc etc.

Big, massive, huge leap from "you're being screwed, you should look for something else" to "yeah sign on, stay at home and let your mam and dad pay for everything for you. Sure why not piss off to New York for a summer and let mam and dad pay?" Get a grip.

Harrison Sour Fiddle wrote: »

I suggest not listening to the fools who so happily live out of their partners, friends or parents pockets. Most of them probably never worked a day in their lives. A proper days work. Stick with it, it will pay off in the end. Don't give up like some other idiots would...

Fools and idiots? Are you kidding me? I've worked since I was 14 years of age. I paid 3k for my final year of secondary school myself, I worked 2 jobs so I could go to Australia, I worked all through college, and now I'm in a stable job and pay my own rent and bills. I have never not had a job and one of those jobs that I did have was for a company like this and its a complete and utter scam.

The OP works on commission only so in order to make this money he needs to work stupid hours. He will be told how brilliant he is and how he'll be "promoted" but there will be feck all change in his pay. He has to register as self-employed so that this company don't need to sort out his tax for him. I have seen people in these companies end up in debt to the revenue. He will have no help from the social if it goes tits up. The OP doesn't want to work these hours and he wants to see his family. That doesn't make him an idiot.

Nobody has told him to jack it in and sit on his hole sponging off everyone around him.

Victor

Harrison Sour Fiddle wrote: »

Op, if you sit on the dole for a year or two you will have a better understanding of how important this job actually is. Most here that say "oh quit your job, spend time with your family" probably have it very easy, and have done most of their lives. Truth of the matter is, if you can afford it, then you can quit it, but can you afford it? Are your family wealthy? Will they support you? Buy you that big TV, that car, that trip to America? etc etc.

I suggest not listening to the fools who so happily live out of their partners, friends or parents pockets. Most of them probably never worked a day in their lives. A proper days work. Stick with it, it will pay off in the end. Don't give up like some other idiots would...

Can you ease up on the comments about other people?

Bonito

ash23 wrote: »

To be fair, you have no idea how easy or hard people have had it in their lives. Mine certainly has been far from easy. Poverty is a real thing.
And I value my job but I dont' believe in living to work.
Once OP has enough money to keep a roof over his head and food in his stomach then that is all that matters. The big TV, the car, the trip to America.....it's all meaningless stuff.
Family, friends and health....that is what is important in life. Not material wealth. I can assure you that any multi millionaire with a terminal illness would give it all up for their health in return.

I've gone from poverty, to comfort, to wealth and back to just above poverty. I could work all the hours god sends and have a few more bob in the bank but for what? A life spent in the office? A big house I never get to chill out in? A child I never see but who has all the mod cons? A relationship that crumbles because I'm never home.
Frig that! I'd rather have my life thanks.
Evenings spent watching dvds and drinking €4 bottles of wine with friends, weekends spent at the park with my kid, living off tuna and pasta for a few days so I can have a good night out......I'd prefer it anyday over being a slave to my job!

Fair does to you thanks for the reply you've hit the nail on the head and that's EXACTLY what's happening with me, especially the last paragraph!

As to all who have posted thank you, I didn't expect such numerous and full hearted replies!

As to quitting and 'sponging' this is very very very far from truth with me, I have worked with my father since I was 12, unfortunately if I were to work with him at present he can only afford to keep me wknds.

Due to my early working years I have a safety net of savings to tick me over 'til I find a more suitable job, so therefore I wont be sponging off parents, I never have and never will. I've been independant since I was 14, since then my parents have only ever had to dip into pockets for food etc, I have always paid for clothes, runners, my holidays, my car, my insurance etc etc etc

I don't have a lavish lifestyle either, I'm pretty laid back and simple things keep me happy, for example I love it when my grandad randomly buys me socks in Guineys and penneys

I will now begin thanking all of you individually, but that's only if I liked your post :P

Zaph

Bonito, just to let you know that I've removed the name of the company you work for from your post and any later posts quoting it, just to ensure there are no potential difficulties later on should someone from there come across this thread.

I know you asked for the thread to be closed earlier, but that appears to have been missed. Let me know if you still want it closed, otherwise I'll leave it open.

Bonito

Thanks for that Zaph, I see no harm in leaving it open so it's at your discretion

I'm presuming you read the link left by muboop1 and seen how this said company's reputation stands for the way it treats certain people? tbh the further I get into this company the figures of the high rollers and VP's somewhat scare me and there seems to be something very odd about it all, I have run it by my parents and they have said they didn't want me doing this in the first place and are happy with my decision to leave, it's all a learning process in the journey of life, and they'd rather let me realise matters like this myself rather than just telling me.

I'll still have my health Think i'll help round the house more and join the gym so I have something that gives me time to myself and keep me motivated

Zaph

I'll leave it open so, you never know, you might get some more useful advice later.

Good luck with whatever you end up doing. You seem to have your head screwed on and are more motivated than most 18 year olds I've come across (including myself at that age), so I've no doubt you'll do well for yourself.

dellas1979

Erm....well I just have something to ask/add - I did try read through the whole post for the answer but couldnt find it.

You work long hours around 6 days a week.

What would happen if you worked 5 days a week, say a 39hr week? Would it simply be a case of you earning less or would you actually get in trouble with the company i.e. you HAVE to earn X for these guys/franchise a week/month/year (a target per say). In essence, is it possible for you to work less hours, even if you have a fall in income (at least until you find something else)?

I left a job once without having something else lined up (due to commuting long distance), and I should never have done this. I should have kept going until I found something else. From my own experience, Ive always advised people to have something else lined up if they are willingly leaving a job (not always possible I know). But each to their own.

Bonito

dellas1979 wrote: »

Erm....well I just have something to ask/add - I did try read through the whole post for the answer but couldnt find it.

You work long hours around 6 days a week.

What would happen if you worked 5 days a week, say a 39hr week? Would it simply be a case of you earning less or would you actually get in trouble with the company i.e. you HAVE to earn X for these guys/franchise a week/month/year (a target per say). In essence, is it possible for you to work less hours, even if you have a fall in income (at least until you find something else)?

I left a job once without having something else lined up (due to commuting long distance), and I should never have done this. I should have kept going until I found something else. From my own experience, Ive always advised people to have something else lined up if they are willingly leaving a job (not always possible I know). But each to their own.

unless i have been handcuffed to my bed by 3 gorgeous women and they throw away the keys and leav me there i HAVE to work 6 days a week, unless i sell more dan weekly quota, but sales are too unpredictable for that craic, if i dont be 'serious' about the job they cut off ties and want nothing to do wit u, they want me making as much money as i can, more hours = more sales, meaning more money for their pockets.

But in saying that its commission only, no basic wage, hence getting away with it by having us register as self employed. If i dont work i dont get paid, simple as.

LegacyUser

Bonito wrote: »

But in saying that its commission only, no basic wage, hence getting away with it by having us register as self employed. If i dont work i dont get paid, simple as.

And that way they don't have to pay employers tax, PRSI, vacation pay, sick pay etc etc etc, its actually a clever way to get people to do all the work for you, while making them think they are their own boss.