VRT disgraceful

colm88

My brother who lives in the UK has been offered a job in Bahrain starting in Feb. He had been trying to sell his car for a few weeks to no avail. I was offered the car very cheap considering what he paid for it and decided to think about it over Christmas before making a decision. I didnt give much thought to the whole vrt issue although my brother did mention it would be quite expensive to import to Ireland, still I imagined it would be a couple of grand say €3-€4k max ?

Ive just checked the vrt online and its €12,493 euros. OMG :eek:

This is absolutely disgraceful, who decides these crazy prices ? Im shocked. Has anyone on here actually ever paid an excessive vrt payment like this ? this is wrong if not illegal ?.

Ive heard people complain about vrt before but never paid much attention to the issue I always thought a vrt payment was between a few hundred euro upto a max of around €4-€5K for a prestige saloon,suv etc ?.

I find it very annoying that revenue can charge extortionate rates like this and effectively hold people to ransom for the fee. So I can afford the car but I cant afford to pay a ridiculous vrt rate. Id walk before paying them that amount.

Ireland has become a bad place to live.

parsi

colm88 wrote: »

Shock.... outrage... disgust... gutted.... Joe Duffy ... didn't bother doing any planning ... oops..

A quick visit to the Revenue site would have enabled you to calculate the VRT due before you concluded the deal.

http://www.revenue.ie/en/online/vrt-calculator.html

marinbike

colm88 wrote: »

My brother who lives in the UK has been offered a job in Bahrain starting in Feb. He had been trying to sell his car for a few weeks to no avail. I was offered the car very cheap considering what he paid for it and decided to think about it over Christmas before making a decision. I didnt give much thought to the whole vrt issue although my brother did mention it would be quite expensive to import to Ireland, still I imagined it would be a couple of grand say €3-€4k max ?

Ive just checked the vrt online and its €12,493 euros. OMG :eek:

This is absolutely disgraceful, who decides these crazy prices ? Im shocked. Has anyone on here actually ever paid an excessive vrt payment like this ? this is wrong if not illegal ?.

Ive heard people complain about vrt before but never paid much attention to the issue I always thought a vrt payment was between a few hundred euro upto a max of around €4-€5K for a prestige saloon,suv etc ?.

I find it very annoying that revenue can charge extortionate rates like this and effectively hold people to ransom for the fee. So I can afford the car but I cant afford to pay a ridiculous vrt rate. Id walk before paying them that amount.

Ireland has become a bad place to live.

If you exchange your licence for a uk one, you can still drive the car over here without registering it. You'd be crazy registering it over here because the annual Road Tax rates in this country are among the highest in the EU. Plus you get no services for the road tax over here.

neilthefunkeone

Well its calculated on a percentage of the cars worth over here.. what car is it by the way?? Can you buy the similar car in ireland for the same price it is to buy in uk and vrt it? Prob not.. whats your complaint??

jor el

colm88 wrote: »

Ive just checked the vrt online and its €12,493 euros. OMG :eek:

This is absolutely disgraceful, who decides these crazy prices ? Im shocked. Has anyone on here actually ever paid an excessive vrt payment like this ? this is wrong if not illegal ?.

VRT is calculated as a percentage of the vehicle value, and varies by CO2 emissions. The rates are between 14 and 36%. If the value of the car is high, and/or the CO2 emissions are high, then the VRT will be high. How is it wrong or illegal to apply tax?

If it's too much to pay, don't buy the car.

marinbike wrote: »

If you exchange your licence for a uk one, you can still drive the car over here without registering it. You'd be crazy registering it over here because the annual Road Tax rates in this country are among the highest in the EU. Plus you get no services for the road tax over here.

You pay motor tax, not road tax. Having a UK licence does not make it OK to drive a UK registered car here. If you live here, you must register the car here, and pay appropriate taxes. What you're telling him to do is tax evasion, on both the VRT and subsequent motor tax. Both are illegal, and your car can be seized by customs and excise officers, if they so desire.

drunkmonkey

colm88 wrote: »

Has anyone on here actually ever paid an excessive vrt payment like this ? .

Yes I have, what you need to do is establish the current market value of the car here and then work out the correct vrt, you'll have to pay the VRT but then you can appeal it, and if your figures are correct you should get the difference back I did. It took about 3mts before they sent me the cheque.

What car are you looking at? year, model etc?

diamondtooth

VRT is basically an import tax but they can't call it that.

Could your brother come back here with the car first? If he has lived in the UK for over 1 year and has owned the car in the UK for over 6 months he won't have to pay VRT. Then he could register it here in his name and the sell it to you. Would be a fantastic saving if it could be done.

mcaul

If you're being quoted €12k + for VRT then the car must have a value of €35k+

If not, simply appeal the valuation.

If the car was registered in the UK from January 2008, then the new emmissions based VRT & road tax are applied. These are much fairer especailly for diesel cars & small cars. (BMW 520d = 16% + €160/ year road tax)

If the car was a pre 2008 car then it must be top of the range merc or landrover to have a value of €35k + these days considering the drop in secondhand values.

ejmaztec

Isn't it possible that, given car prices have dropped like a brick, the same year and model of car in question might cost a lot less here than the VRTd total cost?

parsi

ejmaztec wrote: »

Isn't it possible that, given car prices have dropped like a brick, the same year and model of car in question might cost a lot less here than the VRTd total cost?

Impossible. Absolutely everything is way cheaper in the UK. Absolutely everything.

nobeastsofierce

parsi wrote: »

Impossible. Absolutely everything is way cheaper in the UK. Absolutely everything.

The question was, is it cheaper, after factoring in the VRT?

parsi

I was being cynical..

nobeastsofierce

parsi wrote: »

I was being cynical..

Apologies

ejmaztec

parsi wrote: »

Impossible. Absolutely everything is way cheaper in the UK. Absolutely everything.

You might find something after you've prayed at the holy stump.

marinbike

jor el wrote: »

You pay motor tax, not road tax. Having a UK licence does not make it OK to drive a UK registered car here. If you live here, you must register the car here, and pay appropriate taxes. What you're telling him to do is tax evasion, on both the VRT and subsequent motor tax. Both are illegal, and your car can be seized by customs and excise officers, if they so desire.

call it motor tax so then, but its still a rip off. What you aren't aware of is that there are several ways around having to register a foreign Licensed vehicle in this country. The op can PM me and I'll fill him/her in on the ways of doing this. I don't want to do it over the open in case the Revenue guys get knowledge of it.

Quick note:

The European Union was set up to promote harmonization and also to promote free trade between the various member states. This also has a bearing on customs. The motor tax rates in the UK are set at affordable levels, over here they're not. Irish motor tax keeps increasing also.

If you go over to France, there are thousands of German and Spanish reg vehicles, some passers through, some living there. Also, if anyone holds EU MS Licence, they can exchange it for any other EU memer state Licence without having to do any driving test.

The car cannot be seized by customs/excise officers if the reasons I give are mentioned. (My brother used to work for Revenue).

jap gt

diamondtooth wrote: »

VRT is basically an import tax but they can't call it that.

Could your brother come back here with the car first? If he has lived in the UK for over 1 year and has owned the car in the UK for over 6 months he won't have to pay VRT. Then he could register it here in his name and the sell it to you. Would be a fantastic saving if it could be done.

cant be done like this, he has to have residence in ireland for a year and cant sell the car for a year once he gets here

colm88

neilthefunkeone wrote: »

Well its calculated on a percentage of the cars worth over here.. what car is it by the way?? Can you buy the similar car in ireland for the same price it is to buy in uk and vrt it? Prob not.. whats your complaint??

Car is a 2009 Ford Focus RS, 2.5L, 3dr.

Cheapest for same model here in Ireland is €38,000.

"whats your complaint?" If you read my post properly you,ll see my complaint is having to pay €12K plus to vrt a car its ridiculous.

colm88

parsi wrote: »

A quick visit to the Revenue site would have enabled you to calculate the VRT due before you concluded the deal.

http://www.revenue.ie/en/online/vrt-calculator.html

Yes well thats quite obvious. The point I was making is the excessive vrt cost.

mcaul

colm88 wrote: »

Car is a 2009 Ford Focus RS, 2.5L, 3dr.

Cheapest for same model here in Ireland is €38,000.

"whats your complaint?" If you read my post properly you,ll see my complaint is having to pay €12K plus to vrt a car its ridiculous.

The car is a high performance car that has a high level of emissions thus its cosidered a polluter and the car tax system is based on polluter pays most.

So unfortunately the quote is probably correct and there's no way around it. - Some may tell you there are ways around it, but revenue & customs have fairly strong powers of seizure and it will be for you to prove your case rather than vice versa.

A better car is probably a new 2010 BMW 320d which would be cheaper and would have annual road tax of €150 and 60 mpg!

colm88

jor el wrote: »

VRT is calculated as a percentage of the vehicle value, and varies by CO2 emissions. The rates are between 14 and 36%. If the value of the car is high, and/or the CO2 emissions are high, then the VRT will be high. How is it wrong or illegal to apply tax?

(If it's too much to pay, don't buy the car) = Eh Its not the car thats expensive is it ?

(How is it wrong or illegal to apply tax? ) = We are already taxed on our earnings road tax and vat on goods and services.


VRT is very wrong there can be no justification in charging such extortionate fees to register a vehicle. The effect of VRT implemented by the 1992 Finance Act circumvented an EU prohibition on customs duty. Customs duty on vehicles disappeared on the 31st December 1992 and the following day a new tax called VRT replaced it. This was brought about by the action of the people we voted for, our Oireachtas and effectively overrode EU law. This it cannot do because EU law is supreme in terms of community matters and in the promotion of free movement of goods, fundamental freedoms under the Treaty of Rome and the implementation of the Single European Market.

gerrycollins

i read somewhere last year that the EU is taking ireland to the courts over this however as usual it will take years to sort it out

testicle

gerrycollins wrote: »

i read somewhere last year that the EU is taking ireland to the courts over this however as usual it will take years to sort it out

No they're not.

ejmaztec

colm88 wrote: »

jor el wrote: »

VRT is calculated as a percentage of the vehicle value, and varies by CO2 emissions. The rates are between 14 and 36%. If the value of the car is high, and/or the CO2 emissions are high, then the VRT will be high. How is it wrong or illegal to apply tax?

(If it's too much to pay, don't buy the car) = Eh Its not the car thats expensive is it ?

(How is it wrong or illegal to apply tax? ) = We are already taxed on our earnings road tax and vat on goods and services.


VRT is very wrong there can be no justification in charging such extortionate fees to register a vehicle. The effect of VRT implemented by the 1992 Finance Act circumvented an EU prohibition on customs duty. Customs duty on vehicles disappeared on the 31st December 1992 and the following day a new tax called VRT replaced it. This was brought about by the action of the people we voted for, our Oireachtas and effectively overrode EU law. This it cannot do because EU law is supreme in terms of community matters and in the promotion of free movement of goods, fundamental freedoms under the Treaty of Rome and the implementation of the Single European Market.

a.k.a. moving the goal-posts when it suits. I think that the customs men change their "duty" hats to "tax" hats for the purpose of chasing down vrt.

Isn't Ireland in breach of a string of EU laws? I seem to remember a mention some time ago of a number of at least 20 that it was being hauled over the coals for.

sandmen

Road tax will be crazy on it too?

astrofool

While VRT is awful, I think it's done the right thing here in keeping a high polluting car out of our country

Skopzz

astrofool wrote: »

While VRT is awful, I think it's done the right thing here in keeping a high polluting car out of our country

Small country with small minded people! I never remember seeing Ireland being near the same pollution scale as the US or China. Also, Irelands situation is unique because there is no proper public transport, you need a car to get around ireland

nobeastsofierce

Skopzz wrote: »

Small country with small minded people! I never remember seeing Ireland being near the same pollution scale as the US or China. Also, Irelands situation is unique because there is no proper public transport, you need a car to get around ireland

Bang out of order Skopzz and, if any, yours is the small minded opinio. We need to move away from outlandish, and unsustainable dependance on oil. Smaller engines are obviously the way to go. So what if we aren't in as much trouble as the aforementioned? You raise no point, nor argument at all, just petty insults

ejmaztec

ejmaztec wrote: »

You might find something after you've prayed at the holy stump.

Our prayers have been answered - praise be stump.

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astrofool

Skopzz wrote: »

Small country with small minded people! I never remember seeing Ireland being near the same pollution scale as the US or China. Also, Irelands situation is unique because there is no proper public transport, you need a car to get around ireland

If you want a high polluting car, then you have to be prepared to pay for it. The argument could be that the lowest polluting cars have 0% VRT, and increase it at the high end even more (or get the manufacturer to pay the cost directly, bumping up the sale price).

But this person sees money as the obstacle to getting his high polluting car, the tax has worked.

Skopzz

nobeastsofierce wrote: »

Bang out of order Skopzz and, if any, yours is the small minded opinio. We need to move away from outlandish, and unsustainable dependance on oil. Smaller engines are obviously the way to go. So what if we aren't in as much trouble as the aforementioned? You raise no point, nor argument at all, just petty insults

How am I being small minded?

If anything, I'm being liberal with my approach to wanting an open policy on car ownership. The current one is very restrictive, conservative and unsustainable. At the moment, people are double taxed on car ownership. Its also discouraging people from buying new cars.

Why tax both cars and gasoline? Maybe if the Government just taxed gasoline (and scrapped the high motor tax), that would deter people for doing more unnecessary travelling in their cars.

In France, theres no annual motor tax, they tax gasoline instead. Similarly, at the moment (mainly thanks to John Gormely), Ireland is being taxed deeper into recession with all these new environmental taxes/levies. He wants to double the plastic bag levy. The north has no plastic bag levy, their vrt and motor tax equivalent is much less than ours, their waste disposal and recycling charges are also less than ours.

si_guru

A side effect is that VRT also protect the 2nd hand market..

Of course we could bite the bullet, drop VRT. increase fuel duty. get loads of cheap cars from the UK.. see depreciation like the UK 50% after 8 months... put the queen in charge, etc..

Skopzz

astrofool wrote: »

If you want a high polluting car, then you have to be prepared to pay for it. The argument could be that the lowest polluting cars have 0% VRT, and increase it at the high end even more (or get the manufacturer to pay the cost directly, bumping up the sale price).

But this person sees money as the obstacle to getting his high polluting car, the tax has worked.

I disagree, bigger engine size cars are made to specification, the customer cannot demand a custom built car to their exact engine needs because it would cost a lot more. The cars you mention are generally upmarket/luxury cars and the goverment is shooting itself in the foot by punishing these, as the tax revenue margins are higher for these caars because of the higher asking prices. I think it should be left up to the customer to decide what car they want, not John Gormley or Brian Lenihan. The Government is only taxing itself deeper into recession.

mickdw

Why does OP think he should be allowed have his car for 12 to 15k cheaper than everyone else? Does the OP realise that EVERY car on the road here (except the odd exemption) has had vrt paid on it. If he was to buy his focus RS new here, he would have paid alot more vrt than he is now being quoted. That would be fine though simply because its not pointed out when buying a car for say 40k that x amount is vrt.
Everyone pays whether buying new, secondhand or importiing. Get over it.

B00MSTICK

Can't sympathise with you at all OP.

The VRT enquiry system is there so people can check before they buy, which you didn't do. Yes its a rip off but you can't blame the government for your lack of research.

You do realise the tax will be €2k p.a also?

ejmaztec

B00MSTICK wrote: »

Can't sympathise with you at all OP.

The VRT enquiry system is there so people can check before they buy, which you didn't do. Yes its a rip off but you can't blame the government for your lack of research.

You do realise the tax will be €2k p.a also?

He has obviously researched it, or he wouldn't have posted his findings and moaned about the situation:eek:.

astrofool

Skopzz wrote: »

I disagree, bigger engine size cars are made to specification, the customer cannot demand a custom built car to their exact engine needs because it would cost a lot more. The cars you mention are generally upmarket/luxury cars and the goverment is shooting itself in the foot by punishing these, as the tax revenue margins are higher for these caars because of the higher asking prices. I think it should be left up to the customer to decide what car they want, not John Gormley or Brian Lenihan. The Government is only taxing itself deeper into recession.

You can have big gigantic engines, as long as they are fuel efficient. BMW have been very good at doing this.

The environmental cost of all cars should be built into their price, VRT does that to a small extent (in a very ham fisted way).

If it weren't for governments protecting their car industries (see Germany and France), this would have already happened.

mcwhirter

The new vrt and c02 road tax based system is another tax for the poor.

I would like to own a new car with low emissions and pay small road tax but my 10 year old car has road tax based on engine size so is twice as high as a new car with same engine size but lower emissions.
Gormley and his comrades are dicks.
**** this poxy little **** of a country

Skopzz

mcwhirter wrote: »

The new vrt and c02 road tax based system is another tax for the poor.

I would like to own a new car with low emissions and pay small road tax but my 10 year old car has road tax based on engine size so is twice as high as a new car with same engine size but lower emissions.
Gormley and his comrades are dicks.
**** this poxy little **** of a country

Thats what people get for voting Fianna Fail into power, FF will pick the worst political party to go into coalition with. Expect more of these eco freako taxes to come.

Maybe if Lisbon 2 was defeated, we might have seen FF and the Greeens given the boot.

Guy:Incognito

mcwhirter wrote: »

The new vrt and c02 road tax based system is another tax for the poor.

I would like to own a new car with low emissions and pay small road tax but my 10 year old car has road tax based on engine size so is twice as high as a new car with same engine size but lower emissions.
Gormley and his comrades are dicks.
**** this poxy little **** of a country

What are the emissions on your 10 year old car? My 10 year old car would be €2000 a year to tax if it was backwards applied, it's €582 now. I'm perfectly happy to have a "tax for the poor". Funnily enough it's keeping me from being even poorer.



As for avoidign VRT , if your normally resident in Ireland, you pay VRT, end of. Thems are the rules .It's not legally avoidable and customs will take the car if they stop you (or fo the pedantic among you, they may give youi a timeframe to pay, but either way they wont just tell you to carry on). It's also not illegal, no matter who tells you otherwise and spouts rubbish about the EU fineing Ireland every year for it and/or being in the process of takign Ireland to court.

mcwhirter

Stekelly wrote: »

What are the emissions on your 10 year old car? My 10 year old car would be €2000 a year to tax if it was backwards applied, it's €582 now. I'm perfectly happy to have a "tax for the poor". Funnily enough it's keeping me from being even poorer.



As for avoidign VRT , if your normally resident in Ireland, you pay VRT, end of. Thems are the rules .It's not legally avoidable and customs will take the car if they stop you (or fo the pedantic among you, they may give youi a timeframe to pay, but either way they wont just tell you to carry on). It's also not illegal, no matter who tells you otherwise and spouts rubbish about the EU fineing Ireland every year for it and/or being in the process of takign Ireland to court.

Yes, the emissions on my OLD car would cost over 1000 euros on the emission based system, but my car emits the same as a much bigger engine now and when my car was made in 2000 emissions based tax wasn't used then so manufacturers did not have to reduce the emissions.

Why should I be taxed more when I cannot afford a newer car.
I also imported a car from britain with emissions of 168 but I have to pay the annual car tax on the engine size which is 640 euros approx while if it was on emissions it would be about 440 euros.
My argument is, that I would like to avail of the new emission based car tax but I cannot afford it.
Its a bit like the public sector high paid only getting a reduction of 3%
while the lower paid get a much higher reduction, this country is a corrupt small minded mess.

randomer

astrofool wrote: »

If you want a high polluting car, then you have to be prepared to pay for it. The argument could be that the lowest polluting cars have 0% VRT, and increase it at the high end even more (or get the manufacturer to pay the cost directly, bumping up the sale price).

But this person sees money as the obstacle to getting his high polluting car, the tax has worked.

I get frustrated by this nonsense about "high polluting" cars. All cars pollute equally until they are driven. Charging tax based on cars potential to pollute is just silly.

My friend drives a Toyota Prius, a so called green car. Each year her car produces substantially more CO2 than my car, because she drives thousands of kilometres more than I do in my so called “high polluting” car.

Motor tax should be based on usage rather than potential to pollute.

The tax is not a begrudgery tax, even though some people think it is.

Figerty

You would want to be careful you don't get hit for VAT as welk.

if the car is less than six months old when you bought it ( not when you brought it in) or has less than 6000km you will get hit for VAT as well!!!!

Revenue tried that one on me last year but I beat them at their own game.

colm88 wrote: »

jor el wrote: »

VRT is calculated as a percentage of the vehicle value, and varies by CO2 emissions. The rates are between 14 and 36%. If the value of the car is high, and/or the CO2 emissions are high, then the VRT will be high. How is it wrong or illegal to apply tax?

(If it's too much to pay, don't buy the car) = Eh Its not the car thats expensive is it ?

(How is it wrong or illegal to apply tax? ) = We are already taxed on our earnings road tax and vat on goods and services.


VRT is very wrong there can be no justification in charging such extortionate fees to register a vehicle. The effect of VRT implemented by the 1992 Finance Act circumvented an EU prohibition on customs duty. Customs duty on vehicles disappeared on the 31st December 1992 and the following day a new tax called VRT replaced it. This was brought about by the action of the people we voted for, our Oireachtas and effectively overrode EU law. This it cannot do because EU law is supreme in terms of community matters and in the promotion of free movement of goods, fundamental freedoms under the Treaty of Rome and the implementation of the Single European Market.

astrofool

randomer wrote: »

I get frustrated by this nonsense about "high polluting" cars. All cars pollute equally until they are driven. Charging tax based on cars potential to pollute is just silly.

My friend drives a Toyota Prius, a so called green car. Each year her car produces substantially more CO2 than my car, because she drives thousands of kilometres more than I do in my so called “high polluting” car.

Motor tax should be based on usage rather than potential to pollute.

The tax is not a begrudgery tax, even though some people think it is.

While, ideally, the cost would go onto the fuel used, unless this was done EU wide, there would be too much of a discrepency, and lead to cross border problems, leaving Irish tax receipts in freefall.

It also has knock on implications for other areas of transport, that currently have low VRT rates, but we rely on to exist (trucks).

Also, while all cars can pollute equally, people have a set amount that they drive each year, by having a tax on the purchase price, the buyer is less likely to buy the more polluting car, people are more willing to take ongoing costs (fuel) on the chin, the net result being that our car fleet ends up being more polluting.

colm88

B00MSTICK wrote: »

Can't sympathise with you at all OP.

The VRT enquiry system is there so people can check before they buy, which you didn't do. Yes its a rip off but you can't blame the government for your lack of research.

You do realise the tax will be €2k p.a also?

IF YOU READ MY OP YOU WILL SEE I DIDNT BUY THE CAR. I DECIDED NOT TO BUY THE CAR AFTER USING THE VRT ENQUIRY SYSTEM AND REALISING THE EXCESSIVE RIP-OFF PRICE I WOULD OF "HAD" TO PAY. IF YOU READ MY ORIGINAL POST PROPERLY BEFORE SPOUTING RUBBISH OUT OF YOUR MOUTH YOU,LL CLEARLY SEE THAT I DO NOT BLAME THE GOVERNMENT FOR A LACK OF RESEARCH ON MY BEHALF, MY POST IS SIMPLY EXPRESSING MY ASTONISHMENT AT THE RIP OFF AND EXCESSIVE COST OF VRT IN THIS COUNTRY.

Adamisconfused

That's what happens when you live in a second rate country. I was born and raised here, but once you've lived abroad, you realise how pathetic most things in this country really are. I spent five years living in Belfast and then Birmingham as well as a year in Germany and had some pretty decent cars which would have been just out of my price range down south.
Unfortunately, the only options I know about are paying or emigrating. It's unpleasent, but seems to be as simple as that. VRT is a form of extortion and it's introduction had nothing to do with saving the planet.:rolleyes: It was simply a money making excercise. Heading back to England later in the year and have my eyes on a new Cupra R and I get to keep an extra ten thousand in my pocket that revenue won't get their dirty paws on.:pac:

Twin-go

Just a thought: If VRT in not an import duty why are Customs Officers policing it? Should it not be Revinue?

ejmaztec

Twin-go wrote: »

Just a thought: If VRT in not an import duty why are Customs Officers policing it? Should it not be Revinue?

see post 23.