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Frozen Engine - Please Help
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03-01-2010 11:45am#1Help! The engine in my car is frozen. The pipes around the engine are hard with ice and its gone through the engine too. Before anyone asks, no I didn't have antifreeze in her. Well I did, but had a problem with a leak and then no more anti freeze was put in. What can I do? Any point in pouring warm water around? I don't know if this makes any difference but she's an MG ZR.
Please don't tell me the car is f**ked
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smiley girl wrote: »Help! The engine in my car is frozen. The pipes around the engine are hard with ice and its gone through the engine too. Before anyone asks, no I didn't have antifreeze in her. Well I did, but had a problem with a leak and then no more anti freeze was put in. What can I do? Any point in pouring warm water around? I don't know if this makes any difference but she's an MG ZR.
Please don't tell me the car is f**ked
Unfortunately water expands as it turns into ice, so you could have a cracked engine block. Don't try to start it since if the block is cracked you could do a great deal of damage. You need to thaw it out gradually by putting something like a fan heater to blow warm air under the engine (but don't put the heater under the engine or in the engine compartment -- danger of fire from fuel leaks etc.) If you can thaw it, then look for water leaks and check the oil level regularly to see if it's increasing. If there are leaks or increasing oil level then something has cracked somewhere. A cracked block is replaceable provided you don't do any more damage, but could be expensive.
Honestly, unless you know what you're doing, I would strongly advise you to get a qualified mechanic onto it, since he would know best how to thaw it and could then do a pressure test on the cooling system to check if there are any problems. If after all that it has survived, put lots of antifreeze in it!!0 -
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smiley girl wrote: »Help! The engine in my car is frozen. The pipes around the engine are hard with ice and its gone through the engine too. Before anyone asks, no I didn't have antifreeze in her. Well I did, but had a problem with a leak and then no more anti freeze was put in. What can I do? Any point in pouring warm water around? I don't know if this makes any difference but she's an MG ZR.
Please don't tell me the car is f**ked
Guess you didnt read this:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055782904
How big was this leak? Even topping up with water (we all do that..) on top of Coolant-Water mix you should have enough Coolant in there for minimal protection.
How cold did it get in your area?
Did you drive through water that could have splashed up and froze on the outside of the pipes?
How do you know the pipes are frozen internally (the rubber will be very very hard at this temp, thats normal)?
As suggested try let the sun thaw it, open the bonnet and point at sunshine.0 -
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smiley girl wrote: »Help! The engine in my car is frozen. The pipes around the engine are hard with ice and its gone through the engine too. Before anyone asks, no I didn't have antifreeze in her. Well I did, but had a problem with a leak and then no more anti freeze was put in. What can I do? Any point in pouring warm water around? I don't know if this makes any difference but she's an MG ZR.
Please don't tell me the car is f**ked
Same thing happened to me few weeks ago with pegeout 306.... the water froze ..couldn't start the car but tried to... then i gave it to local auto service to have a look at it and they said that the timing belt broke and the mechanic didnt know if that would fix the problem... you can try to put a heater under the car and there are a lot of chances that the engine could be f**ked and that you will have to change a lot of parts or even get a new engine0 -
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could be worse :rolleyes:smiley girl wrote: »That's my baby your calling a yoke!!!:D
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Or maybe it'd be a blessing for this to freeze and the owner start it and rupture the engine block
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If you know the mechanic and trust him and he knows his stuff then he'll give you his recommendations, unfortunately due to your handicup of long hair and lack of certain anatomy some mechanics will try rip you to the max, if you're in no rush to fix it then allow a couple mechanics to check her over before deciding on what to do, no honest mechanic will mind you getting a second opinion
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If you know the mechanic and trust him and he knows his stuff then he'll give you his recommendations, unfortunately due to your handicup of long hair and lack of certain anatomy some mechanics will try rip you to the max, if you're in no rush to fix it then allow a couple mechanics to check her over before deciding on what to do, no honest mechanic will mind you getting a second opinion
And that is exactly why my dad said he would bring it to the guy he goes to!!
So a reconditioned engine is a good idea?HashSlinging wrote: »Why would you replace a whole car if the block is cracked? new engine FTW
I really don't want to change the whole car. I didn't set out to buy an MG ZR, but I am so glad I did! I'm far from a girl racer, or a someone who is into cars, but this is my third car, well second in my name, and I love her :P0 -
considering the MG ZR is no longer in production, depending on the year of yours you could even get a 2nd hand car for cheap cheap, check to see how extensive damages are before you opt for a full engine replacement. As ltslipdiff said, the repairs could actuallly outweigh the value of your zr so you could actually be best getting a new car, but if your dads mechanic will look after you dont rule out any of your options
If you love the zr than you be best sticking with it if yours turns out to be costly to repair, what year,spec is yours?0 -
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It may not need a new engine at all, smileygirl.
I'd be looking at new head gasket (the uprated type), and I think the inlet manifold gasket is known for water leaks (your mech will know what I mean). Any k series engine that needs water top ups should be treated as such in my view.
As regards frost damage, it will need assessing to check how much, if any, damage has been done
If it's in good nick, and you're attached to it, and it's financially viable to repair ti, then go for it. This guy shouldn't be assuming the engine is toast, because as I say, it may be fine.
On another note, nowt wrong with these cars, once you know what you're getting. they're not an MG by any stretch of the imagination, but are a cheap hatchback, and once the HGF issue is dealt with (if I bought one of them in the morning, I'd have it done whether it needed it or not!), are a fun little yoke car
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year is 2002, its 1.4 and spec??considering the MG ZR is no longer in production, depending on the year of yours you could even get a 2nd hand car for cheap cheap, check to see how extensive damages are before you opt for a full engine replacement. As ltslipdiff said, the repairs could actuallly outweigh the value of your zr so you could actually be best getting a new car, but if your dads mechanic will look after you dont rule out any of your options
If you love the zr than you be best sticking with it if yours turns out to be costly to repair, what year,spec is yours?
according to internet web sites between 2 and 3 grand -ish?New engine for that car isn't going to be cheap or easy to locate. What's the car worth?0 -
no idea what that is, but I do know they are renowned for something (can't remember what its called) going wrong with it! After I bought her thats what people (men) were saying. But she is a good little car.Rev. BlueJeans wrote: »It may not need a new engine at all, smileygirl.
I'd be looking at new head gasket (the uprated type), and I think the inlet manifold gasket is known for water leaks (your mech will know what I mean). Any k series engine that needs water top ups should be treated as such in my view.
As regards frost damage, it will need assessing to check how much, if any, damage has been done
If it's in good nick, and you're attached to it, and it's financially viable to repair ti, then go for it. This guy shouldn't be assuming the engine is toast, because as I say, it may be fine.
On another note, nowt wrong with these cars, once you know what you're getting. they're not an MG by any stretch of the imagination, but are a cheap hatchback, and once the HGF issue is dealt with (if I bought one of them in the morning, I'd have it done whether it needed it or not!), are a fun little yoke car
But I do know this, when I get my next car, whenever that may be, I will certainly look into it more
and stock up on anti freeze!!!0 -
spec meaning was yours the 1.4 engine or 1.8 etc, for the cost of a new engine you could get a 04-05 zr, they have habits of head gaskets going but as said in a post above u can have these changed with an uprated gasket, personally if i were you i would opt for a car change than an engine swap, but that's only if your engine is beyond repairsmiley girl wrote: »no idea what that is, but I do know they are renowned for something (can't remember what its called) going wrong with it! After I bought her thats what people (men) were saying. But she is a good little car.
But I do know this, when I get my next car, whenever that may be, I will certainly look into it more
and stock up on anti freeze!!! all the best 0 -
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