TNA's potential Main Event Scene

belge boy · 03-01-2010 2:17am #1

AJ Styles
Kurt Angle
Desmond Wolfe
Samoa Joe
Daniels
Bobby Lashley
Mick Foley
Jeff Jarrett
Rob Van Dam
Mr. Anderson

Wow.

flahavaj · 03-01-2010 2:19am

belge boy wrote: »

AJ Styles
Kurt Angle
Desmond Wolfe
Samoa Joe
Daniels
Bobby Lashley
Mick Foley
Jeff Jarrett
Rob Van Dam
Mr. Anderson

Wow.

No draws.

Dean820 · 03-01-2010 2:21am

Problem with this is they can't all be in the main event every month...

belge boy · 03-01-2010 2:28am

flahavaj wrote: »

No draws.

Mick Foley not a draw? The night he won title TNA achieved record viewership.

That scene is better than anything the WWE can offer. And don't forget people like d'angelo dinero and abyss.

gimmick · 03-01-2010 2:32am

Its up to TNA to make them draws. No one can deny the talent of the likes of Wolf, Styles, Angle etc, but as things stand none of them has done anything to increase viewership in any significant manner.

As for all of them not being able to main event very month, well thats not a bad thing if booked correctly.

belge boy · 03-01-2010 2:34am

Hogan mentioned how in a year from now he wants people like Styles to be recognised in airports across the USA and beyond. These people are clearly a draw, TNA sold out an arena in London for January(10,000 people) you would think they would do a live show from there but no it's a house show. TNA would probably do better attendance wise if they relocated here in Europe and toured

flahavaj · 03-01-2010 2:44am

belge boy wrote: »

Mick Foley not a draw? The night he won title TNA achieved record viewership.

That scene is better than anything the WWE can offer. And don't forget people like d'angelo dinero and abyss.

Foley never drew big numbers in his career. Maybe a decade ago he did some good RAW ratings but that wa probably more to do with The Rock than him.

Drawing a record number for TNA means jack sh*t, its still peanut numbers.

Dinero and Abyss? Wind-up surely.

belge boy · 03-01-2010 2:46am

Jesus christ. People like Dinero and Abyss have star quality that is what I'm saying.

Machismo Fan · 03-01-2010 2:48am

TNA's main event scene has loads of potential but for as long as their TV continues to be formatted as it is none of them will ever get over in the way that they have potential to. At the very least, it'll be fresh, quality wrestling.

belge boy · 03-01-2010 2:50am

I personally think TNA have done an excellent job in creating AJ Styles as a star. I can't wait to see Hogan's bigger plans for the AJ charachter.

Machismo Fan · 03-01-2010 2:51am

belge boy wrote: »

Jesus christ. People like Dinero and Abyss have star quality that is what I'm saying.

TNA missed the boat on Abyss two and a half years ago. He could have gotten over big if TNA actually pushe him when he finally turned face. But, as with all good things in TNA, Russo messed it up completely. 'Pope' does have big star potential but I don't see him main eventing for at the very least another two years unless he freakishly catches on.

flahavaj · 03-01-2010 2:53am

belge boy wrote: »

Jesus christ. People like Dinero and Abyss have star quality that is what I'm saying.

Abyss is stale as hell. Your average fan would look at him as an overweight Mankind rip-off (I've heard it said),

Dinero certainly carries himself like a star and is someone I always liked. Problem is as always, the way TNA presents him to us. They've never presented him as someone special or someone worth caring about. He's someone I'd worry bigtime about with this aupposed influx on "new" talent. He's a prime example of a talented young suprstar, like the Machine Guns who'll probably get lost in the midcard mix.

belge boy · 03-01-2010 2:53am

Abyss is kinda over with kids but I have a feeling we will see James Mitchell return and Abyss will be unleashed again. That guy is a monster, his original attire and actions just look freaky now he's just an overgrown baby.

Machismo Fan · 03-01-2010 2:55am

belge boy wrote: »

I personally think TNA have done an excellent job in creating AJ Styles as a star. I can't wait to see Hogan's bigger plans for the AJ charachter.

I'm the biggest AJ fan you'll ever see but TNA have really botched his run. If it wasn't for his amazing ability to redeem himself through his top quality PPV matches he'd be considered a big flop. He's constantly being booked as inferior on TV and his matches and segments are very rarely the focus of the show.

belge boy · 03-01-2010 2:56am

flahavaj wrote: »

Abyss is stale as hell. Your average fan would look at him as an overweight Mankind rip-off (I've heard it said),

Dinero certainly carries himself like a star and is someone I always liked. Problem is as always, the way TNA presents him to us. They've never presented him as someone special or someone worth caring about. He's someone I'd worry bigtime about with this aupposed influx on "new" talent. He's a prime example of a talented young suprstar, like the Machine Guns who'll probably get lost in the midcard mix.

Now he is but 4 years ago IMO Abyss was superior to Kane at his peak.

Machismo Fan · 03-01-2010 2:58am

flahavaj wrote: »

Abyss is stale as hell. Your average fan would look at him as an overweight Mankind rip-off (I've heard it said),

I don't even think it's that he's stale (though there's only so many Abyss PPV gimmick matches you can see) but just how crap his character is. Abyss should be a monster, a destroyer but he's too busy clapping and acting like a giidy eight year old. For me, Abyss is the most talented big man in wrestling but as with all good things in TNA, Russo messed it up.

belge boy · 03-01-2010 3:13am

So so convincing. Even when I read all the dirtsheets and was on forums I still was convinced by his charachter.

waltersobchak · 03-01-2010 4:57am

flahavaj wrote: »

No draws.

Just because someone wasn't a huge draw in the past doesnt mean they cant be a draw in the future.. TNA have no excuses with a Main Event/ Upper Midcard like that, bar Lashley he shouldnt be on that list.. but obviously if Sting returns on the 4th, theres no denying he was a draw..

Gerard.C · 03-01-2010 1:43pm

Ah lads TNA have had this "potential" for years and years, but they're too thick to do anything right, and Hulk Hogan and his OAP buddies are not going to fix that. I'd love them to prove me wrong, but I really dont think they will

flahavaj · 03-01-2010 3:35pm

waltersobchak wrote: »

Just because someone wasn't a huge draw in the past doesnt mean they cant be a draw in the future.. TNA have no excuses with a Main Event/ Upper Midcard like that, bar Lashley he shouldnt be on that list.. but obviously if Sting returns on the 4th, theres no denying he was a draw..

Sting never drew at the level of the big stars like Rock/Austin/Hogan or even Flair. WCW only did huge numbers when Hogan started the NWO.

waltersobchak · 03-01-2010 3:42pm

flahavaj wrote: »

Sting never drew at the level of the big stars like Rock/Austin/Hogan or even Flair. WCW only did huge numbers when Hogan started the NWO.

Starrcade 97 which Sting and Hogan, Main-evented was WCWs highest ever PPV buyrate, so maybe he wasnt on the level of Rock or Austin he was still a draw

chopperbyrne · 03-01-2010 4:07pm

belge boy wrote: »

AJ Styles - Great talent, deserves the spot.
Kurt Angle - Talented, but should retire for his own good.
Desmond Wolfe - Talented, but is likely to get seriously injured at any time because of his style.
Samoa Joe - Used to be good, but got even fatter than he was and is pretty bad now.
Daniels - Great talent, deserves the spot.
Bobby Lashley - Wasn't good in WWE and isn't in TNA all of the time as he is juggling an MMA career too.
Mick Foley - Should have stayed retired.
Jeff Jarrett - Talented and can definitely make up and comers look good.
Rob Van Dam - Talented, but is a stoner and shoots himself in the foot too often.
Mr. Anderson - Injury prone waste of space.

Wow.

Wow indeed. :rolleyes:

EdK · 03-01-2010 4:33pm

Wolfe in TNA has almost completely gotten rid of the hard hitting style he had in ROH, It was a concern of mine at first too but he's all about technical holds and sweet counters now it's a joy to watch

He's done maybe 2 lariats in his time there so far and not as hard/dangerously as he used to do them either

belge boy · 03-01-2010 4:36pm

chopperbyrne wrote: »

Wow indeed. :rolleyes:

This post has an anti-TNA bias.

chopperbyrne · 03-01-2010 4:42pm

belge boy wrote: »

This post has an anti-TNA bias.

How so?

belge boy · 03-01-2010 4:43pm

Because it's far superior to the WWE's.

chopperbyrne · 03-01-2010 4:47pm

That's your opinion and you're entitled to it.

Also, I didn't mention WWE in my post, nor make any comparisons. (With the exception of Lashley)

So again, how did my post have an anti-TNA bias?

flahavaj · 03-01-2010 5:49pm

belge boy wrote: »

This post has an anti-TNA bias.

In fairness every one of your posts so far has had a pro-TNA bias.;)

flahavaj · 03-01-2010 5:51pm

waltersobchak wrote: »

Starrcade 97 which Sting and Hogan, Main-evented was WCWs highest ever PPV buyrate, so maybe he wasnt on the level of Rock or Austin he was still a draw

Yes because it was NWO Hogan he was wrestling. How come Sting never drew anything near that number until Hogan came along and the NWO was born? Hogan and in particular the NWO storyline was the draw there.

waltersobchak · 03-01-2010 6:06pm

flahavaj wrote: »

Yes because it was NWO Hogan he was wrestling. How come Sting never drew anything near that number until Hogan came along and the NWO was born? Hogan and in particular the NWO storyline was the draw there.

So it had nothing to do with the fact Sting was the main WCW retaliant against the NWO and Hogan for the guts of a year?..Leading up to that PPV? Sorry for going so far off topic, But at the end of the day you can probably argue that no single Wrestler was a draw in the U.S unless their names are Sammartino, Hogan or Austin, realistically in this day and age were theres no marquee Wrestlers that can sell a PPV on their name alone.. so therefore if a storyline(NWO for example) can get get a decent buyrate in the past its still possible that a good storyline in the future can get good buyrates too..

flahavaj · 03-01-2010 6:41pm

waltersobchak wrote: »

So it had nothing to do with the fact Sting was the main WCW relatiant against the NWO and Hogan for the guts of a year?..Leading up to that PPV? Sorry for going so far off topic, But at the end of the day you can probably argue that no single Wrestler was a draw in the U.S unless their names are Sammartino, Hogan or Austin, realistically in this day and age were theres no marquee Wrestlers that can sell a PPV on their name alone.. so therefore if a storyline(NWO for example) can get get a decent buyrate in the past its still possible that a good storyline in the future can get good buyrates too..

Good point.

But I don't think Sting in 2010 against any combination of wrestler available to TNA in 2010 will draw anything near what the NWO in WCW did in 1997. Certainly not if they rehash that feud again or do Flair/Hogan or Flair /Sting for the umpteenth time.

waltersobchak · 03-01-2010 7:05pm

flahavaj wrote: »

Good point.

But I don't think Sting in 2010 against any combination of wrestler available to TNA in 2010 will draw anything near what the NWO in WCW did in 1997. Certainly not if they rehash that feud again or do Flair/Hogan or Flair /Sting for the umpteenth time.

Yeah absolutely rehashing stuff from the past only works if the demand is actually there for it.. which its still very questionable that people still care about them..but the ball is now very much in TNAs court after this initial spike in interest,to hook the audience in, and actually be an alternative to WWE.. they obviously do have the talent, maybe if they concentrated on simple yet effective storylines and great matches thats the first step in the right direction.

Jolt2007 · 03-01-2010 7:14pm

No love for Matt Morgan here? Not the best worker by any means but imo he has "it". Interesting to see what happens him with Hogan on board.

TNA's potential Main Event Scene

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