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Free standing punch bags.

  • 02-01-2010 5:31pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5


    Hi,

    i've recently taken up muay thai but due to work i can only make the lessons once or twice a week. so i'm lookin to get a punch bag so i can do some practice myself on the other days. dont have all that much space to hang one plus its a rented house) so i was wonderin what do people think of the free standing ones? are they good or do you prefer hanging ones? was lookin at something like this http://www.worldofcombat.com/playwellxlfreestandingpunchbagblack-p-2504.html

    any opinions or comments would be appreciated,
    cheers.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Those free-standing bags are ok, but they aren't as hard or heavy as a normal hanging bag so you don't get the same type of resistance.

    If you don't have room for a hanging bag, I'd say go for it - but if you do have the room - get a hanging bag. They are cheaper too!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,188 ✭✭✭Doug Cartel


    I think those freestanding bags are poor substitutes for hanging bags. They're nowhere near as hard as the hanging ones, and if you give them a good kick, they slide around.

    I guess if you just want to practice moving in, taking a few shots and moving out again, they're ok, but If you want to work on conditioning and throw repeated round-houses, they're pretty useless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭yomchi


    Agree with the lads, the fee standing bags are good for cardio kick boxing type work, but for heavy work, get a hanging bag, available from 60 quid up in town.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭Niall Keane


    Don't know what people use here yes there are rubbish light up stand ups etc i Got a decent stand up by searchIng amazon and then buying directly from the seller in England cost 170pounds but postage was only 10pounds. With water the base weighs 120kg and has a heavy spring that absorbs some of your power and also therefore acts as reflex aid. You could fill it with sand I suppose if you had superman punches? But I find that having to wrestle the device backin to position every couple ofminutes is a worthwhile excercise in itself. Also the 'man' target is lightly coated in foam so I found it better to condition my shins just my two cents


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 253 ✭✭_oveless


    Would wet sand or even cement make for a better base?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 364 ✭✭ScottStorm


    I'm in a similar situation, ie renting and unable to put up a proper hanging bag. I have a freestanding bag which is ok but as the previous posters have stated, you do have to reposition it every few minutes and it is not great for full force kicks. Mine slides about and can tip over a bit .

    My gym has a more expensive variety but but they behave in the same manner. They are great for practicing form and technique but are not a genuine replacement for a heavy bag.

    I know I wouldn't even try and practice full force muay thai kicks on mine as I would spend more time repositioning the bag than kicking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 174 ✭✭padlad


    I have a man called bob and find it good. I have about 90 kilos of sand in the base (it could take a good bit more) and find it okay for fairly heavy punching - it does move a bit but I find people tend to too. It's good for targeted strikes, and can take a lot of punishment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 346 ✭✭Martin25


    Freestanding bags are ok, they are not a good as a hanging heavy bag but are better than no bag at all. We have a decent one in the gym along with a selection of others and its reasonable to use,if it moves around a bit thats fun too as we move as well!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 173 ✭✭crosstrainer1


    Ive been training thai boxing for 9 years and i think free standing bags are better than hanging bags the best one to buy are from blitzs about £165 with postage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭yomchi


    Ive been training thai boxing for 9 years and i think free standing bags are better than hanging bags the best one to buy are from blitzs about £165 with postage.

    Interesting. Why do you think that?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,188 ✭✭✭Doug Cartel


    Ive been training thai boxing for 9 years and i think free standing bags are better than hanging bags the best one to buy are from blitzs about £165 with postage.

    I also would love to hear your reasoning on this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 173 ✭✭crosstrainer1


    yomchi wrote: »
    Interesting. Why do you think that?
    likeall martial arts equipment the punch bag or heavy bag has many different uses. to me the free standing bag has alot off different uses.
    1 to develop power strikes it doesn't move around as much. If you want to practice basic strikes. You dont need someone to hold it. when the weather is good you can take it outside.
    2if you train in weapon system you can take the foam padding off and throw a couple of tyres over it for stick training
    3 the padding is so light that you can move it around so someone can sparr it its brilliant for teaching kids. Ground and pound, the only thing you cant do is uppercuts, but you cant do uppercuts on a kick bag. for personal training i have had 6 kick thai uppercut bags you name them ive had them and for me the best is a free standing bag
    the only thing im missing is the hong kong book of kung fu


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭yomchi


    likeall martial arts equipment the punch bag or heavy bag has many different uses. to me the free standing bag has alot off different uses.
    1 to develop power strikes it doesn't move around as much. If you want to practice basic strikes. You dont need someone to hold it. when the weather is good you can take it outside.
    2if you train in weapon system you can take the foam padding off and throw a couple of tyres over it for stick training
    3 the padding is so light that you can move it around so someone can sparr it its brilliant for teaching kids. Ground and pound, the only thing you cant do is uppercuts, but you cant do uppercuts on a kick bag. for personal training i have had 6 kick thai uppercut bags you name them ive had them and for me the best is a free standing bag
    the only thing im missing is the hong kong book of kung fu

    A hanging bag that moves around is a much better way of developing power in your strikes. You're meant to hit it as it returns back towards you increasing its mass as a bag, so you don't need someone to hold it either.

    Points two and three are obviously relevant to your own style and not relevant to developing power.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 173 ✭✭crosstrainer1


    yomchi wrote: »
    A hanging bag that moves around is a much better way of developing power in your strikes. You're meant to hit it as it returns back towards you increasing its mass as a bag, so you don't need someone to hold it either.

    Points two and three are obviously relevant to your own style and not relevant to developing power.
    if someone holds the pads say -thai pads and is moving around timming and movement determans the direction of your strike and the power but if you wish only to practice power strikes is it not better for the person to stand still while holding the pads. then ilook at mind body and kick ass moves at the filipino section when chris cadelly( sorry if i spelt his name wrong) tackles a banna stump how he says it is better than a punch bag thats how you use a free standing bag. by the way i dont belive in styles i just belive in training


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭yomchi


    I've no idea what you're saying


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