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Greatest Irish Sports Person Ever???

  • 01-01-2010 10:58am
    #1
    Bugnug
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    1. Is Padraig Harrington the greatest ever sports person?
    2. George Best and Joey Dunlop are from Northern Ireland, does that not make them Nothern Irelands greatest sports people, last time I checked it was a seperate state to the ROI?
    3. The programme claimed that it was a public vote. I am an avid sports fan and I knew nothing about this???


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  • #2
    Happy Monday
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,216 ✭✭✭Happy Monday


    Are you taking it all a little seriously?
    Plus Paddy H has won three major titles and is in line to win more.
    That makes him pretty damn good by any standard!


  • #3
    Bugnug
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    Happy Monday wrote: »
    Are you taking it all a little seriously?
    Plus Paddy H has won three major titles and is in line to win more.
    That makes him pretty damn good by any standard!

    No I dont think so. If these awards are open to the public everybody who is in to thier sport should have a chance to vote. I dont disagree, Harrington is definitely one of our greatest. But is he the greatest ever?
    I didnt see any awards being handed out to Irish sports people at the recent British awards ceremony?


  • #4
    efb
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    Bugnug wrote: »
    1. Is Padraig Harrington the greatest ever sports person?
    2. George Best and Joey Dunlop are from Northern Ireland, does that not make them Nothern Irelands greatest sports people, last time I checked it was a seperate state to the ROI?
    3. The programme claimed that it was a public vote. I am an avid sports fan and I knew nothing about this???

    look harder. it was on rte.ie for ages now.

    I voted for Padraig.


  • #5
    Bugnug
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    efb wrote: »
    look harder. it was on rte.ie for ages now.

    I voted for Padraig.

    Not exactly aregular on rte.ie, was it advertised on tv, newspaper. I would have voted for BOD.


  • #6
    gleep
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    Bugnug wrote: »
    1. Is Padraig Harrington the greatest ever sports person?
    2. George Best and Joey Dunlop are from Northern Ireland, does that not make them Nothern Irelands greatest sports people, last time I checked it was a seperate state to the ROI?
    3. The programme claimed that it was a public vote. I am an avid sports fan and I knew nothing about this???

    Sweet Jaysus. Are you Irish? What makes you Irish? The fact that you were born south of that invisible line drawn across a map all of 70 years ago, and anyone else is a Brit? Cop on.

    There are many Irish sportsmen/women born north of that invisible line, some hold Irish citizenship, some don't, but many of them represent Ireland in team sports. If one of these had won instead of Padraig, would you have complained that they wern't Irish?


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  • #7
    mocata
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    Padraig is a class act, and v proud of him as an irishman. But if the poll had ran the week before he had his breakthrough win, would he have made the top4? I seriously doubt it. Brian O Driscoll is a superb athlete too, but in a minority sport, his ranking has to be at least partly due to his media adoration. Its a testament to the likes of Christy Ring/Joey Dunlop that they can still place in polls like this, without being photographed at the opening of every envelope in the D4 area.


  • #8
    efb
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    Bugnug wrote: »
    Not exactly aregular on rte.ie, was it advertised on tv, newspaper. I would have voted for BOD.

    RTÉ guide, RTÉ television, RTÉ Radio, it being an RTÉ competition.


  • #9
    Bugnug
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    gleep wrote: »
    Sweet Jaysus. Are you Irish? What makes you Irish? The fact that you were born south of that invisible line drawn across a map all of 70 years ago, and anyone else is a Brit? Cop on.

    There are many Irish sportsmen/women born north of that invisible line, some hold Irish citizenship, some don't, but many of them represent Ireland in team sports. If one of these had won instead of Padraig, would you have complained that they wern't Irish?

    What you are saying makes no sense. I was actually looking at it from the point of view of NI. What gives us the right to claim thier sports stars as our own? Sure why dont we find out if Tiger Woods great great granny was Irish and we can claim him as well.


  • #10
    Bugnug
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    mocata wrote: »
    Padraig is a class act, and v proud of him as an irishman. But if the poll had ran the week before he had his breakthrough win, would he have made the top4? I seriously doubt it. Brian O Driscoll is a superb athlete too, but in a minority sport, his ranking has to be at least partly due to his media adoration. Its a testament to the likes of Christy Ring/Joey Dunlop that they can still place in polls like this, without being photographed at the opening of every envelope in the D4 area.

    That minority sport you refer to has brought us more sporting recognition across the world in the last 8 years than any other sport we have been involved in ever and BOD has been at the centre of all of it, triple crowns, grand slams, heineken cups, magners league. Every piece of silver ware available to a Northern hemisphere club or country currently resides in Ireland. The national and international sucess of our rugby teams is unparralled in any other sport we play.


  • #11
    gleep
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    Bugnug wrote: »
    What you are saying makes no sense. I was actually looking at it from the point of view of NI. What gives us the right to claim thier sports stars as our own? Sure why dont we find out if Tiger Woods great great granny was Irish and we can claim him as well.


    Ah stop man, you're killing me here!!:pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:

    I'm not referring to anyone born in america with the irish granny, i'm referring to someone like say Darren Gibson, born in Derry, Ireland, as Irish as you or me, plays international football for Ireland.
    Or any of the rugby squad born in the 6 counties? should they not be considered?

    Your post, in my opinion, is flawed.


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  • #12
    Happy Monday
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    Bugnug wrote: »
    That minority sport you refer to has brought us more sporting recognition across the world in the last 8 years than any other sport we have been involved in ever and BOD has been at the centre of all of it, triple crowns, grand slams, heineken cups, magners league. Every piece of silver ware available to a Northern hemisphere club or country currently resides in Ireland. The national and international sucess of our rugby teams is unparralled in any other sport we play.

    Northern hemisphere - you mean 5 other nations - and one of those is Italy. And 3 of those are British.

    Ireland has never beaten any decent side in rugby world cups between 1987-2007 and there are only 7 of those - I would have thought that would be the ultimate standard by which Irish teams should be judged.

    Plus Barry McGuigan was voted sports personality in the UK.


  • #13
    Bugnug
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    Happy Monday wrote: »
    Northern hemisphere - you mean 5 other nations - and one of those is Italy. And 3 of those are British.

    Ireland has never beaten any decent side in rugby world cups between 1987-2007 and there are only 7 of those - I would have thought that would be the ultimate standard by which Irish teams should be judged.

    Plus Barry McGuigan was voted sports personality in the UK.

    Precisely my point HE IS BRITISH!


  • #14
    Happy Monday
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    Bugnug wrote: »
    Precisely my point HE IS BRITISH!

    No - but is he not from Monaghan - the RoI as you called it earlier?
    They voted for him as he transcended the very barriers that you look to maintain. He fought in London and Dublin and attracted a cross community and both large Irish and British support.


  • #15
    gleep
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    Bugnug wrote: »
    Precisely my point HE IS BRITISH!


    Ask Barry McGuigan what his nationality is!

    I think you'll find with him it's more a case of Britan claiming Irish sportsmen as their own!


  • #16
    targus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭targus


    Hard to argue with the winner.The fact that these major titles were won

    in the last couple of years is irrelevant.These truly stand the test of

    time.He was the first Irish winner of the British Open in 60 years and the

    only golfer ever to retain it.

    That said IMO it should have been a close call between him and Sean

    Kelly.Kelly's achievements over the years have been nothing short of

    phenonamal....If it came to a push I;ll put my neck on the line and say he

    should have won it...The only reason he didnt is because cycling is a true

    minority sport in this country.


  • #17
    mocata
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 365 ✭✭mocata


    Yeah i was a bit harsh on PH now i think about it, just cos their recent doesnt make em any less impressive. A great guy too. Still think O Driscoll is a big fish in a small pond tho, and his placing is more a sign of his popularity than anything else. (altho a superb athlete and fantastic achievements in his own sport)


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