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Is it ok to use terms like 'British Isles' in a GAA Documentary to place Croker

  • 31-12-2009 1:10pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,315 ✭✭✭


    RTE showed an excellent documentary last week on all the goings on in the background on All-Ireland Final Day.
    However the narrator used the term 'British Isles' to describe the location of Croke Park. As GAA fans that understand the 125 year history of organisation do you feel this was an offensive term to use?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 777 ✭✭✭Mayoegian


    Tomthepost wrote: »
    RTE showed an excellent documentary last week on all the goings on in the background on All-Ireland Final Day.
    However the narrator used the term 'British Isles' to describe the location of Croke Park. As GAA fans that understand the 125 year history of organisation do you feel this was an offensive term to use?


    Not offensive......just an insensitive term to use.


    I would think that term was deliberately used imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭Twin-go


    But we do live in the British Isles:confused:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Isles


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 777 ✭✭✭Mayoegian


    Mayoegian wrote: »
    Not offensive......just an insensitive term to use.


    I would think that term was deliberately used imo.


    Actually no, twas an offensive thing to say actually. Croke Park being described as in the British Isles?! Give me a break. Typical RTE.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,181 ✭✭✭✭Jim


    Geographically speaking we are in the British Isles. Same was as when someone on the west coast of England / Wales steps into the sea they step into the "Irish Sea".

    It is the correct term, but with the target audience in mind possibly not the smartest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,908 ✭✭✭Daysha


    Nope. I was surprised when I heard it but not a hope was I actually 'offended' by it. It was used to express a geographical location in a simple way and nothing more.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 720 ✭✭✭kierank01


    Tomthepost wrote: »
    RTE showed an excellent documentary last week on all the goings on in the background on All-Ireland Final Day.
    However the narrator used the term 'British Isles' to describe the location of Croke Park. As GAA fans that understand the 125 year history of organisation do you feel this was an offensive term to use?

    I saw that as well, and though I can't remember exactly what was said, is was used in reference to the size of Croke Park in that geographical area. What term would you have perferred they use?

    What I thought was more offensive was the hundreds of people in the corporate boxes getting their mash, not even looking at the match.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭Twin-go


    I'm sure this Documentry will be sold in sindicate around the world. Probably not just for an Irish "Nationalist" audience.
    Have we really not advanced beyond getting upset every time someone mentions "British" in a sentence? Come on people get over it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 609 ✭✭✭Perfect fit


    Geographically we are part of the british isles, if he had of said the United Kingdom/Great Britian it would have been a different story


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    I cant believe that people in this day and age would be offended by it, though it doesnt surprise me!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,181 ✭✭✭✭Jim


    kierank01 wrote: »
    I saw that as well, and though I can't remember exactly what was said, is was used in reference to the size of Croke Park in that geographical area.

    Ah, of course they'd use it in that sense. Include Britian when we're saying the thing we have is bigger than the thing they have.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Wikipedia sums it up best:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_British_Isles
    The British monarch was head of state of all of the countries of the British Isles from the Union of the Crowns in 1603 until the enactment of the Republic of Ireland Act in 1949, although the term "British Isles" was not used in 1603. Additionally, since the independence of Ireland, historians of the region often avoid the term British Isles due to the complexity of relations between the peoples of the archipelago
    My take on it is that the term came about when we were all under British rule. But, newsflash, we're no longer under British rule. Only the British seem to still use the term.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,676 ✭✭✭✭smashey


    Tomthepost,

    You know very well where this arguement led last week on this thread.

    In light of Cruiserweight's comments there, I'm locking this as I also don't want to see good posters get into silly arguements.


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