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Second-hand Goods / Cheaper clothing

  • 28-12-2009 10:41pm
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    Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭


    10-15 years ago as a kid, I was always label conscious and it felt like everyone around me was the same.. People had to have the best and newest stuff.

    It feels like in the last five years, everyone's attitude has turned to "cheapest is best" and this is a great thing imo.. Now the pride for alot of people in their clothing is that it only cost 20quid in Penneys. Like my jacket for work, 25euro and it's perfect.

    I'm looking at buying a second-hand tv, something my parents would never even think of doing.. But it's the same difference and I'd save near 500euro. Where did the whole change come from? It's not the recession as it changed before that. It just feels like labels arn't as important to people anymore.. Like they collectively got sick of being ripped off.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 450 ✭✭xw2lj9uspm1eyh


    Yeah i noticed the same why pay 80 euro for a Ben Sherman shirt with a little flag on it when ya could get the same looking one in Pennys for 20-25.Think people nowadays buy what looks good on em regardless of label or not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    Budget brands have just become more prominent, maybe due to immigration? Aldis and Lidls are commonplace in Europe, with more European immigration maybe companies felt there was more of a market here and in Ireland for cheaper places?

    Supermarkets have only in the last few years started producing quality clothes. Women's magazines now (so the mother tells me) have many features on 'How to look good on a budget' etc.

    Times just change don't they? It'd be hard to pin-point the exact moment of the change though IMO


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,651 ✭✭✭Captain Slow IRL


    I think fleabay has a lot to do with this mentality - age is another thing. When you're younger, (18-21, etc.) you're probably more image conscious and as keen as possible to impress the fairer sex.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    brummytom wrote: »
    Times just change don't they? It'd be hard to pin-point the exact moment of the change though IMO

    Come to think of it, maybe it was the Lidl and Aldi chains arriving.. I remember alot of snobbery at the time where alot of people wouldn't be seen to head to there. Now, it's just like any other supermarket for most people and this attitude crosses over to other items like clothing..

    I think fleabay has a lot to do with this mentality - age is another thing. When you're younger, (18-21, etc.) you're probably more image conscious and as keen as possible to impress the fairer sex.

    Well I'm 22 :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    I've never been into brand names, none of my clothes cost over 20 euro...


    Finding bargains is brilliant :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    phasers wrote: »
    I've never been into brand names, none of my clothes cost over 20 euro...


    Finding bargains is brilliant :D
    ASDA George FTW :D:D


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    I got an awesome suit jacket for a fiver, think somebody deied i it, love second hand clothes shop :p


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I got an awesome suit jacket for a fiver, think somebody deied i it, love second hand clothes shop :p

    Patrick Bateman would not approve.. tut tut.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Freecycling, ftw. I got some shelves, tall lamps and an inflatible mattress for free from a guy moving away.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    30 or so years ago, many families were getting "red cross" parcels from relatives in the UK & US and clothing the kids that way (much to their embarrassment), it's no wonder why so many people here became very label conscious!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,529 ✭✭✭TJJP


    I never buy crap. Savings are relative. Olymp or such like shirts at €30 down from €100 are value. Pennys €5 is always €5 and rarely value. Mind you Pennys €5 versus Olymp €100 means Pennys wins on all counts. Buy pennys when you have to, buy the quality when you can.

    Sales ain't for Christmas, the're for life; that's why I've an extra million in the bank.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    TJJP wrote: »
    Buy pennys when you have to, buy the quality when you can.

    The good thing now is that people arn't as conscious about wearing the 5euro Pennys shirt like they might have been in the past..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 438 ✭✭gerry28


    I got a jacket in asda for £15, so far so good. It might come apart in a strong gale but till then i'm more than happy with it.

    In my early 20's everything had to be labels.

    What do people in their early 20's think now have they come along to the cheap side too or is it just an age thing??


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Well I'm 22 and everyone around me is the same.. No one label conscious anymore really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    TJJP wrote: »
    I never buy crap. Savings are relative. Olymp or such like shirts at €30 down from €100 are value. Pennys €5 is always €5 and rarely value. Mind you Pennys €5 versus Olymp €100 means Pennys wins on all counts. Buy pennys when you have to, buy the quality when you can.
    .
    I got a pair of boots in Penneys for a fiver (Well two pairs, one black once brown), marked down from twenty, Still going strong after two years :cool:

    I've also been finding awesome coats for 9 quid marked down from 30/40 euro


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I would never, under any circumstances buy second hand clothes. The thought is just disgusting. I generally don't shop in Dunnes Stores or Penny's as I don't think the quality there is of a high standard. I would purchase shorts and tee shirts there for holidays though. I would also never buy anything Ben Sherman or Tommy Hilfiger. They are not exclusive or upmarket as people might assume. They are just as common as Dunnes Stores, Pennys etc.. and a lot of the people who wear them are scumbags/chavs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,051 ✭✭✭Whosbetter?


    To think that a pair of Levis 501s cost £50 back in '87ish.

    Putting that into context, I was earning £80 a week back then working in engineering.

    Clothes are incredibley cheap now alright.

    Having said that, if your buying the cheap stuff,always buy at least a size or two bigger cos they'll always shrink after being washed.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I would never, under any circumstances buy second hand clothes. The thought is just disgusting. I generally don't shop in Dunnes Stores or Penny's as I don't think the quality there is of a high standard. I would purchase shorts and tee shirts there for holidays though. I would also never buy anything Ben Sherman or Tommy Hilfiger. They are not exclusive or upmarket as people might assume. They are just as common as Dunnes Stores, Pennys etc.. and a lot of the people who wear them are scumbags/chavs.

    I wouldn't go for second hand clothes either.. I meant cheap clothes and second hand tvs etc.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I wouldn't go for second hand clothes either.. I meant cheap clothes and second hand tvs etc.
    Oh right. I would definitely buy cheap clothes for kids though. I wouldn't buy second hand anything. I wouldn't even buy something that is perfectly fine but on display in a shop. It's not being snobby but everything just has to be brand new and not previously owned for me. I'd freak if I found out something I had was the opposite.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Oh right. I would definitely buy cheap clothes for kids though. I wouldn't buy second hand anything. I wouldn't even buy something that is perfectly fine but on display in a shop. It's not being snobby but everything just has to be brand new and not previously owned for me. I'd freak if I found out something I had was the opposite.

    Why so?

    And why would you buy cheap for the kids, but expensive for yourself?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,178 ✭✭✭✭NothingMan


    Growing up when I was a kid my 5 older sisters were mad for labels and I just wanted anything cheap, comfortable and preferably black. My Mam loved it and use to make sure I was ok wearing the Asics runners (ironically enough are now quite expensive).

    Nowadays i'm 24 and earning ok money. I bought a John Rocha shirt for €60 and it had a big white designer label on it (it was a dark shirt) and I thought it ruined it so I spent 20 mins carefully picking it off with a stanley blade.

    I have never cared about labels and will happily spend more money on nice clothes no matter what the label.

    As for Penney's I find their clothes keep their shape way longer than say Jack & Jones which shrink and ball up after 1 wash and they're 4 times the price.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 357 ✭✭K-Ren


    I've bought a few bits from a second-hand clothes/everything shop in Limerick; I don't go in there to save money or because I'm label concious, I just like getting stuff that's a bit different. I really like second-hand bookshops too, it's fun to buy interesting things for a euro or that- I know someone who heads into our local Somalia shop on a monthly basis for old viynls.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,016 ✭✭✭Blush_01


    Bought a really, really nice handbag in a charity shop in Cork for €8. It's the very best fake I've seen in a long time, if not real. I was delighted.

    If it's not on sale, I'm usually not interested.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,877 ✭✭✭stripysocks85


    I think it depends on your social circle and the people you mix with/work with etc.

    For myself, I couldn't care less whether the dress I'm wearing is from Penneys or Warehouse or Coast [I'd like a Coast one but really, how many places can I wear the same €300 dress?!]

    Some people are still obsessed with labels, so don't be misled by your friends' lack of interest in them. Brown Thomas, Arnotts etc are extremely popular [I can't see the obsession at ALL and have been in Brown Thomas about 3 times EVER!] and there was someone that posted a picture of a bag they'd purchased which cost over a grand?!

    So I gotta say, go for it with your second hand tv, I'd be the same [I love my bargains!] but the label bridgade are still around!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,877 ✭✭✭stripysocks85


    I would never, under any circumstances buy second hand clothes. The thought is just disgusting. I generally don't shop in Dunnes Stores or Penny's as I don't think the quality there is of a high standard. I would purchase shorts and tee shirts there for holidays though. I would also never buy anything Ben Sherman or Tommy Hilfiger. They are not exclusive or upmarket as people might assume. They are just as common as Dunnes Stores, Pennys etc.. and a lot of the people who wear them are scumbags/chavs.
    What does it matter, as long as you [obviously] wash them first?? :S

    I mean if something is in good condition, and has only been worn a handful of times yet is a fraction of the original price then why would you [literally] turn your nose up at that???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,178 ✭✭✭✭NothingMan


    So I gotta say, go for it with your second hand tv, I'd be the same [I love my bargains!] but the label bridgade are still around!

    Have to say although I don't care about labels I am a tech whore. I wouldn't get a 2nd hand TV cos the next TV I buy will have to be LED with Web access. I bought a 32" flatscreen CRT and gave that to my Mam 13 months later to buy a 37" LCD. My Mam was pretty happy, my bank account wasn't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,877 ✭✭✭stripysocks85


    NothingMan wrote: »
    Have to say although I don't care about labels I am a tech whore. I wouldn't get a 2nd hand TV cos the next TV I buy will have to be LED with Web access. I bought a 32" flatscreen CRT and gave that to my Mam 13 months later to buy a 37" LCD. My Mam was pretty happy, my bank account wasn't.
    To be honest, I don't know if I would buy second hand electricial things either, as you don't know the previous owners' usage/handling of the product, and they can be so fickle sometimes. It's very difficult from looking at a laptop say, to know how much it has been used!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭Agricola


    Second hand clothes, no. I buy a good bit of cheap non labelled stuff if its of decent quality. Ive often picked up the likes of polo shirts in Heatons which are ridiculously cheap but are good quality cotton.
    I used to be into labels when I was younger but i just dont give a shít anymore. The most important thing is if the item of clothing is comfortable and looks good on you. Ive often had expensive stuff that hangs on me like spud sack, while sometimes a 40 euro jacket is perfect.

    Would almost always go with brand new electronic gear. The only exception being a refurbished IBM laptop that i got online for a fraction of the cost of a new one. Works great and havent had any issues with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭Sea Sharp


    I bought Jeans in tkmax 4 years ago for 20euro. They're still in my wardrobe.
    I bought converse from a shop 2 months ago for 80euro and they already look like they're falling apart.

    Go figure.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,115 ✭✭✭Pdfile


    10-15 years ago as a kid, I was always label conscious and it felt like everyone around me was the same.. People had to have the best and newest stuff.

    It feels like in the last five years, everyone's attitude has turned to "cheapest is best" and this is a great thing imo.. Now the pride for alot of people in their clothing is that it only cost 20quid in Penneys. Like my jacket for work, 25euro and it's perfect.

    I'm looking at buying a second-hand tv, something my parents would never even think of doing.. But it's the same difference and I'd save near 500euro. Where did the whole change come from? It's not the recession as it changed before that. It just feels like labels arn't as important to people anymore.. Like they collectively got sick of being ripped off.



    speak for yourself but if it looks good and its 1 euro ill have it, if its 100,1000,10000 it doesn't make a difference really, im not loyal to labels, just what looks good or is most practical


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,477 ✭✭✭Kipperhell


    I used to buy second hand clothes for the "retro look" I liked at the time and really enjoyed the hunting for items I liked. The strange things was certain brands were what I went for because of the quality. I am not particularly bothered by wanting brands but it can put me off some clothes especially if the brand name is on show.

    I tend to go for quality for price. A Penny's top usually isn't worth it but they have vastly improved over the years on style so can be very throw away.

    I bought a coat for €300 which was very expensive to me but it was reduced from €1500 the quality is very noticeable. Price for brand name is silly to me but some high end brands are at least relevant to quality.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,565 ✭✭✭Dymo


    Same here years ago I might have liked some brand names, but now I don't care if it's Dunnes, Pennys or the pound shop. But I think there quality has improved alot also.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    It just feels like labels arn't as important to people anymore.

    People got sick of being walking billboards.
    Paying big money to do the advertising for these companies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    I've started to buy more clothes from Pennies etc. the price difference is massive compared to the likes of River Island and there really isn't much of a quality drop in the stuff

    I also recently bought a TV and living room suite that were both display models in the shops.. got a huge discount on them


  • Posts: 24,714 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Most of the stuff in dunnes and pennys is terrible tbh.

    I will usually spend decent money on clothes as they are much better fitting, look better and last much longer. I don't buy clothes that often but when I do it will be fairly good stuff. I get a lot of stuff from the US aswell as my sister has been over a good few times. Really good abercrombie polos etc are not much more than pennys prices over there but in a different universe for quality and fit.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭Abi


    Most of the stuff in dunnes and pennys is terrible tbh.

    Dunnes would be a bit better than Pennys imo, and I've bought the odd thing in Dunnes. Pennys- the quality is shyte, most of the stuff never looks right again after the first wash. I don't think I've been in a Pennys since they brought in all that neon shyte.

    I get what I need from A-wear, TK, New Look and online. I'd buy second hand goods if I had to, but not clothes. I don't judge people who do, but I'd just rather not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭The Pontiac


    To think that a pair of Levis 501s cost £50 back in '87ish.

    Indeed they were and everyone wanted a pair of them too. Imagine the profit margins on them back then - they were probably made in some third world country by someone on 50c an hour..
    I wouldn't go for second hand clothes either.. I meant cheap clothes and second hand tvs etc.

    A lot of the audiophiles out there need to have the latest av and hi-fi stuff. They just got to have it!! It's called upgradtitus. The hi-end gear made by Arcam, Nad, Rotel etc. has a very, very long life span. You can get this stuff at a fraction of its original price if you know where to look. Like a good pair of speakers, or even a full 5.1 setup, are the least risky of all purchases and they could last you for the rest of your life. You can get speakers made by the specialists (Monitor Audio, B&W, Kef etc.) at incredible bargains if you know where to look.

    If I were buying a second-hand TV I'd be looking at one that's still under warranty (or one that was bought with an extended 3 or 5 year warranty), and I'd be looking for a serious reduction on its original rrp. They can be found too. A lot of this full HD (not HD itself) and contrast ratio etc. stuff is a load of marketing crap and should be dismissed right away.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,763 ✭✭✭Jax Teller


    My mate is really Into his labels . Spent 800 euro on Xmas clothes before he got one present for anyone. And he's not loaded


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    Why so?

    And why would you buy cheap for the kids, but expensive for yourself?

    Well I don't have kids yet, but if/when I do, I'd buy them cheaper clothes because they simply wouldn't care what they are wearing or care for them for that matter and grow out of them so fast. I don't really consider Next, Jack Jones, Abercrombie to be expensive really.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    What does it matter, as long as you [obviously] wash them first?? :S

    I mean if something is in good condition, and has only been worn a handful of times yet is a fraction of the original price then why would you [literally] turn your nose up at that???

    Because someone else has worn it. I could wash it a thousand times and I'd still be same. Their BO all over it! Who knows what the previous owner did with it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭The Pontiac


    GaNjaHaN wrote: »
    I bought Jeans in tkmax 4 years ago for 20euro. They're still in my wardrobe.
    I bought converse from a shop 2 months ago for 80euro and they already look like they're falling apart.

    Go figure.

    I bought a pair of converse a year ago for €25 and I love them. Go figure. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    I got fake converse in Dunnes for a euro 4 years ago and they're still perfect (except for being really dirty). Go figure.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I bought a pair of KSWISS trainers for €90 2 years ago and they are still in good condition. That is pure quality for you. I mean if I bought then cheap Kappa or Dunne ones for €25 there is no way they'd still be around today. Go figure!


  • Posts: 24,714 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    phasers wrote: »
    I got fake converse in Dunnes for a euro 4 years ago and they're still perfect (except for being really dirty). Go figure.

    Id rather pay for the real ones than wreck my feet with poorly designed cheap shoes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 970 ✭✭✭Kirnsy


    GaNjaHaN wrote: »
    I bought Jeans in tkmax 4 years ago for 20euro. They're still in my wardrobe.
    I bought converse from a shop 2 months ago for 80euro and they already look like they're falling apart.

    Go figure.

    you don't like wearing jeans with converse?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭Sea Sharp


    you don't like wearing jeans with converse?
    I do.
    I think I might have just got a bad deal. the side of the outside of the soles are coming off.
    Don't buy converse in Foot Locker.
    This was an example to show that high price doesn't always mean high quality.
    ..
    ..
    Go Figure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,814 ✭✭✭TPD


    I bought a long grey wool and cashmere coat in a charity shop for a fiver. Twinge of old man smell, but perfect condition. A little too big for me, gave it to my da, fits him like a glove, as if it was tailored for him. Cnut :mad:

    Would have easily cost €200+ new, in pretty much the same condition. Minus the old man smell.


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