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Why are small towns so narrow minded?

  • 28-12-2009 8:14pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Hi, I am home for the xmas and have been having great fun catching up friends and going drinking over the holidays. I normally never go out in my home town as I live in London but I do enjoy being home and seeing everybody. The thing that really bothers me though is that every night I have been home I have had something said to be or somebody start some crap in pubs and clubs. It is not a pretty small town so everybody sort of ends up in the same spots a nights. I dress a little alternative for this town and would stand out a bit but anybody who is from Dublin or any city would see people in town every few minutes who dress like me. Its crazy if I was in London or Dublin I would be seeing as stylish but at home I am called a ****** becoz of how I dress.

    There has always been these type of guys living at home who never leave the town in their lives and think that they are the absolute be all and end all. I wasn't exactly expecting to come and expect everybody to be all liberal and stuff but jesus in this day and age you would expect to be able to go out with friends and enjoy yourself without people saying sly remarks about your clothes. It really pisses me off because while I dont let this stuff bother me in general it can have a dampener on your night and holidays in general. I usually just laugh it off as these people are obviously complete idiots who have superiority issues and have and most likely will never leave the town. I am not trying to sound pretentious or like I am better than anyone but lets face it, if you are from a small town you know who I am talking about. Is it that these people think because such a person left the town to go to college or work that they think they are better than the town or something? My best friends in the world are from home and there are lots of amazing people from here but it sucks to come home for xmas and be literally bullied because I don't speak with a townie twang and wear clothes from shops like replay. If you are any way different to the general residents of the town you are automatically a target.


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  • They just are. That's how small towns work. They're boring, they see the same old people day in and day out so anything remotely 'different' is gossiped about. When you live somewhere like London you forget that those attitudes exist because people in a big city have better things to do/think about than what people are wearing. There's not much you can do about it other than ignore the comments and not let them get to you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    I understand where you're coming from, but I find it somewhat ironic that you talk about the locals having a 'superiority complex' when you yourself dismiss them for not being as 'with-it' as you.

    I'm not having a go at you, I'm just saying that tolerance cuts both ways.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,640 ✭✭✭Pushtrak


    Avoid Limerick. That type of crap happens here a lot.
    dudara wrote: »
    I understand where you're coming from, but I find it somewhat ironic that you talk about the locals having a 'superiority complex' when you yourself dismiss them for not being as 'with-it' as you.

    I'm not having a go at you, I'm just saying that tolerance cuts both ways.
    There is being tolerant of what others want to do, and being friends with people and then there are those who without knowing you will treat you like ****. Anybody who treats another negatively without knowing the person is not treating you with tolerance, and doesn't deserve anything back.

    And I mean anything. Don't rise to the bait.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 248 ✭✭bSlick


    mikemac wrote: »
    Do you look down on people who stayed at home and didn't emigrate to a foreign country when the going got tough? If you're from a small town they many of the locals at your age group will be taking over farms, they simply cannot emigrate or travel like you did, that option is not there.

    I understand there is a small town mentality all over Ireland anyone who aims to be different will be swiftly put down.
    But it seems to me you are dismissive also

    The difference is the op would have absolutely no problem with these people if they weren't picking on him/her. He is right to be dismissive of this backward small town attitude.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,884 ✭✭✭Eve_Dublin


    bSlick wrote: »
    The difference is the op would have absolutely no problem with these people if they weren't picking on him/her. He is right to be dismissive of this backward small town attitude.

    I'm from a small town, I live in a big city and I can tell you now that small-mindedness exists in big cities too. I lived in London for a few years and sometimes Londoners can be the most small-minded of all....they thought London was the be-all and end-all of the world and completly ignored the rest of England.

    I adopted that mentality as well to some extent because the place sucks you in (that's when I knew it was time to move on). I lived in Bethnal Green, a very trendy part of London and there was a common misconception that because you wore trendy clothes and were into art that you were somehow more open-minded and cultured than everyone else. A lot (not the majority) of these people lived in a bubble and would rarely socialise in other areas and no doubt there would be people who'd make snide remarks if a farmer from your town walked into their trendy bar in the whole farmer regalia (or they might have thought he was being "ironic" and copied his style the following week). I've come across some of the rudest people in my life in cities and the loveliest, friendliest most unpretentious people in my small town but there's no rule. D-heads have no nation or preference for a city or small-town.

    These people making nasty comments aren't small-minded, they're just being idiots and you find this everywhere. Just ignore them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭cafecolour


    Eh. People here like to take the piss. Learn to deal with it a bit, it's a good skill to have.

    If it's overly aggro like they want a fight ("What sort of ****** dresses like that!") you just look at them like they're a psychopath and slowly back away.

    If it's a sly remark from mates or acquaintances, well there's plenty of comebacks, most of which are subtly (or not so subtly) implying that a guy commenting on another guys clothes is a bit gay. Ie:

    In a bemused fashion: "Are you actually checking out another dudes clothes? Who knew you've blossomed into such a gay fashion critic since I've been here."

    or

    With a laugh "You're not my audience man. Don't worry yourself, they work quite well with the ladies."

    You can do similar with a 'when in rome' attitude - ie, with a shrug "It's what gets the women in London (or wherever).

    And so on and so forth. Or you can just ignore it. So someone has a little laugh at your expense - it's not really the end of the world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭cafecolour


    Oh as to your question. I 2nd Eve's "there are idiots everywhere" statement. Just in small towns everyone is consider more part of the same social circle and the idiots feel more comfortable making comments.

    In a city, people break into smaller social circles, often with more like minded sort. The idiots are socializing with other idiots, and are generally not calling out random comments to strangers on the street.

    Being tolerant doesn't mean approving - it just means you learn to keep your mouth shut and deal with people even it you don't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    I'm with Eve, just a few months ago there was a thread in Fashion and Appearances from someone who was upset about snide comments made to her in Dublin about how she was dressed. It happens all over the place. Plenty of Londoners laugh at how other dress too. Have you never heard people sneering at "Hoxton/Shoreditch Twats?" Have you never seen people in runners be turned away from a nightclub? Or people in hoodies being watched suspiciously in shops?

    The bigger the town/city the more chance there is for you to meet people who share your sense of style so you have more freedom and security to dress that way. It also means people are more used to seeing people wearing different types of clothing so they aren't going to stare/be shocked by it. But it doesn't mean there aren't lots of people who think that you (or anyone else) look ridiculous.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭Denerick


    To be honest, I would probably be one of the people making a snide comment to the OP. This isn't because I'm illiberal or because I'm from a small town, but just because I find fashionista's unbearably self important. I live in Dublin, and I see the same attitudes from Trinity students (Where I study in final year), it just happens to be done in an inverse fashion. We all have superiority complexes, its not too difficult to see that I see myself as superior by insisting on remaining within the median, the op is superior for insisting on dressing alternatively, and the small town rednecks are superior for dressing the 'correct way', according to their fashion (Never mind the humourless pun)

    But of course, I would only make the snide comment if the OP was a friend/acquaintance, and only with a sly smile and in the expectation of some derisive comment aimed back at me in return. Randomers who think they can take the piss of someone if they don't know the person are just bad people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,428 ✭✭✭Powerhouse


    fifthfify wrote: »

    Its crazy if I was in London or Dublin I would be seeing as stylish but at home I am called a ****** becoz of how I dress.


    You could get the living crap kicked out of you in London or Dublin for dressing/acting/speaking in a certain way. I would be very slow to use the word 'liberal' about any person or place as in my experience those who describe themselves as liberal merely have another set of narrow prejudices.

    It reminds me of the Irish journalist who described himself on television as a 'libertarian' while in the same breath - and without apparent realisation of the irony - slating travellers for being a shower of f*ckers for not living heir lives in the same manner as the rest of us!

    Dublin/London might be considered liberal (relatively) but at the same time look at the number of people with whom you wouldn't really want to make eye contact.

    This does not address your small-town problem but just questions the idea that narrow-mindedness is confined to such places. Once you consider liberal thinking to mean genuine acceptance of all shades of human nature rather than just a particular set of "sophisticated" and mainstream left-wing values then you realise that you have this thinking in every corner of the globe. That it might be delivered with a few bons mots and upmarket banter doesn't change that.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 138 ✭✭Robbie444


    Powerhouse wrote: »
    You could get the living crap kicked out of you in London or Dublin for dressing/acting/speaking in a certain way. I would be very slow to use the word 'liberal' about any person or place as in my experience those who describe themselves as liberal merely have another set of narrow prejudices.

    It reminds me of the Irish journalist who described himself on television as a 'libertarian' while in the same breath - and without apparent realisation of the irony - slating travellers for being a shower of f*ckers for not living heir lives in the same manner as the rest of us!

    Dublin/London might be considered liberal (relatively) but at the same time look at the number of people with whom you wouldn't really want to make eye contact.

    This does not address your small-town problem but just questions the idea that narrow-mindedness is confined to such places. Once you consider liberal thinking to mean genuine acceptance of all shades of human nature rather than just a particular set of "sophisticated" and mainstream left-wing values then you realise that you have this thinking in every corner of the globe. That it might be delivered with a few bons mots and upmarket banter doesn't change that.

    Ok think you might be reading a little too deep in to this. While I am not saying your are wrong or anything, I think OP might have just meant acceptance by liberal. The bottom line here is that in every small town AND big city there are thick idiots who will attack anything that they cannot immediately identify with. Wearing 'stylish' clothes is a sign of weakness as it represents a sort of feminine side to a guy, that's the way they see it. Lol sure I got called a fag for wearing a scarf once back home! The people who will shout things at a total randomer or approach you for a fight are the bottom of the barrel in society, I don't care what anyone says!

    It is fine to grow up with certain beliefs based on never really engaging with people from outside your community, this is totally normal and just an effect of society. However, thinking a guy looks gay and shouting it as an abusive remark at him for no reason defines their character imo. It is ok for someone to believe somebody looks gay or what ever but to attack someone for it is makes you a scum bag. The reason you see this more in small towns is because small towns dont have as many places to go so you end up sharing the same bars and clubs as nackers where as in big cities you would most likely go places with few or no nackers. Oh and by nackers I do not been travellers, just your average unintelligent, uncultured, tracksuit wearing piece of crap!

    The way I look at it you have a few different categories of people who settle in small towns. Firstly you have the really nice natives who you grew up with and have known for years. Then you have the town regulars who are also nice enough but some of these keep to their own and sort of associate themselves with being a town regular. These are usually the people who you chat briefly with in town when out at night and the always seem to be out every weekend or night that there is anyhting going on. I call these 'the bhoys'.

    Then you have the nacks! Yep every town has them, some more than others. These are the tracksuit wearing, trance music listening filthy swine bags who start fights outside chippers and hurl abuse at "that queer wearing the scarf". They are have usually never left the town in their lives and come from a some what rough back round. Although on saying this, I know plenty of guys I went to school with who came from way more well off families than me but still turned out to be a nacker hanging around outside shopping centres every day. I blame this on parenting though as I came from a rough enough estate but luckily my folks were tough on us and made sure we didn't fall in to the wrong crowds. I am forever grateful to them for this and hope I can do the same some day.

    But small towns will always be small towns and you are often more likely to get abuse here than in cities as you cant just blend into the backgrounds as easy. Avoiding narrow minded people is harder so while there are even more narrow minded people in big cities, you just dont have to face them as often as you do in small towns. Hope some of this makes sense, just my take on being from a small town. lol plz excuse the grammar and spelling, its pretty appalling!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭Denerick


    The reason you see this more in small towns is because small towns dont have as many places to go so you end up sharing the same bars and clubs as nackers where as in big cities you would most likely go places with few or no nackers. Oh and by nackers I do not been travellers, just your average unintelligent, uncultured, tracksuit wearing piece of crap!

    And the wonderful wheel that is human hypocrisy goes round and round once again...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭Denerick


    The way I look at it you have a few different categories of people who settle in small towns. Firstly you have the really nice natives who you grew up with and have known for years. Then you have the town regulars who are also nice enough but some of these keep to their own and sort of associate themselves with being a town regular. These are usually the people who you chat briefly with in town when out at night and the always seem to be out every weekend or night that there is anyhting going on. I call these 'the bhoys'.

    Then you have the nacks! Yep every town has them, some more than others. These are the tracksuit wearing, trance music listening filthy swine bags who start fights outside chippers and hurl abuse at "that queer wearing the scarf". They are have usually never left the town in their lives and come from a some what rough back round. Although on saying this, I know plenty of guys I went to school with who came from way more well off families than me but still turned out to be a nacker hanging around outside shopping centres every day. I blame this on parenting though as I came from a rough enough estate but luckily my folks were tough on us and made sure we didn't fall in to the wrong crowds. I am forever grateful to them for this and hope I can do the same some day.

    Why are you summing up human civilisation in such a way? You yourself state that you are one of the variables. The problems lies in this insistence to box people away and thus it makes it rather easy to ignore or forget them. The OP and yourself are both unwittingly guilty of the exact same prejudices as the 'knacks' who slag you off for wearing a pinstripe suit in a local pub on a friday night, or whatever it is!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭Monkey61


    Denerick wrote: »
    And the wonderful wheel that is human hypocrisy goes round and round once again...

    Ah to be fair I don't think he is for one second implying that everyone who wears a tracksuit or is unintelligent etc is scum. I presume that is directly referring to those who do, and who start fights, hurl abuse at strangers and generally act like an idiot.

    Judging people on what they wear and how they look is prejudice. Judging people on their bad behaviour I would say is not.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 138 ✭✭Robbie444


    Denerick wrote: »
    Why are you summing up human civilisation in such a way? You yourself state that you are one of the variables. The problems lies in this insistence to box people away and thus it makes it rather easy to ignore or forget them. The OP and yourself are both unwittingly guilty of the exact same prejudices as the 'knacks' who slag you off for wearing a pinstripe suit in a local pub on a friday night, or whatever it is!

    Oh please, you sound like some academic type who is all about fixing humanity and addressing our inner prejudices when nobody really gives a dam, no offence. You do sound very intelligent and all but do you really think this what you are saying in evident to real life situations? I seriously don't think so. Ok not everybody who wears a tracksuit is a 'knack' but the one who bottled me when I was 17 for no reason was a knack and the ones I say on Stephen's nite fighting a taxi driver, yes they are knackers! So what exactly are you trying to say that we should all walk around and hug each other and sing about how we are all equal? Have you actually ever had a run in with knackers? Ever been kicked in the face outside of supermac's for no reason? Its amazing how it can change you view!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭Denerick


    Robbie444 wrote: »
    Oh please, you sound like some academic type who is all about fixing humanity and addressing our inner prejudices when nobody really gives a dam, no offence. You do sound very intelligent and all but do you really think this what you are saying in evident to real life situations? I seriously don't think so. Ok not everybody who wears a tracksuit is a 'knack' but the one who bottled me when I was 17 for no reason was a knack and the ones I say on Stephen's nite fighting a taxi driver, yes they are knackers! So what exactly are you trying to say that we should all walk around and hug each other and sing about how we are all equal? Have you actually ever had a run in with knackers? Ever been kicked in the face outside of supermac's for no reason? Its amazing how it can change you view!

    What? How is my life experience really important here? I have been beaten half to death by a 'scanger' since you ask, and the person who picked me up from the ground was wearing a tracksuit. There is good and bad in every walk of life.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 138 ✭✭Robbie444


    The problem with some academics is they base their ideologies on research and literature published rather than their own life experience. Yes theoretically they may be correct but society will always have the biggest influence on how people perceive other people. Accept that not everybody will share your views as right as they may often be. Most people just will not think the same way you do about things and base their beliefs on personal life experience.
    And I think you are exercising a sort of superior type attitude yourself by replying to a thread like this preaching all of your trinity gained knowledge over people that clearly are not discussing this issue to the depth you are. What do you expect for everybody to just go "oh wow you are right, I never thought of it like that". Save it man seriously. Lol, this sort of reminds me of the Wire, on the subject of society and all. Happy New Year! :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭Denerick


    Robbie444 wrote: »
    The problem with some academics is they base their ideologies on research and literature published rather than their own life experience. Yes theoretically they may be correct but society will always have the biggest influence on how people perceive other people. Accept that not everybody will share your views as right as they may often be. Most people just will not think the same way you do about things and base their beliefs on personal life experience.
    And I think you are exercising a sort of superior type attitude yourself by replying to a thread like this preaching all of your trinity gained knowledge over people that clearly are not discussing this issue to the depth you are. What do you expect for everybody to just go "oh wow you are right, I never thought of it like that". Save it man seriously. Lol, this sort of reminds me of the Wire, on the subject of society and all. Happy New Year! :)

    There you go again! Judging me because I happen to go to Trinity... And were are you getting this idea that I'm an academic? And why would I bother posting on a thread if I didn't want to change opinions? Why do you post on the internet? Your big long winded post did exactly the same thing.

    I'm just talking about prejudices, and how its rather hard to stomach these attitudes from people like the OP whenever they clearly show the same prejudices in their trendy London bars. I see the same among Trinity students? Does this make me have a superiority complex? Yes it does, I already said that! Now get off your high horse!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 138 ✭✭Robbie444


    Denerick wrote: »
    There you go again! Judging me because I happen to go to Trinity... And were are you getting this idea that I'm an academic?

    So what you go to Trinity, I didn't mean it like that. I could have gone to Trinity also but just the course I wanted was in UCD, no biggie. Its just a college. It sounds like you have a bit of a chip on your shoulder against people in society who believe they are superior to others. That is fair enough but just because they OP mentioned London doesn't mean he was refering to London 'trendy bars' and 'pin stripe suits'? I think you are pulling these images out of your own head based on what you perceive a person who lives in London to be like or something. This topic was only about going home to a small town and having scummers abuse ya, where are you getting the notion that the OP is some cosmo sipping, Armani suit wearing London socialite who go's down to the local and complains when the towns folk give him crap? Ok enough of this, I'm off for a few pints, I hope no riff raff block the footpaths on the way :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    Posters, cease and desist right now.

    You've dragged this thread off-topic. Continue to do so and there will be consequences.

    If you wish to argue further, take it to PM or start a thread in Humanities (or somewhere suitable)

    dudara


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,214 ✭✭✭wylo


    Hi OP, unfortunately in small towns, in Ireland, or probably any country, dressing and looking different sort of gives off a bit of an attention seeking vibe. Locals either get annoyed by this or just like to have a laugh at it. Don't take it personally.
    Like yourself, Ive done the whole small town thing, and also lived in a very alternative part of Sydney(oxford st). I guess I just learned to appreciate everyone was different, and that some people are less appreciative than others.

    But everyone has narrow mindedness based on their own experiences. Its generally a fear of the unknown.
    Like someone else said , imagine a farmer gaa head with Mayo jersey on sitting in a real alternative art student cafe or something. He'd probably get similar looks.
    Or imagine you were with your friends in London sitting in a bar and in walked a man with a bikini on. No doubt he'd get some comments. Whats the difference? There is none. Both are not the norm thats all.
    Sometimes its situations like these that help answer a question in your life of whether you want to settle abroad or not.
    I dont know what age you are, but Ive a feeling when you get a bit older you wont experience this problem because it wont bother you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭Bottle_of_Smoke


    The problem could be with you. People can smell self-consciousness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 142 ✭✭RustyBeanTin


    fifthfify wrote: »
    because I don't speak with a townie twang .
    I know the kind of town that you are talkin about as i come from the same sort of one, but i do think it sounds ridiculous when i hear someone who has been away for a short time in Australia, U.S or England etc come back home talking in a hybrid accent, that really makes me cringe


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I know the kind of town that you are talkin about as i come from the same sort of one, but i do think it sounds ridiculous when i hear someone who has been away for a short time in Australia, U.S or England etc come back home talking in a hybrid accent, that really makes me cringe

    Yeah me too, jesus that wrecks my head but I would still always keep it to myself. When I said I lived in London, I think some people may have gotten the wring idea. I live in a shoe box apartment sharing with somebody, I make very little money, and I wear average priced clothes. In fact most of these guys who give me grief are wearing far more expensive clothes than me. I dress like your average music type person and have always been this way long before I ever left the town.

    I am not trying to get attention by wearing certain clothes that are "alternative" or what ever but this is just my style and I like it. Yes I can definitely be accused of wanting to look different from the mainstream fashion of people in my town but I don't think that makes me an arse hole or anything. I mean I was always in to music and films growing up and my role models are different from somebody who grew up as a football fanatic. The point I was making is that many people in my home town are simply narrow minded begrudging ass holes that can't even accept that somebody dresses differently.

    To them I am some gay boy trying to get attention, and I have some nerve wearing skinny jeans or what ever in the town. There is this "everybody has to be macho" type vibe around and anybody who looks a bit 'soft' is gonna hear about it! Jesus I see the same idiots with their stupid shaved heads with a little left on top, silver neck chain, and eye brow piercing thinking they are the ****. The ironic thing is well people like me are being called gay boys or what ever I am still doing better with girls than these mopes. Not trying to sound arrogant or anything but its true, jesus it is not hard to better than these guys the way they look and carry on.

    People who think I am refering to everybody who dresses a certain way are like this are wrong. I am not saying that, plenty of my good friends dress a bit 'sham like' or what ever but they are great people who still have an open mind to others appearances and while they may not be caught dead wearing those clothes, they do not reticule others for doing so. It is just the lads who are part of groups who are always trying to show off to the other lads, its pretty much school yard mentality that has never died.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭Denerick


    fifthfify wrote: »
    Yeah me too, jesus that wrecks my head but I would still always keep it to myself. When I said I lived in London, I think some people may have gotten the wring idea. I live in a shoe box apartment sharing with somebody, I make very little money, and I wear average priced clothes. In fact most of these guys who give me grief are wearing far more expensive clothes than me. I dress like your average music type person and have always been this way long before I ever left the town.

    I am not trying to get attention by wearing certain clothes that are "alternative" or what ever but this is just my style and I like it. Yes I can definitely be accused of wanting to look different from the mainstream fashion of people in my town but I don't think that makes me an arse hole or anything. I mean I was always in to music and films growing up and my role models are different from somebody who grew up as a football fanatic. The point I was making is that many people in my home town are simply narrow minded begrudging ass holes that can't even accept that somebody dresses differently.

    To them I am some gay boy trying to get attention, and I have some nerve wearing skinny jeans or what ever in the town. There is this "everybody has to be macho" type vibe around and anybody who looks a bit 'soft' is gonna hear about it! Jesus I see the same idiots with their stupid shaved heads with a little left on top, silver neck chain, and eye brow piercing thinking they are the ****. The ironic thing is well people like me are being called gay boys or what ever I am still doing better with girls than these mopes. Not trying to sound arrogant or anything but its true, jesus it is not hard to better than these guys the way they look and carry on.

    People who think I am refering to everybody who dresses a certain way are like this are wrong. I am not saying that, plenty of my good friends dress a bit 'sham like' or what ever but they are great people who still have an open mind to others appearances and while they may not be caught dead wearing those clothes, they do not reticule others for doing so. It is just the lads who are part of groups who are always trying to show off to the other lads, its pretty much school yard mentality that has never died.

    Are you a Duffy from the Co. Monaghan by any chance?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,753 ✭✭✭fitz0


    Denerick wrote: »
    Co. Monaghan by any chance?

    Monaghan struck me as soon as I saw this thread! But I suppose its only because this mentality exists everywhere.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭Denerick


    fitz0 wrote: »
    Monaghan struck me as soon as I saw this thread! But I suppose its only because this mentality exists everywhere.

    The words townie slang and sham stick in my mind. I'm half sure I know this guy...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Denerick wrote: »
    The words townie slang and sham stick in my mind. I'm half sure I know this guy...

    Lol, no but this country being so tiny I would not be surprised if you knew me. I didn't want to mention my town name in case people thought I was putting it down but I am from Oranmore in Galway. Monaghan, Mayo, Waterford, etc I think you will find the term 'townie', and 'sham' used a fair bit. Lol, or Mayo would be more 'buck' I guess.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Moomoo1


    Robbie444 wrote: »
    The problem with some academics is they base their ideologies on research and literature published rather than their own life experience.

    many social scientists do actually go and live with the people they study, e.g. I once met this American social scientist who lived for years in Latin America (and I mean lived among the local people, not among expats). As a result, he was one of the most left-wing people I've ever met.

    @OP: small-town people are narrow-minded because they don't know any different, because their range of life experiences is smaller. Just be grateful you are not one of them.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,753 ✭✭✭fitz0


    Denerick wrote: »
    sham

    lol there's a word I haven't heard since school! Plus Monaghan does seem to be slightly hostile to hipsters/alternatives, at least thats my impression of the last few weekends Ive spent here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    fitz0 wrote: »
    lol there's a word I haven't heard since school! Plus Monaghan does seem to be slightly hostile to hipsters/alternatives, at least thats my impression of the last few weekends Ive spent here.

    If you think about it, most places in Ireland are. Then again the same can be probably be said for many parts of England and America. Although I think Ireland is always a bit behind catching up on scene's than other countries in Europe. And when this country does take to something, it explodes all over the place and everybody seems to follow suite. Just the way it is being a small country. I remember about 2 years ago a friend telling me that every young person in Dublin will be wearing Nike dunks shoes in about 1 year as they are really popular in England and America. I had never seeing them in a shop in Dublin before but now you see them every colour of the rainbow in every single shoe shop in Dublin. Next time you are in the city, look around at how many people wear them.

    If something comes in to vogue in this country it is everywhere! ugg boots are another example, and not to mention the huge popularity in Abercrombe brand clothes after shows like the OC, and the hills came on the TV a few years ago. Dont really know what I am getting at here, just think we are sort of sheep in this country in that we really follow what ever trends are passed our way.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭Denerick


    fifthfify wrote: »
    If you think about it, most places in Ireland are. Then again the same can be probably be said for many parts of England and America. Although I think Ireland is always a bit behind catching up on scene's than other countries in Europe. And when this country does take to something, it explodes all over the place and everybody seems to follow suite. Just the way it is being a small country. I remember about 2 years ago a friend telling me that every young person in Dublin will be wearing Nike dunks shoes in about 1 year as they are really popular in England and America. I had never seeing them in a shop in Dublin before but now you see them every colour of the rainbow in every single shoe shop in Dublin. Next time you are in the city, look around at how many people wear them.

    If something comes in to vogue in this country it is everywhere! ugg boots are another example, and not to mention the huge popularity in Abercrombe brand clothes after shows like the OC, and the hills came on the TV a few years ago. Dont really know what I am getting at here, just think we are sort of sheep in this country in that we really follow what ever trends are passed our way.

    Fashionista's are arguably worse though. What is worse than constantly trying to keep ahead of fashion? I'd imagine its quite exhausting. I wear the same type of clothes all the time, and have done since I was about 16. No-one can ever accuse me of inconsistency :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Denerick wrote: »
    Fashionista's are arguably worse though. What is worse than constantly trying to keep ahead of fashion? I'd imagine its quite exhausting. I wear the same type of clothes all the time, and have done since I was about 16. No-one can ever accuse me of inconsistency :)

    lol, Fashionista is an awfully "with it" word for somebody who claims to take little interest in their fashion appearance to have in their vocabulary. Maybe you are more hip than you give yourself credit for!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,214 ✭✭✭wylo


    OP, at the end of the day, you'll have to accept that people generalize out of ignorance and lack of experience.

    Heavy metallers think anyone into dance music doesnt have a clue about music.

    'Fashionistas' think they feel better in themselves than the guy moping down the street with a holey jumper too big for him and 12 year old jeans that dont fit him.

    Art and music lovers think some lad sitting at a pub with a ManU jersey screaming at the telly watching a match think that he has no depth in his personality.

    Dublin people consider you a culchie if you have an accent anywhere from the west of Ireland.

    Small town people that dress almost like pikeys think that the alternative dresser is a gay boy.

    It goes on and on. Theres nothing you can do to change it, only be grateful that your not stuck with these people day in day out in your lifetime.


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