Dublin city's oldest restaurant?

1968

I'm trying to write an article for my blog (www.comeheretome.wordpress.com) on Dublin's oldest restaurants and in the process am trying to work out what is the oldest. Beaufield Mews in Stillorgan seems to be acknowledged as Dublin's oldest restaurant (established 1950) that is still in the same premises.

But what about the city centre?

From talking to some of my family over Christmas Day, here are some contenders:

+ The Unicorn, 12B Merrion Court (Originally established in 1939 at 11 Merrion Row, it moved to Merrion Court in the early 1960s.)

+ The Trocadero, 4 St. Andrew's Street (Established 1956)

+ Nicos, 53 Dame Street (Established 1964)

+ The Lord Edward, 23 Christchurch Place (Established 1969)

+ Captain America's, 44 Grafton Street (Established 1971)

+ The Lobster Pot, 9 Ballsbridge Terrace (Established 1980)

+ The Bad Ass Cafe, 9 - 10 Crown Alley (Established 1983)

+ Da Vincenzo's, 133 Upper Leeson Street (Established 1988)

+ The Elephant and Castle, 18 Temple Bar (Established 1989)

[Other honorable mentions outside the city include the Independent Pizza Company on 28 Lwr. Drumcondra Rd. (Established 1983)]

kenco

1968 wrote: »

I'm trying to write an article for my blog (www.comeheretome.wordpress.com) on Dublin's oldest restaurants and in the process am trying to work out what is the oldest. Beaufield Mews in Stillorgan seems to be acknowledged as Dublin's oldest restaurant (established 1950) that is still in the same premises.

But what about the city centre?

From talking to some of my family over Christmas Day, here are some contenders:

+ The Unicorn, 12B Merrion Court (Originally established in 1939 at 11 Merrion Row, it moved to Merrion Court in the early 1960s.)

+ The Trocadero, 4 St. Andrew's Street (Established 1956)

+ Nicos, 53 Dame Street (Established 1964)

+ The Lord Edward, 23 Christchurch Place (Established 1969)

+ Captain America's, 44 Grafton Street (Established 1971)

+ The Lobster Pot, 9 Ballsbridge Terrace (Established 1980)

+ The Bad Ass Cafe, 9 - 10 Crown Alley (Established 1983)

+ Da Vincenzo's, 133 Upper Leeson Street (Established 1988)

+ The Elephant and Castle, 18 Temple Bar (Established 1989)

[Other honorable mentions outside the city include the Independent Pizza Company on 28 Lwr. Drumcondra Rd. (Established 1983)]

Interesting list here. I know Nicos is around donkeys years as I used to go there in the early 90s. What really confirmed it for me was that my folks used to go there when they were younger as it was 'established'! Have to sayI thought it was the 50's when it started up.

How long has Dobbins been around for? Only other ones I can think of might be the Chinese Szechuan in Stillorgan, The Old Dubliner and maybe Sagar on Harcourt St??

1968

kenco wrote: »

Interesting list here. I know Nicos is around donkeys years as I used to go there in the early 90s. What really confirmed it for me was that my folks used to go there when they were younger as it was 'established'! Have to sayI thought it was the 50's when it started up.

How long has Dobbins been around for? Only other ones I can think of might be the Chinese Szechuan in Stillorgan, The Old Dubliner and maybe Sagar on Harcourt St??

I was going to mention the China Sichuan. It was based at 4 Lower Kilmacud Road from 1986 till 2008 when it moved to the Sandyford Industrial Estate. It has the same owners but some of the staff/chefs didn't follow and set up Gongs chinese restaurant and take away opposite the Stillorgan Shopping Centre.

I think the the Old Dublin restaurant on Francis Street closed in the early 2000s? Could be mistaken.

Saagar on Harcourt Street has 'only' been running since 1992.

Wishbone Ash

Do restaurants in hotels count? I'm sure there has been a restaurant in the Shelbourne since it opened in the 19th century.

1968

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

Do restaurants in hotels count? I'm sure there has been a restaurant in the Shelbourne since it opened in the 19th century.

In my mind, the restaurant has to be neither in a hotel nor also act as a pub.

Wishbone Ash

1968 wrote: »

nor also act as a pub.

Isn't the Lord Edward a pub?

copacetic

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

Isn't the Lord Edward a pub?

think it has always been seperate though? it has it's own door at least...

1968

copacetic wrote: »

think it has always been seperate though? it has it's own door at least...

Exactly. I'd argue it's pretty separate.

It has its own floor, staff, different opening hours etc..

tony 2 tone

The Bad Ass Cafe in Temple Bar been around since 1983 according to their website.

madnesspersues

I'd have expected there to be older restaurants in this fine city. Just illustrates how tough the business is?:rolleyes:

hick

well if you're not counting the pub rule above then it has to be
The Brazen head est 1198

spurious

Flanagan's is there a good while.

1968

tony 2 tone wrote: »

The Bad Ass Cafe in Temple Bar been around since 1983 according to their website.

Aye. Check OP.

Linku

Captain Americas on Grafton St has been there since 1971.

I'm shocked there aren't many older restaurants, is 1950 the best we can do?

1968

spurious wrote: »

Flanagan's is there a good while.

Completely forgot about Flanagan's.

Thanks for that.

It was established in 1980.

JupiterKid

The King Sitric in Howth was established in 1971. The Radjoot Tandoori on Clarendon Street dates back to the mid 1970s and is Dublin's (and Ireland's) oldest Indian restaurant.

Restaurants don't seem to have a particularly long shelf life in Ireland - one factor being that eating out has really only taken off here in the past 20/30 years or so and another that establishments don't often seem to outlive their head chefs.

Is Ernie's in Donnybrook still going? It dates to the 1970s I think.

spurious

There are also restaurant sites which have been in continuous use, such as where the 101 Talbot is, previously The American Connection.
I think I went there for a birthday in the late 70s early 80s.

amen

does burdocks count?

1968

JupiterKid wrote: »

The King Sitric in Howth was established in 1971. The Radjoot Tandoori on Clarendon Street dates back to the mid 1970s and is Dublin's (and Ireland's) oldest Indian restaurant.

Restaurants don't seem to have a particularly long shelf life in Ireland - one factor being that eating out has really only taken off here in the past 20/30 years or so and another that establishments don't often seem to outlive their head chefs.

Is Ernie's in Donnybrook still going? It dates to the 1970s I think.

The 'Georgina Cambell's Ireland: The Dublin Guide' claims that The Radjoot Tandoori was established in 1984. While this website (http://traveldk.com/dublin/dk/rajdoot-tandoori) says it goes back to 1966.

Ernies was established in 1984. It was taken over by new management in 2006 and is now called 'Poulots of Donnybrook'.

1968

spurious wrote: »

There are also restaurant sites which have been in continuous use, such as where the 101 Talbot is, previously The American Connection.
I think I went there for a birthday in the late 70s early 80s.

That's interesting.

101 Talbot (1991 - Present)
The American Connection (1977* - 1991)

*Earliest reference I can find in The Irish Times archive.

Edit: A 1991 article tells us that there was a short lifed 'Cafe California' that existed after The American Connection and before the 101 Talbot.

BraziliaNZ

i was always sure the Trocadero was the oldest, I worked there for a few years in the 90s. Great place all the same.

Nabber

Beaufield Mews, Stillorgan.

Went past that before. They boast about being the oldest 1950

lightening

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

i was always sure the Trocadero was the oldest

I have heard this too. Not sure where.

sushisushi

I have a copy of the Irish Free State Handbook from 1932, which has an advertisement section in the back. I don't recognise any current restaurants in it, although there are a number of hotel restaurants mentioned, like Wynn's, the Gresham and Jury's on College Green.

Along with Hamilton Long's, Dixon Hempenstall, Guiney's, Denny's sausages and Rathborne's candles it mentions the following:
- Flynn's Restaurant and Bar, 28 Fleet Street
- Mitchell's of 9, 10 and 11 Grafton Street, open from 1805
- The Crock of Gold Handweavers and Tea Rooms, 18 Dawson Street
although I don't know if any of these are still restaurants!

admiralofthefleet

the gigs place on richmond street south opened in 1970

monkeyfudge

1968 wrote: »

The 'Georgina Cambell's Ireland: The Dublin Guide' claims that The Radjoot Tandoori was established in 1984. While this website (http://traveldk.com/dublin/dk/rajdoot-tandoori) says it goes back to 1966.

Either way it doesn't exist anymore. Closed a few years back.

Greatly missed though. Was a fantastic restaurant.

1968

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

the gigs place on richmond street south opened in 1970

It's been closed for a few years (?) but in the last few months they've put up this horrible red hoarding and the usual array of MCD posters etc..

admiralofthefleet

1968 wrote: »

It's been closed for a few years (?) but in the last few months they've put up this horrible red hoarding and the usual array of MCD posters etc..

i had breakfast there last night

Blackjack

According to this "Beaufield Mews is Dublin's oldest restaurant".

Zen Restaurant in Rathmines was the first Chinese Restaurant in Ireland, AFAIK. Seems to claim it in one of the articles they have hanging up in their reception area.

1968

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

i had breakfast there last night

Must be getting the place mixed up with somewhere else.

GlasnevinRed

I'd imagine The Washerwoman Restaurant in Glasnevin has been there a while. Can't find info on the site though other than saying it was named after a factory built in the 1700s.

Edit: Way off. 1996 :P

DublinWriter

How about the Manhattan cafe?

It's been around as a nite-time greasy spoon since the early 60's.

copacetic

DublinWriter wrote: »

How about the Manhattan cafe?

It's been around as a nite-time greasy spoon since the early 60's.

Not any more though, been gone a couple of years?

europhile

Is Sheries still on Abbey Street?

spurious

europhile wrote: »

Is Sheries still on Abbey Street?

Yes, though under different management who did the unthinkable and ripped out what was the endearing thing about Sherie's, it's fake-o American diner style, complete with counter.

Grantosol

Wonder if anyone has any memories of eating at the Skylon Hotel in Glasnevin in the seventies? I know it opened in 1970, and I know there was a restaurant there.

I'm writing a book at the moment - and it would be very useful to know the name of the restaurant, really any detail that you can recall

Many thanks

G.

Alan_P

If you're willing to count a chipper with tables you can sit at, Fusciardi's off Lower Liffey Street claims to have been open since 1937.

The Scientician

Alan_P wrote: »

If you're willing to count a chipper with tables you can sit at, Fusciardi's off Lower Liffey Street claims to have been open since 1937.

I was gonna say there must be some ancient enough chippers around, Beshoff claim to be on the go since 1913 but I suppose have had loads of premises changes?

FloatingVoter

The Lord Edward is a pub (ground floor) and restaurant (same ownership, different staff) on the 2nd floor. As for age - its been a fish speciality restaurant (in the 5 star price league) since the late 60s. Great pub, good restaurant.