Cork - All-Ireland Hurling/Football Champions 2010

Orizio

Bookmark this mother****ers.

Blackjack

Have they not got a strike to go through first?

soccymonster

Funny joke Orizio..
I actually lol'ed!

UpTheSlashers

I actually do want to bookmark this

Orizio

UpTheSlashers wrote: »

I actually do want to bookmark this

Do, I'll make sure to up this next Christmas and proceed to wag my finger at all the doubters.

Orizio

Blackjack wrote: »

Have they not got a strike to go through first?

A truly unique and one of a kind joke my good sir, maybe you should patent it in case someone else uses it?

Blackjack

Orizio wrote: »

A truly unique and one of a kind joke my good sir, maybe you should patent it in case someone else uses it?

Your OP was better, I'll grant you.

UpTheSlashers

Orizio wrote: »

Do, I'll make sure to up this next Christmas and proceed to wag my finger at all the doubters.

talk to ya then, G'luck

grenache

Orizio, posting while drunk is not recommended. Even at that, i'm surprised at you, as even a totally ossified Cork man, would realise that the only senior silverware being brought home to Cork next year will be in camogie or ladies football

Browney7

Orizio have you overdosed on happy pills again??:p

Such optimism from your good self his highly refreshing if not mildly disturbing.

Methinks Orizio's account has been hacked;)

Daysha

Orizio you're mistaken, April 1st isn't for another 4 months!

deisedude

Orizio i'm going to have to revoke my vote for you for best poster now.

who the fug

Can we lose the munster to the skin eaters this time,

Orizio

Lads lads lads (*shakes head pompously*), shall I analyse the coming year for you chaps in a truly objective and unbiased manner as possible?

Limerick Hurling is in disarray. Clare Hurling is in disarray. Waterford's lot are full of geriatrics. Kilkenny Hurling is going backwards at a rate of knots, and the 5 in a row is a historical impossibility. Really, the only two threats to our march to triumph are Galway and Tipperary, both of whom we would have beaten last year if Timmy Mac and Aisake were a little sharper in front of goal. And REMEMBER - this is the first time in three years that we will have a complete and full preperation from January onwards. Throw in the 6' 7" behemoth we have added and the host of young talent Denis Walsh is poised to bring into the squad, and we are certs.

As for the footballers, not only did we have the strongest squad in the country last year, our only genuine competitiors Kerry have gotten weaker while we have gotten stronger. How can anyway think we WON'T win is the real question.

Final piece of advice fellows, go to the bookies, you'll thank me come September.

DDC1990

Hurling- Just no... not a hope.
Football- Quite possibly... Avoid Kerry in Croker and ye should do it. If ye meet Kerry before the AI final, ye could break the Kerry duck, but ye would prob end up loosing in the next game, as ye'd feel like ye had played the final. Same if Kerry beat Tyrone this year.

Marse

Good chance in the football, but you'll not win a hurling AI this year, I'm full sure of that.

grenache

You might do it in the football, but mark my words, you'll have to go through the back door to get to the final. Your luck will finally run out when you play us in the Munster Final

panda100

Orizo definately gets my vote for most annoying poster of the year after this thread! Hes as smug as the guy on the Meteor ad.
I reckon the Cork footballers will have to go through the back door this year after we hammer you in Limerick!

Diabhal Beag

More chance of the entire panel coming out of the closet than ye have of doing the double :pac:

Ye have a chance in football though

Mr. Incognito

ah, I see that Cork's blind optimism is not lost having gotten it handed to them by Kerry in Croker AGAIN.

Cork are only behind Mayo when it comes to choking. Kerry will be going for their seventh All Ireland final in a row. Cork will get trampled underfoot again on the way.

manster

Avoid Kerry in Choker...I mean Croker...the old ones are still the best. It's actually refreshing to see Orizio building Cork up for a change. New mental tactics for this yeaR all they need now are 15 decent footballers!

blackbelt

manster wrote: »

Avoid Kerry in Choker...I mean Croker...the old ones are still the best. It's actually refreshing to see Orizio building Cork up for a change. New mental tactics for this yeaR all they need now are 15 decent footballers!

Wouldn't be so quick to joke about the Cork footballers who have managed to beat Tyrone in Croke Park this decade at the first time of asking while Kerry haven't managed this feat after 3 attempts.Thats not a retort by the way.

Something tells me Cork won't be going away anytime soon and they sure have decent footballers who are capable of beating top teams like Tyrone and Kerry.The experience of Kerry playing on the big day was the huge factor plus Cork choking in front of the posts.

However it is very strange that Orizio is building them up.Cork hurlers had their day in the sun but I feel they wouldn't be able to match Galway,Waterford,Tipp or Kilkenny next year.They may even get knocked out by Dublin which wouldn't be so much of a shock but a good scalp for Dublin.

Cork footballers will only have Tyrone and Kerry to worry about should Kerry be in top form.With Walsh and Kennelly gone and Daragh O Se getting on,things could change but Kerry have so much talent in Marc and Tomas O Se plus Paul Galvin,Kieran Donaghy,Gooch,Declan and Darren O Sullivan that they will still be as hard to beat as ever.

Orizio

blackbelt wrote: »

However it is very strange that Orizio is building them up.Cork hurlers had their day in the sun but I feel they wouldn't be able to match Galway,Waterford,Tipp or Kilkenny next year.They may even get knocked out by Dublin which wouldn't be so much of a shock but a good scalp for Dublin.

Cork Hurling has had it's 'day in the sun' for about 100+ years now. We are a permanent fixture, Hurling is uncomplete without us, similiar to the way Football isn't complete without Kerry. Watch what happens with a new manager, some new players and, most importantly, a trouble free preperation does to us. Even when we are down, we are up around the top.

Your analysis of Cork Football is spot on however. Kerry won't be a problem after losing so many of their best players (while we have actually improved our squad), and we beat Tyrone comprehensively last year, so it seems fair enough to say we are favourites.

blackbelt

Orizio wrote: »

Cork Hurling has had it's 'day in the sun' for about 100+ years now. We are a permanent fixture, Hurling is uncomplete without us, similiar to the way Football isn't complete without Kerry. Watch what happens with a new manager, some new players and, most importantly, a trouble free preperation does to us. Even when we are down, we are up around the top.

Your analysis of Cork Football is spot on however. Kerry won't be a problem after losing so many of their best players (while we have actually improved our squad), and we beat Tyrone comprehensively last year, so it seems fair enough to say we are favourites.

Now now,you know I am only buttering you up to join the blues brigade.Sure anyway,it is in your best interests with the hookers and the free coke.:)

DeepBlue

Browney7 wrote: »

Methinks Orizio's account has been hacked;)

Orizio wrote: »

As for the footballers, not only did we have the strongest squad in the country last year, our only genuine competitiors Kerry have gotten weaker while we have gotten stronger. How can anyway think we WON'T win is the real question.

Yep, Orizio's account has definitely been hacked. Could a mod/admin lock Orizio's account until he can prove he's the real Orizio.
He can do this simply by posting prior to any Cork match about how they haven't a hope and will be lucky to lose by only 15 points and how their opponents are the greatest football/hurling team ever to grace a GAA pitch.

blackbelt wrote: »

Wouldn't be so quick to joke about the Cork footballers who have managed to beat Tyrone in Croke Park this decade at the first time of asking while Kerry haven't managed this feat after 3 attempts.Thats not a retort by the way.

Something tells me Cork won't be going away anytime soon and they sure have decent footballers who are capable of beating top teams like Tyrone and Kerry.The experience of Kerry playing on the big day was the huge factor plus Cork choking in front of the posts.

Your retort is weakened by your follow on point. Try to be consistent when you have to indulge your need to bash Kerry :rolleyes:.

blackbelt

DeepBlue wrote: »

Your retort is weakened by your follow on point. Try to be consistent when you have to indulge your need to bash Kerry :rolleyes:.

Haha I think somebody is getting very defensive here.I re-read my follow on point and I can't see where you are coming from.Where in the second paragraph did I criticise Kerry?Maybe you are just upset by the facts?

DeepBlue

You shouldn't confuse your opinion with fact. We're all entitled to our opinions but we're not entitled to call them facts.
Btw I'd suggest a Kerry supporter has little to be defensive about with regards to their GAA record. That doesn't stop you taking a pop at Kerry whenever you can - even in a thread where the subject is Cork's hurling and football prospects for 2010.

Although it might be a tad short-sighted for a Dublin supporter to toss the choker tag at Cork when their own county is far more adept at choking in Croke Park.

blackbelt

DeepBlue wrote: »

You shouldn't confuse your opinion with fact. We're all entitled to our opinions but we're not entitled to call them facts.
Btw I'd suggest a Kerry supporter has little to be defensive about with regards to their GAA record. That doesn't stop you taking a pop at Kerry whenever you can - even in a thread where the subject is Cork's hurling and football prospects for 2010.

Although it might be a tad short-sighted for a Dublin supporter to toss the choker tag at Cork when their own county is far more adept at choking in Croke Park.

Oh the anti-Kerry line.This gets quite boring so I'll be frank with you.It has to be pointed out to a Kerry fan who thinks that Cork don't have 15 decent footballers that they beat Tyrone,a team that All Ireland Champions Kerry didn't do 3 times last decade.To me thats not taking a pop at Kerry but disproving the view that Cork don't have 15 decent footballers.

As far as bringing Dublin into this is concerned,does my location or the fact that I am a Dublin fan not entitle me to an opinion on the matter because Dublin choked again?Thats akin to someone saying Kerry fans shouldn't comment on hurling because they are useless at it compared to their neighbours in Munster or Kilkenny.Cork forwards wasted so many chances that could have won them the game.Their forwards didn't produce the scoring ability that beat Tyrone.Thats my opinion,other counties have choked and choked much worse at earlier stages of the championship but their fans can lable a particular team chokers.Roscommon fans could call Dublin bottlers and vice versa.Its all valid opinion drawn from facts.

manster

Might I suggest that Dublin or Kildare or even Kerry would have beaten Tyrone in this year's semi-final. Tyrone were simply not at the races that day and were 'out-tyroned' by Cork. Also Cork beat them with 14 men (when did Tyrone last lose a game against 14 men in Croke Park). Add the subsequent post match revelations about Harte & Cavanagh...Tyrone had a bad day at the office.

I reiterate my opinion about Cork not having 15 decent footballers and go further they have even less on the bench. Evidence in the final being that Cork had no decent players to bring on that could change the match when the going got tough their subs had zero impact.

What they do have are 5 decent players - Graham Canty, Michael Shields and John Miskella, Pearse O’Neil & Daniel Goulding - all of whom justly received all-stars (& would get onto any Leinster champioship winning team in the country;)).

Fact: Cork players physically dominate opposing players - this should not be confused with being considered a good footballer.

Have a look at the Cork team on that final day & tell me these are 15 decent footballers

Cork: A Quirke; K O’Connor, M Shields, A Lynch; J Miskella, G Canty, N O’Leary; A O’Connor, N Murphy; P Kerrigan, P O’Neill, P Kelly (0-1); D Goulding (0-4, 0-2f), C O’Neill (1-1), D O’Connor (0-3, 0-3f).

Subs: D Kavanagh for A Lynch ’58, J Masters for D Goulding ’63, M Cussen for A O’Connor

homerjay2005

to be honest, if Cork cant win it (Sam) this year, they never will.

yayamark

If they dont win it this year they could become the next Mayo

Gingy

Orizio wrote: »

Lads lads lads (*shakes head pompously*), shall I analyse the coming year for you chaps in a truly objective and unbiased manner as possible?

Limerick Hurling is in disarray. Clare Hurling is in disarray. Waterford's lot are full of geriatrics. Kilkenny Hurling is going backwards at a rate of knots, and the 5 in a row is a historical impossibility. Really, the only two threats to our march to triumph are Galway and Tipperary, both of whom we would have beaten last year if Timmy Mac and Aisake were a little sharper in front of goal. And REMEMBER - this is the first time in three years that we will have a complete and full preperation from January onwards. Throw in the 6' 7" behemoth we have added and the host of young talent Denis Walsh is poised to bring into the squad, and we are certs.

As for the footballers, not only did we have the strongest squad in the country last year, our only genuine competitiors Kerry have gotten weaker while we have gotten stronger. How can anyway think we WON'T win is the real question.

Final piece of advice fellows, go to the bookies, you'll thank me come September.

You have a fairly decent shout in the football this year, but not a hope in the hurling.

There's not enough young talent coming through, exemplified by Cork's lack of minor/U21 success recently. No minor since Tomás O'Leary in 01 and U21 since 98. There are some of the current Cork panel who would possibly have retired if there was any sort of pressure on them.

And as for the assumptions that Kilkenny are going backwards, where has this come from? They'll be back next year as strong as ever.