Tommy Dreamer to leave WWE?

D2D

Just seen this in the "today wrestling news" thread

Credit to Podge2k7

PWInsider.com is reporting that Tommy Dreamer has asked for his WWE release and the word backstage is that he will be leaving the company. Dreamer was at the Smackdown/ECW tapings in Orlando last night, and although his release from WWE has not been confirmed at this time, all indications are that he has asked for the release and is waiting for it to be granted by WWE.

To add to this, Mickie James posted this on her Twitter:

"Just got back from a wonderful dinner w my 2nd fam! Saying farewell 2 a man who hs been a leader & inspiration 2 me since my ecw tryout 00" Who has given me the best advice In countless situations. Whom I could never repay but will always respect and love from the bottom of my Heart. There is but 1 Tommy Dreamer aka dream machine! You've paved the way for many. We all are grateful! I love you. Thank you! Muah!"

So, what'd ye think?? Should he retire or could Tommy go to TNA??

sky88

its sad that hes leaving always liked tommy i think he should only go to tna if its a behind the scenes role i think his time for wrestling is over

currythis

I've always liked Tommy but he's never been over during his WWE run so wont miss him too much on-screen,but if he's as influential backstage as Mickie says then I'm sure he'll be missed in that way

If he goes to TNA im 98% sure that they'll use him on TV

Noelisgod

Tommy Dreamer is a fat non-entity wrestler whose best days were long long ago - the only thing this guy ever did well was get smashed in the face with foreign objects - no one will miss this guy.

Noelisgod

[QUOTE=If he goes to TNA im 98% sure that they'll use him on TV[/QUOTE]

If he goes to TNA i'm 100% sure it will be to clean the toilets

D2D

Noelisgod wrote: »

Tommy Dreamer is a fat non-entity wrestler whose best days were long long ago - the only thing this guy ever did well was get smashed in the face with foreign objects - no one will miss this guy.

I completly disagree with you.

I have nothing but respect for Tommy. He changed the face of ECW and hardcore wrestling. He mightn't have been the most talented wrestler but he was , and still is, over with the fans.

D2D

Noelisgod wrote: »

If he goes to TNA i'm 100% sure it will be to clean the toilets

Nope, he'll be used well if he goes to TNA but I think he'll go behind-the-scenes with WWE or just retire

Bounty Hunter

Dare_2_defy wrote: »

Nope, he'll be used well if he goes to TNA but I think he'll go behind-the-scenes with WWE or just retire

from that bit by Mickie it sounds like he is leaving the WWE. Personally after ECW stopped being ECW (yeah i know it stopped a long tome ago before anyone says so) I thought he would just be a road agent but now i dunno what is next, if anything, for Tommy Dreamer.

Noelisgod

Dare_2_defy wrote: »

I completly disagree with you.

I have nothing but respect for Tommy. He changed the face of ECW and hardcore wrestling. He mightn't have been the most talented wrestler but he was , and still is, over with the fans.

Being over with fans and being good are two different things and tommy boy is definitely not good.

krudler

Noelisgod wrote: »

Being over with fans and being good are two different things and tommy boy is definitely not good.

Well said, Mikey Whipwreck was hugely over with the ECW fans, didnt mean he wasnt godawful as a wrestler though, anyone who was mega over in ECW seems to have this fanboy love where if the ECW crowd liked them then they must have been good, when most of the roster were terrible workers

TBH i didnt realise Tommy was even still in WWE, i rarely ever watch ECW these days

Penn

Sounds like he's leaving the entire WWE. I presumed once he retired from the ring he'd end up in a backstage role

Red Sleeping Beauty

Dare_2_defy wrote: »

I completly disagree with you.

I have nothing but respect for Tommy. He changed the face of ECW and hardcore wrestling. He mightn't have been the most talented wrestler but he was , and still is, over with the fans.

Yeah but that was then. I can't remember but a few half-decent things or matches he had in WWF/WWE. I think he'd a few of them comedy hardcore matches with Raven a few years ago and there was the two ECW One Night Stand matches. That's about it really. I doubt Vince McMahon would listen to any of the man's ideas so the end result isn't really that different is it?

I loved Tommy's ECW stuff as well by the way. It was awful seeing him drink piss from urinals and eat food off of dirty floors etc.

flahavaj

Noelisgod wrote: »

Being over with fans and being good are two different things and tommy boy is definitely not good.

If he's over with fans he's good at what he does though.

geeky

Sad to see but I figured it was inevitable once they decided to scrap the ECW brand - better to leave on your own terms, I guess, than be 'future endeavoured' in a month or two.

On the subject of dreamer being a decent worker and/or over, my tuppenceworth (having not seen too much original ECW) is that he's capable enough in the ring -not particularly innovative, but not horrible to watch like some still on the roster. He was over with a certain older segment of the crowd but, despite WWE's efforts to push him as a 2D face for the kids, they couldn't really do so in a PG way without amending the hardcore image he'd won initial notoriety for. His recentish title match with Christian didn't seem to please either segment of the crowd. That's no reflection on Dreamer's abilities: he just wasn't the right fit with where WWE are going right now.

He probably has a few more active years of wrestling in him, and enough good ideas to fulfil a backstage role in a promotion where he'll actually have some influence. The 'e' obviously doesn't fit that bill for Dreamer, and I'm not so sure that the Hoganised TNA will either. With ROH now influenced by Cornette (himself no fan of hardcore wrestling) he might be looking for a long time. Of the big three, TNA seems the least worst option.

He'll find work, I'm sure. Hopefully something will crop up that'll give him a chance to stay in the business as a road agent or booker.

JP Liz

I thought he was gone with a while

waltersobchak

Source: The Wrestling Observer Newsletter

As reported earlier, Tommy Dreamer, who re-signed with World Wrestling Entertainment over the summer, asked for his release over the weekend. Regarding his future prospects in the wrestling industry, the former ECW champion "will almost certainly be heading to TNA" according to a reliable source.

As a matter of fact, one WWE source said they expected him to debut on live episode of iMPACT! on January 4, 2010 — although logic would suggest he'd have some sort of no-compete since he asked out of his contract.

Dreamer, whose real name is Thomas James Laughlin, will go down as the last old-school ECW performer to be affiliated with the WWE version of the brand."


Dreamer vs Ravan in TNA perhaps?

D2D

waltersobchak wrote: »

Source: The Wrestling Observer Newsletter

As reported earlier, Tommy Dreamer, who re-signed with World Wrestling Entertainment over the summer, asked for his release over the weekend. Regarding his future prospects in the wrestling industry, the former ECW champion "will almost certainly be heading to TNA" according to a reliable source.

As a matter of fact, one WWE source said they expected him to debut on live episode of iMPACT! on January 4, 2010 — although logic would suggest he'd have some sort of no-compete since he asked out of his contract.

Dreamer, whose real name is Thomas James Laughlin, will go down as the last old-school ECW performer to be affiliated with the WWE version of the brand."


Dreamer vs Ravan in TNA perhaps?

If he asked out off his contract, he had the "no wrestling in 90 days" clause, wouldn't he??

I'd say Dreamer/Raven = Clockwork orange house of fun match.

waltersobchak

Dare_2_defy wrote: »

If he asked out off his contract, he had the "no wrestling in 90 days" clause, wouldn't he??

I'd say Dreamer/Raven = Clockwork orange house of fun match.

Yeah i think the 90 day clause is just when a wrestlers is released by WWE, so Dreamer should be fine.. with MAYBE Dreamer and RVD, Hogan, Hall, X-pac, and whoever else they have lined up, i hope this isnt gonna be a WCW/ECW Invasion of TNA, cause that would be so lame..

D2D

waltersobchak wrote: »

Yeah i think the 90 day clause is just when a wrestlers is released by WWE, so Dreamer should be fine.. with MAYBE Dreamer and RVD, Hogan, Hall, X-pac, and whoever else they have lined up, i hope this isnt gonna be a WCW/ECW Invasion of TNA, cause that would be so lame..

I'm not too sure on the 90 day thing. I heard if somebody wants out for their contract or is fired, the 90 day clause comes in

To Hogan, an ECW/WCW invasion would be a brilliant take on what's already been done before:rolleyes:

waltersobchak

Dare_2_defy wrote: »

I'm not too sure on the 90 day thing. I heard if somebody wants out for their contract or is fired, the 90 day clause comes in

To Hogan, an ECW/WCW invasion would be a brilliant take on what's already been done before:rolleyes:

Yeah thats TNAs style too though..

D2D

waltersobchak wrote: »

Yeah but thats TNAs style though..

I'm really interested to see what TNA will do with Tommy if they get him. Hopefully, they'll use him well.

waltersobchak

Dare_2_defy wrote: »

I'm really interested to see what TNA will do with Tommy if they get him. Hopefully, they'll use him well.

At least he'll be able to work a more hardcore style, and there is a few ECW alumni in TNA, so maybe it could be good to have him re-team with Raven and fued with Team 3D in the short term..

Angron

I like Dreamer, my second favorite ECW original after RVD

dlofnep

I was just watching him on ECW there and was thinking how he was quickly going back to being a jobber after holding the ECW title. I guess he just wanted a title run before he left, and that had every intention of leaving. Was just a coincidence that I searched his name in google news to see if there was any mention of his status, and I saw he left.

He did deserve the title run, on account of the effort he has put into ECW over the years - but he's not a good wrestler, and looks very amateur in his matches. He comes across as clumsy. He should retire from the ring and work backstage, where his talents are probably greater.

Rjd2

dlofnep wrote: »

I was just watching him on ECW there and was thinking how he was quickly going back to being a jobber after holding the ECW title. I guess he just wanted a title run before he left, and that had every intention of leaving. Was just a coincidence that I searched his name in google news to see if there was any mention of his status, and I saw he left.

He did deserve the title run, on account of the effort he has put into ECW over the years - but he's not a good wrestler, and looks very amateur in his matches. He comes across as clumsy. He should retire from the ring and work backstage, where his talents are probably greater.

Nope as a wrestler while he is not Kozlov bad, he is still miles from been good. He is not over a lick with th current WWE crowd, sad that may be, but its true, damn true etc.

I remember when they were in smark central, Philly a few months ago and even they were not interested in him. The reign he got was probably due to his close friendship with Shane as well.

parker kent

Dreamer's back injuries meant he should have retired around 2000, he should not still be wrestling. His movement is severely limited and he was never that good anyway. He had one token title victory in ECW before he lost it to Rhino. He was a symbol for hardcore more than anything in the original. But he was important backstage so maintained a screen presence as a result.

Similarly Vince used him backstage too so he was rewarded with a title run in the WWE ECW. He is good backstage so TNA really need to use him there. Compared with idiots like Russo who have zero knowledge of how to run a wrestling show, build characters etc, he would be a vast improvement.

Tommy Dreamer's Blog

Tommy Dreamer's Blog wrote:

"I need to let everyone know that tomorrow night on ECW on SYFY at 10 o clock eastern, will be the last ECW episode of the decade. I am calling upon all the WWE Universe to start a massive internet campaign. If you have ever watched or watch ECW to tune in tomorrow night. Set your DVRs, tell a friend, send emails, do what you got to do to spread the word. Tommy Dreamer is headed to the IZOD Center in New Jersey. I am going to go to the building that I have seen so many wrestling events as a kid. I am bringing my wrestling boots, because I am going to work. I am going to make the last episode of ECW this decade, Extreme!

Ahh not expecting much myself...Probably a few tin foil trash cans again...

D2D

source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter


Tommy Dreamer is said to be the source of the rumors indicating he's headed to TNA once he's free from World Wrestling Entertainment as those close to him are saying he has been telling them he's Orlando bound. While those within TNA have yet to confirm his claim, it's been made to clear to him that he has a job open for him if he wanted to become an agent.


While specifics of Dreamer's contract are unclear, it's unlikely WWE would release him in order to allow him to join TNA as a wrestler. Even if he was given a full release without a no wrestling in TNA stipulation, he'd likely have a 90-day non-compete.


Meanwhile, it appears Dreamer's farewell show on ECW will be taking place tonight at the Izod Center as he confirmed in a post on WWE's social networking site that he was bringing his gear to work the final ECW show of the decade.

-- On tonight's episode of ECW, Tommy Dreamer fought against Zack Ryder with his career on the line. Unfortunately, he was defeated by the young grappler, meaning that Dreamer had to make good on his vow to leave ECW forever.


Following the match, Dreamer went on a speech thanking the old and the new ECW, and told the WWE Universe they are his family — a family he’ll miss.
"Thank you so much. I love you all so much," he said, shedding a few tears.
With the loss, Dreamer — the last remaining member of Paul Heyman's ECW on the new age roster — left his prized ECW T-shirt in the ring. Amid chants from the ring, Dreamer paused to hug his wife (former ECW performer and Penthouse model Beulah McGillicutty) at ringside and carried his daughters up the ramp as he said goodbye one final time.


Dreamer is legitimately parting ways with World Wrestling Entertainment as he requested his release from the organization last week.