Suno Golf

boksmashoffice

Hi.
Has anyone purchased clubs from the above? I had a scan on their website and their prices seem to good to be true. I am not keen on buying from Ebay as there are too many fakes and as a newbie I think i won't be able to spot a real from a fake.

Woodgate

Link?

stockdam

http://www.sunogolf.com/


I think they are based in China and if so then that tells you everything.

PhilipMarlowe

The "About Us" pages on these websites usually tells you a lot and again this one is no different. We often get asked about similar sites that promise 'too good to be true' prices and the advice is always the same - avoid.

Bluefoam

If you want cheap clubs go for MD golf. The are made in Ireland and get great reviews

aster99

i wonder how playable the clubs actually would be

stockdam

aster99 wrote: »

i wonder how playable the clubs actually would be

Playable.......they'll be close to identical.

aster99

so why not buy them i presume a very ordinary player like myself wouldnt even notice a difference if i played with them

stockdam

It's the same question about buying anything that's fake.

Bluefoam

They aren't fake, just not branded...

G1032

Bluefoam wrote: »

They aren't fake, just not branded...

They are fake. They sell clubs with Callaway/Taylormade/Mizuno etc. branding but they're not actually made by these companies. Fake.

aster99

i suppose what i'm saying is could a golfer of say a handicap of between 10-20 go out and score the same using the fake clubs as he would with the authentic set

f22

aster99 wrote: »

i suppose what i'm saying is could a golfer of say a handicap of between 10-20 go out and score the same using the fake clubs as he would with the authentic set

Might be difficult when the head falls off after a few weeks!

G1032

aster99 wrote: »

i suppose what i'm saying is could a golfer of say a handicap of between 10-20 go out and score the same using the fake clubs as he would with the authentic set

Aster
Check out the link below. A fake club will not preform like the authentic, whether you play off 28 or +3. Stay away from the fakes....

http://www.mygolfspy.com/fake-counterfeit-golf-clubs/

PhilipMarlowe

Anyone feel like buying 100 R9 drivers off them at $107.25ea (€75) and then selling them on ebay for €225 ea?
How can you possible go wrong.
Send seven and a half thousand euros out to "the world's most secure, reliable
and convenient retail and wholesales golf-products online-shopping store" and turn it into €22,500
Anyone? No?

stockdam

A fake may or may not play like the original. It could be almost identical.


However the aim of the fake club manufacturer is to do just enough to fool you.......anything more is a waste of money.


The fake could come from the same foundry where the originals are made.......they can be identical heads. Or they can be somebody's best copy.


So you are paying your money and taking your chances. A fake club will probably be inferiour and may substitute aluminium for titanium. The fake manufacturer may not have the same processes or quality control (poor welding, poor assembly).

The fakes can be identical other than valid serial numbers. But why should they be when they can save more money by doing just enough.

There are loads of fake watches and handbags in the markets in holiday resorts but does anyone really think they are anywhere near the same quality?

jimbling

If you want to by cheap versions of top brand manufacturers go for well made customs rather than fakes.

They're basically companies that take the major manufacturers designs and copy them. Save on all the R&D and marketing.

http://www.pinemeadowgolf.com/ and http://www.gigagolf.com/index.jsp would be two good ones.
I purchased my entire set (Driver/3wood/5wood/3-sw/lw/putter) from gigagolf back in 05 for $450 and was delighted with them.

I only replaced them this year when I started taking golf more seriously. Also have a bit more cash these days.
But honestly, I would still gladly play with those clubs.... never had any problems.

boksmashoffice

I went into a Nevada's Bobs and Mcguirks on 24th and looked at where the clubs and bags are made and guess what CHINA. This has got me thinking that maybe Suno could be real but it would be good to hear from people who have actually purchased from there

ANXIOUS

boksmashoffice wrote: »

I went into a Nevada's Bobs and Mcguirks on 24th and looked at where the clubs and bags are made and guess what CHINA. This has got me thinking that maybe Suno could be real but it would be good to hear from people who have actually purchased from there

I don't think anyone is willing to take a risk to be honest. On the point about the real clubs being made in china as well, that doesn't surprise me. Real and fake club makers still need to pay labour costs it makes sense to produce them in a country that would maximize your profit margin. Ie china.

stockdam

boksmashoffice wrote: »

I went into a Nevada's Bobs and Mcguirks on 24th and looked at where the clubs and bags are made and guess what CHINA. This has got me thinking that maybe Suno could be real but it would be good to hear from people who have actually purchased from there

Well ring Taylormade or Callaway and see what they say.

Or ask Suno for a serial number from the club you are interested in and then contact the original manufacturer.

As I said above, the clubs could even be made in the same foundry but they also could be made elsewhere and made to look very similar but they could be rubbish.

Mister Sifter

I'd imagine alot of designer clothing is made in the far east, just as the fake stuff is. Just because they're made in the same country doesn't mean anything.

I wouldn't touch that site with a barge pole. When i buy something, i want to know for certain that it's the real deal. If that means paying a little more, then so be it.

Myksyk

boksmashoffice wrote: »

This has got me thinking that maybe Suno could be real

Then 'thinking' might be too strong a word for it. :rolleyes:

f22

If you're silly enough to contemplate buying them you deserve everything you get, seems to me you're just trying to find someone here to vindicate your bargain purchase.

If you have a limited budget there are great second hand deals in quality second hand clubs, do yourself a favour and spend your cash wisely.

stockdam

Buying fake is very tempting. However the people who sell fake clubs are the lowest of the low. If they want to make golf clubs then they should make their own brand. However all they have to offer is copies (maybe good maybe bad).....the OEM has put in all the design work and the copiers just try to make money the easy way.

Even if they are good copies then you have to ask yourself if you want to support people who blatantly break the law.

boksmashoffice

stockdam wrote: »

Well ring Taylormade or Callaway and see what they say.

Or ask Suno for a serial number from the club you are interested in and then contact the original manufacturer.

As I said above, the clubs could even be made in the same foundry but they also could be made elsewhere and made to look very similar but they could be rubbish.

I have already emailed the comapnies concerned. I'll put message on forum when I get a reply.
Regards

gcarty

I can guarantee that this site is fake. Go for some of the sites in the UK like online golf or golf store europe which is in Derry, both offer genuine products at a reduced price to what you will see in your local pro-shops.

Woodgate

boksmashoffice wrote: »

I went into a Nevada's Bobs and Mcguirks on 24th and looked at where the clubs and bags are made and guess what CHINA. This has got me thinking that maybe Suno could be real but it would be good to hear from people who have actually purchased from there

It's not April 1st is it??:D:D

boksmashoffice

Woodgate wrote: »

It's not April 1st is it??:D:D

Very Cheeky Woodgate. i think its fair to say its not looking good for Suno. I have ordered my stuff from onlinegolf.

many thanks for the responses

shannon Jakuben

The fact is that they are not strictly speaking counterfeit. The components for both the clones and genuine are often made in the same factory, with the same tooling the same materials and to the same standards. This is done with the full knowledge of, in this instance, PING. This allows the factory to hugely increase the production run, reduce the unit prices to PING, and get more use of out of the tooling. Based on the dealings I've had with Chinese volume manufacturers I would be suprised if an iron head cost PING more than £1.50 fully badged up and delivered.

The upshot of it is that the manufacturers make money because of the volume increase. The 'counterfeiters' make money because they are selling 'branded goods' at a reasonable profit. PING make shed loads of money selling to people who believe in the exclusivity of the brand name. As usual we pay the price for both. The 'counterfeiters' trade with impunity with the full knowledge that PING don't mind, and PING can trade on hollow threats, sob stories of lost profits and stories of shoddy goods - together with an added bonus of some nifty reverse marketing.

I know of only one instance of a real claim by a big manufacturer against a counterfeiter and that involved putters - a different manufacturing strategy altogether because of relatively small production quantities and mind boggling profit margins.

PhilipMarlowe

Nice use of your first post to dig up the dead thread (not quite zombie yet)...
And ping irons being made in the same factory in China and only costing £1.50?
What's with the pound anyway... Chinese work in US Dollars and we work in Euros here
Saw an interesting program the other day while I was housebound on Discovery or some such channel... think it was "How stuff is made" or something similar and they covered Ping irons.
I don't remember all the processes but the amount of handling in the process was mind boggling.. to be honest I was surprised that they actually cost so little in the shops when all the work that goes into making one iron was considered.

There's a video here which shows some of the work (though none of the casting) in their factory in AMERICA - http://vimeo.com/5190444

Anyway, this is not the first time that this thread has been bumped (some other posts deleted). Suffice to say that I'm going to lock it and anyone who knowingly buys stuff from any of these cheaper than cheap pop-up Chinese based websites is an ejit. End of.