Airsoft Grenades - Importation

ironclaw · 15-12-2009 4:59pm #1

Hi Folks,

Quick question for the experienced amongst us. I'm looking for Airsoft Grenades. In particular the Hakkotsu CO2 powered grenade. It comes with different shells etc. What is the legality to get them sent to ones house from within / outside the EU? Shipping will be without the CO2 sparklets obviously.

Many Thanks,

ironclaw

Leftyflip · 15-12-2009 5:02pm

ironclaw wrote: »

Hi Folks,

Quick question for the experienced amongst us. I'm looking for Airsoft Grenades. In particular the Hakkotsu CO2 powered grenade. It comes with different shells etc. What is the legality to get them sent to ones house from within / outside the EU? Shipping will be without the CO2 sparklets obviously.

Many Thanks,

ironclaw

You'd probably get it cheaper here to be honest. Sout East Airsoft stock them and so do a certain other shop but, peh..

ironclaw · 15-12-2009 5:15pm

Leftyflip wrote: »

You'd probably get it cheaper here to be honest. Sout East Airsoft stock them and so do a certain other shop but, peh..

A quick look about and there is about €40 in the difference between France and here

Leftyflip · 15-12-2009 5:19pm

As in they cost €75 in France?

Dread-Lock · 15-12-2009 5:20pm

ironclaw wrote: »

A quick look about and there is about €40 in the difference between France and here

What do you mean €40 in the difference? The grenade is only €35 in South East Airsoft.

ironclaw · 15-12-2009 5:23pm

Dread-Lock wrote: »

What do you mean €40 in the difference? The grenade is only €35 in South East Airsoft.

Its €35 for two from France (All in incl shipping)

Leftyflip · 15-12-2009 5:27pm

ironclaw wrote: »

Its €35 for two from France (All in incl shipping)

Link?

Dread-Lock · 15-12-2009 5:28pm

Fair enough! Sorry I haven't a clue what the legality is after the ban, but if you buy them before you should get them no problem.

Can I have the link to this French website please?

Oh and you can buy the CO2 cartridges but they'll have to be sent by ground post.

ironclaw · 15-12-2009 5:29pm

Leftyflip wrote: »

Link?

I'll see can I find it again, its on eBay. I have no problem buying Irish but I don't want to spend twice as much for the same product.

Leftyflip · 15-12-2009 5:32pm

This it?

ironclaw · 15-12-2009 5:41pm

Dread-Lock wrote: »

Fair enough! Sorry I haven't a clue what the legality is after the ban, but if you buy them before you should get them no problem.

Can I have the link to this French website please?

Oh and you can buy the CO2 cartridges but they'll have to be sent by ground post.

Apparently they are CE Marked so that should be ok I would imagine. For the CO2 I'll buy Irish as I have a shop just down the road. How much is a decent multi pack?

That link, yes, I think that's the one.

I can't find them on South East Airsoft, are they not listed?

Leftyflip · 15-12-2009 5:47pm

Hakkotsu Thunder B
Flashbang Shell & CO2
Frag Shell & CO2

hitman_ · 15-12-2009 5:48pm

ironclaw wrote: »

Apparently they are CE Marked so that should be ok I would imagine. For the CO2 I'll buy Irish as I have a shop just down the road. How much is a decent multi pack?

That link, yes, I think that's the one.

I can't find them on South East Airsoft, are they not listed?

Main Irish Airsoft have 'em in stock + shells/Co2.
http://www.mainirishairsoft.com/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=584
Around 30 odd quids.
You should be able to import as they are classed as toy grenades afaik.
Cheers
Hitman.

//EDIT// SE Airsoft also have 'em as Lefty said.
That new shop in Airside estate, Swords - Strikearms may do them also,
I'm calling over there tomorrow. I'll ask.
http://strikearms.com/index.htm

Leftyflip · 15-12-2009 5:51pm

According to MIA you can use BB's in them too :rolleyes:
Their customer service is so polite*

*Post contains very large amount of sarcasm

Rogue-Trooper · 15-12-2009 5:54pm

Leftyflip wrote: »

This it?

The language is French but the gear comes from Hong Kong so it ain't gonna get here this side of Christmas. Still though, good prices on some stuff.

Not sure I'd take the risk on grenades at customs though, pre or post ban. As the saying goes: ye pays yer money, ye takes yer chances:)

Gatling · 15-12-2009 8:49pm

There's no risk fom the grenades the main concern with the new laws is RIF's
(realistic immitation firearms) to my knowledge there's no mentions of airsoft grenades in any of the new regulations,

as for using bbs in the Thunder bs its not recommended could be classed as hot

johnnytiitlips · 15-12-2009 9:33pm

what about the 40mm grenades?
they must be over a joule?

Leftyflip · 15-12-2009 9:38pm

johnnytiitlips wrote: »

what about the 40mm grenades?
they must be over a joule?

Think of a GBB pistol. They aren't over.

johnnytiitlips · 15-12-2009 9:39pm

firing 120 bbs with a lot of force?

Puding · 15-12-2009 9:44pm

as with everything gas it can go up and down, but the individual bbs in a shower grenade with green gas in are weather is about 200 - 250 fps if your lucky from my experiance

Leftyflip · 15-12-2009 9:45pm

johnnytiitlips wrote: »

firing 120 bbs with a lot of force?

Not a lot of force.

hitman_ · 15-12-2009 9:49pm

johnnytiitlips wrote: »

what about the 40mm grenades?
they must be over a joule?

What makes you think so ??
Think multiple barrels with multiple bb's - the energy divided between them.
afaik this has been covered before.
This thread is supposed to be about grenade importation ??

johnnytiitlips · 15-12-2009 9:51pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1St06afhrQ

ff to 4 minutes,and tell me thats not a lot of force

Leftyflip · 15-12-2009 9:53pm

johnnytiitlips wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1St06afhrQ

ff to 4 minutes,and tell me thats not a lot of force

Meh, from his reaction, it doesn't seem to be as much force as a tri-shot shotty.

johnnytiitlips · 15-12-2009 9:56pm

if you reckon thats under a joule
then each bb spent MUST be at the most 1/120 of a joule

deco nate · 15-12-2009 9:56pm

johnnytiitlips wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1St06afhrQ

ff to 4 minutes,and tell me thats not a lot of force

yank video,higher fps limits

johnnytiitlips · 15-12-2009 9:58pm

hitman_ wrote: »

What makes you think so ??
Think multiple barrels with multiple bb's - the energy divided between them.
afaik this has been covered before.
This thread is supposed to be about grenade importation ??

and my question was about the legality of 40mm grenades:rolleyes:

tonyj_mc · 15-12-2009 9:58pm

could be wrong but as there is no barrell is there no no 1 joule rule?

I'm open to correction on this though.

on topic though my one these nades came in from gunfire.pl no problem, came with DHL or ups was ordering a bit of stuff and they charge a flat shipping fee and g'tee within 5 working days

tonyj_mc · 15-12-2009 9:59pm

Gatling wrote: »

There's no risk fom the grenades the main concern with the new laws is RIF's
(realistic immitation firearms) to my knowledge there's no mentions of airsoft grenades in any of the new regulations,

as for using bbs in the Thunder bs its not recommended could be classed as hot

not to mention it makes the fuse really short

johnnytiitlips · 15-12-2009 10:01pm

tonyj_mc wrote: »

could be wrong but as there is no barrell is there no no 1 joule rule?

what would you call the cylinder shaped object they are fired through?

Leftyflip · 15-12-2009 10:01pm

johnnytiitlips wrote: »

if you reckon thats under a joule
then each bb spent MUST be at the most 1/120 of a joule

It's a Madbull 40mm gas 203, it's under a joule.

deco nate wrote: »

yank video,higher fps limits

Gas grenades are all the same unless the have different valves installed aftermarket, which I don't think exist for 203's, or he's running it on CO2.

tonyj_mc · 15-12-2009 10:02pm

johnnytiitlips wrote: »

what would you call the cylinder shaped object they are fired through?

more like stored in until fired. as i said was open to correction on this

johnnytiitlips · 15-12-2009 10:02pm

if mods see my point as off topic,i will start a new thread

johnnytiitlips · 15-12-2009 10:07pm

Leftyflip wrote: »

he's running it on CO2.

it clearly shows him filling it with green gas.
and it takes him a while for it to fill....

johnnytiitlips · 15-12-2009 10:08pm

imagine a gbb pistol releasing all its gas in one burst

its basically the same theory

Leftyflip · 15-12-2009 10:11pm

johnnytiitlips wrote: »

it clearly shows him filling it with green gas.
and it takes him a while for it to fill....

You neglected to quote the "or" I see...
I only looked at him firing it.

johnnytiitlips wrote: »

imagine a gbb pistol releasing all its gas in one burst
its basically the same theory

Spread between 12 outlets, yes.

tonyj_mc · 15-12-2009 10:14pm

between 12 outlets and then diveded between all the bbs inside each outlet

The Master · 15-12-2009 10:21pm

sorry to close this but some of the "technical" data posted is very flawed

Airsoft 40mm grenades are perfectly legal

Unless we are told otherwise by johnny law

Airsoft Grenades - Importation

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