Now UFC is going against WWE live

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UFC move the date for their PPV to WrestleMania 26 weekend. As well as that, UFC is now going head to head with WWE on Monday, the 11th of January.
Link: http://www.wrestleview.com/news2009/1260806738.php?style=dark

The UFC has opted to change the date of their March 2010 PPV, held in Newark, NJ. Instead of the original date of March 13, it looks like it will be Saturday, March 27, 2010... the night before Wrestlemania 26. The problem for the WWE is that this move could have some viewers buying the UFC PPV instead of Wrestlemania 26, which will lead to a lower buyrate. Another problem for the WWE for the March 27 PPV is that George St. Pierres is set to main event that PPV and he's always drawn very high numbers for the UFC.

On a similar note, the UFC is going to air a Monday night Fight Night Live on SpikeTV on January 11, 2010 which will go head to head with Raw. This UFC event would come one week after the WWE/TNA head to head battle on January 4.

Credit: PWInsider and Steve Fernandes

callaway92

Georges St.Pierre and Dan Hardy will sell...WAR UFC!!!
The amount of shít talking from Hardy will make people want to buy this..I would not be surprised if the UFC done over 750,000 with a GSP title fight..

fatal

Vince may have found his match with the UFC on this one.This will surely make him want to book one of biggest WMs ever.

Rud3Bwoy

fatal wrote: »

Vince may have found his match with the UFC on this one.This will surely make him want to book one of biggest WMs ever.

yep but to be fair,its not like the ppv is on the same day as mania,i am sure mania will do very well.

flahavaj

Any other show and Vince might have a problem. But Mania is fairly bullet proof I think.

D.Q

flahavaj wrote: »

Any other show and Vince might have a problem. But Mania is fairly bullet proof I think.

+ 1

waltersobchak

I wonder will the Mayweather vs. Pacquiao fight take a big hit out out of both WWE/UFC PPVs in March??

D2D

waltersobchak wrote: »

I wonder will the Mayweather vs. Pacquiao fight take a big hit out out of both WWE/UFC PPVs in March??

Good point, March next year is turning onto a great month. Pacquiao/Mayweather; UFC PPV and Mania 26.

Must set my priorities straight (if I have enough money):
1 - Mania 26
2 - Boxing
3 - UFC

waltersobchak

Dare_2_defy wrote: »

Good point, March next year is turning onto a great month. Pacquiao/Mayweather; UFC PPV and Mania 26.

Must set my priorities straight (if I have enough money):
1 - Mania 26
2 - Boxing
3 - UFC

Im very very curious to see what buyrate the boxing will get, smash PPV records most likely, at the end of the day all this competiton will hopefully light a fire under WWE to give us the best Wrestlemania ever.. because that all important million buys wont come so easy

PisteHoff

Dont forget Alice in Wonderland is released in cinemas that time 2! I love u Tim Burton. HA ha seriuosly though u have to ask ur self will i watch Dan Hardy smash GSP to pieces or Mark Calloway beat Micheal Higginbottom....UFC gets my money..
However if Micheal Essien sorry i mean Kofi Kingston is main eventing which i guess he will after he wins the rumble then i may..

D2D

PisteHoff wrote: »

Dont forget Alice in Wonderland is released in cinemas that time 2! I love u Tim Burton. HA ha seriuosly though u have to ask ur self will i watch Dan Hardy smash GSP to pieces or Mark Calloway beat Micheal Higginbottom....UFC gets my money..
However if Micheal Essien sorry i mean Kofi Kingston is main eventing which i guess he will after he wins the rumble then i may..

O yeah, Alice in Wonderland, how could I forget that:D:D;):p

BTW, Why are you using their real names for? and Micheal Essien??

waltersobchak

out of curiousity lads.. isn't the UFCs March PPV meant to be in Dublin??

D2D

waltersobchak wrote: »

out of curiousity lads.. isn't the UFCs March PPV meant to be in Dublin??

Nope, UFC 111 is in New Jersey, well it is according to wiki.

PisteHoff

I find it strange that you would never see in the octagon two guys fighting called micheal higginbottom and mark calloway..... They sound like dangerous men alright.
Oh and Alice in Wonderland is 3D...

PisteHoff

Dare_2_defy wrote: »

O yeah, Alice in Wonderland, how could I forget that:D:D;):p

BTW, Why are you using their real names for? and Micheal Essien??

Sorry for the confusion... I will never mention Miceal Essien again

Fozzy

Rud3Bwoy wrote: »

yep but to be fair,its not like the ppv is on the same day as mania,i am sure mania will do very well.

PPVs that happen within a week of another PPV generally take a hit. One week appears to be the limit

I wouldn't worry for WWE, Raw will easily beat the UFC's rating on January 11th and Wrestlemania shouldn't take too much of a hit

waltersobchak

This is from The Sun Online...

Pro Wrestling Torch Editor Wade Keller said: "This is an apparent attempt
by UFC to take away a portion of WWE's audience for the wrestling promotion's biggest event of the year.
"With UFC booking Georges St Pierre — one of their top stars — in a marquee PPV fight one night before WrestleMania to go along with the Monday night fight card on cable TV, it will give WWE more incentive to deliver a strong line-up of shows in the first three months of 2010."

Sounds about right, hopefully WWE will now pull up their socks and start delivering better PPVs in 2010..

Bounty Hunter

waltersobchak wrote: »

This is from The Sun Online...

Pro Wrestling Torch Editor Wade Keller said: "This is an apparent attempt
by UFC to take away a portion of WWE's audience for the wrestling promotion's biggest event of the year.
"With UFC booking Georges St Pierre — one of their top stars — in a marquee PPV fight one night before WrestleMania to go along with the Monday night fight card on cable TV, it will give WWE more incentive to deliver a strong line-up of shows in the first three months of 2010."

Sounds about right, hopefully WWE will now pull up their socks and start delivering better PPVs in 2010..

to me that sounds more likely to make the WWE improve the quality of their product than the possibility of going head to head with TNA. I think they would consider UFC a much bigger competiter for ratings and buy rates

waltersobchak

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

to me that sounds more likely to make the WWE improve the quality of their product than the possibility of going head to head with TNA. I think they would consider UFC a much bigger competiter for ratings and buy rates

absolutely, like i said earlier the WWEs not gonna get the all important 1 million buys just from the Wrestlemania name alone, they're really gonna have to provide a legitimate reason for people to fork over their $55, especially in this time of an ecomonic downturn, i wonder if it'll be a case of people seeing one or the other? and the fact that its a Saturday night might also swing some buys for UFC..

Bubs101

I think it's more likely to hurt the UFC PPV than Wrestlemania. There's only 1 Mania a year but there are plenty of UFC's and Hardy's not exactly the strongest challenger across the water. He hasn't even been on an American PPV yet and the last PPV he was on did pretty poorly for free and the rating got a bump for the Main Event fight. I love him but he's not a big deal. Canada's obviously going to buy the PPV but I can't imagine alot of people passing on Wrestlemania because there's a UFC PPV the day before, if they were going to watch WM they'll get both. If they were going to watch the UFC I'd say they'd be more tempted to get the next one.

callaway92

Bubs101 wrote: »

I think it's more likely to hurt the UFC PPV than Wrestlemania. There's only 1 Mania a year but there are plenty of UFC's and Hardy's not exactly the strongest challenger across the water. He hasn't even been on an American PPV yet and the last PPV he was on did pretty poorly for free and the rating got a bump for the Main Event fight. I love him but he's not a big deal. Canada's obviously going to buy the PPV but I can't imagine alot of people passing on Wrestlemania because there's a UFC PPV the day before, if they were going to watch WM they'll get both. If they were going to watch the UFC I'd say they'd be more tempted to get the next one.

I can guarantee you it will sell well.. People will pay to say GSP beat Hardy..Hardy will sell, he is great at pumping people up for fights..Ever see him against Davis a couple of months ago? Jesus he got me so hyped for that

Bubs101

callaway92 wrote: »

I can guarantee you it will sell well.. People will pay to say GSP beat Hardy..Hardy will sell, he is great at pumping people up for fights..Ever see him against Davis a couple of months ago? Jesus he got me so hyped for that

I love Hardy and I think he's done a great job so far, especially after he floored Markham and asked him where his punching power was then. He's great when he has no respect for his opponent and that was particularly true of Davis' plastic paddy schtick. The problem is he idolises GSP and when GSP came into the Octagon after he KO'd Swick Hardy just looked starstruck. He's not selling that fight the way he built up the others, no chance.

The only reason it will do well is because it's been a long time since we've seen GSP but even still Mania is Mania and I can't see many people not buying it because of this. They may have to put Jericho or Edge in a main event or something to appease the Cannucks but people will buy Mania regardless of what's on except maybe the Mayweather Pacman fight which is the whole reason the UFC is clashing. Nobody wants to go up against what's the last superfight in boxing except maybe the brothers

rossie1977

waltersobchak wrote: »

Sounds about right, hopefully WWE will now pull up their socks and start delivering better PPVs in 2010..

very little wrong with the quality of wwe ppvs in 2009, the ppvs themselves are not the problem, the buildup and storylines leading into the ppvs are the problem

3hn2givr7mx1sc

Dare_2_defy wrote: »

Good point, March next year is turning onto a great month. Pacquiao/Mayweather; UFC PPV and Mania 26.

Must set my priorities straight (if I have enough money):
1 - Mania 26
2 - Boxing
3 - UFC

Don't have to pay specifically for UFC in Ireland.;)

waltersobchak

rossie1977 wrote: »

very little wrong with the quality of wwe ppvs in 2009, the ppvs themselves are not the problem, the buildup and storylines leading into the ppvs are the problem

The last 3 ppvs have been FAR from stellar, and as far as im concerned they should be judged by the present, not the past so yes WWE do very much have to start to pull up their socks, with big competition from TNA/UFC/Boxing in the first 3 months leading to Mania, they'd be stupid not to...

D2D

baz2009 wrote: »

Don't have to pay specifically for UFC in Ireland.;)

If you don't have ESPN, you do.

D2D

waltersobchak wrote: »

The last 3 ppvs have been FAR from stellar, and as far as im concerned they should be judged by the present, not the past so yes WWE do very much have to start pull up their socks, with big competition from TNA/UFC/Boxing in the first 3 months leading to Mania, they'd be stupid not to...

I didn't think the last 3 PPV's weren't bad. Bragging Rights was a very good PPV, Survivor Series really showcased the young talent for the future while TLC....erm... I can't comment on it as I haven't seen it

waltersobchak

Dare_2_defy wrote: »

I didn't think the last 3 PPV's weren't bad. Bragging Rights was a very good PPV, Survivor Series really showcased the young talent for the future while TLC....erm... I can't comment on it as I haven't seen it

Survivor Series in particular was atrocious in my opinion, fair enough the Miz vs Morrison match was Sheamus's first steps to were he is now but that was about the only good thing, The best thing about Bragging Rights was the 60 min Iron Man match, and TLCs highlights were Christian/Shelton,McIntyre/Morrison and Sheamus's win but thats it, im not knocking all the PPVs this year because some have been excellent, but really the last 3 haven't been

TheCandystripes

UFC lol. todays fad like wwf in the 90's

mma is one of those things thats better to do than watch.

D2D

waltersobchak wrote: »

Survivor Series in particular was atrocious in my opinion, fair enough the Miz vs Morrison match was Sheamus's first steps to were he is now but that was about the only good thing, The best thing about Bragging Rights was the 60 min Iron Man match, and TLCs highlights were Christian/Shelton,McIntyre/Morrison and Sheamus's win but thats it, im not knocking all the PPVs this year because some have been excellent, but really the last 3 haven't been

SS was a letdown to be fair. I loved the fact that the youngsters were shined on but the event itself was poor.

Realistically, what do ye expect in ratings on Jan 4 (WWE Raw vs. TNA iMPACT!) and Jan 11 (WWE Raw vs. UFC Monday night fight night LIVE)

Mine would be
for Jan 4: Raw to get a 3.3, iMPACT to get a 1.9/2.0
for Jan 11: Raw to get a 3.1, UFC to get a 2.9

waltersobchak

Dare_2_defy wrote: »

SS was a letdown to be fair. I loved the fact that the youngsters were shined on but the event itself was poor.

Realistically, what do ye expect in ratings on Jan 4 (WWE Raw vs. TNA iMPACT!) and Jan 11 (WWE Raw vs. UFC Monday night fight night LIVE)

Mine would be
for Jan 4: Raw to get a 3.3, iMPACT to get a 1.9/2.0
for Jan 11: Raw to get a 3.1, UFC to get a 2.9

those rating seem very very likely, maybe Raw might get closer to 4 and Impact maybe get a 3, obviously if their unopposed for the first hour, The WWE audience is gonna tune in,especially if its loaded with Hogan and even some surprises.. so that will add to the overall rating, i guessing some old school WCW and WWF fans are gonna come out of the woodwork for this..

D2D

waltersobchak wrote: »

those rating seem very very likely, maybe Raw might get closer to 4 and Impact maybe get a 3, obviously if their unopposed for the first hour, The WWE audience is gonna tune in,especially if its loaded with Hogan and even some surprises.. so that will add to the overall rating, i guessing some old school WCW fans are gonna come out of the woodwork for this..

As much as I'd love it, I really can't see WWE getting a 4 rating for Raw. I can't see TNA getting a 3 rating for iMPACT! either. I forgot about the WCW fans as well so maybe around the 2.5 mark, I'd say. If TNA pull off a 3 rating, it would be masive for the company. They are taking a HUGE (caps-lock ment) risk with this while UFC are trying to take WWE's audience to their hugely growing fan-base.

waltersobchak

Dare_2_defy wrote: »

As much as I'd love it, I really can't see WWE getting a 4 rating for Raw. I can't see TNA getting a 3 rating for iMPACT! either. I forgot about the WCW fans as well so maybe around the 2.5 mark, I'd say. If TNA pull off a 3 rating, it would be masive for the company. They are taking a HUGE (caps-lock ment) risk with this while UFC are trying to take WWE's audience to their hugely growing fan-base.

I dunno i could be over exaggerating it big time, but look at what the Edge and Lita live sex angle did a few years ago, it proves that the fans are still there and they tune in when theres a reason to..

D2D

waltersobchak wrote: »

I dunno i could be over exaggerating it big time, but look at what the Edge and Lita live sex angle did a few years ago, it proves that the fans are still there and they tune in when theres a reason to..

A Raw in Febuary this year got a 4.1 rating so you're not over-exaggerating.

TheCandystripes

TNA is gonna do really well that night. They need to up the anti big time and keep those fans.

waltersobchak

TheCandystripes wrote: »

TNA is gonna do really well that night. They need to up the anti big time and keep those fans.

i totally agree.. if that first hour is entertaining, people will continue to watch, especially if TNA are unopposed for that whole hour, then they're guaranteed a slice of that WWE audience,.. and if they have some surpises too (RVD, Flair, whatever) then thats what we all want to see, surprises and twists and turns and exciting television..

waltersobchak

It looks like the competition for your PPV dollars on Wrestlemania weekend is getting even stiffer. As previously reported, UFC will have their UFC 111 PPV on Saturday, March 27, 2010 from the Prudential Center in Newark, New Jersey, the day before Wrestlemania XXVI airs on Pay-per-view. The UFC card, already headlined by Welterweight Champion Georges St. Pierre vs. Dan Hardy, is reportedly going to include a match for the Interim Heavyweight Title between undefeated number one contender Shane Carwin and former UFC Heavyweight Champion Frank Mir, according to MMAJunkie.com.(PWInsider)

D2D

waltersobchak wrote: »

It looks like the competition for your PPV dollars on Wrestlemania weekend is getting even stiffer. As previously reported, UFC will have their UFC 111 PPV on Saturday, March 27, 2010 from the Prudential Center in Newark, New Jersey, the day before Wrestlemania XXVI airs on Pay-per-view. The UFC card, already headlined by Welterweight Champion Georges St. Pierre vs. Dan Hardy, is reportedly going to include a match for the Interim Heavyweight Title between undefeated number one contender Shane Carwin and former UFC Heavyweight Champion Frank Mir, according to MMAJunkie.com.(PWInsider)

UFC are going all out to take most of Mania's viewers. Expect the WWE Hall of Fame viewing figures to be very low then.

waltersobchak

Dare_2_defy wrote: »

UFC are going all out to take most of Mania's viewers. Expect the WWE Hall of Fame viewing figures to be very low then.

absolutely, it certainly sounds like message of intent from UFC

D2D

waltersobchak wrote: »

absolutely, it certainly sounds like message of intent from UFC

Expect the HoF rating to be under a 1.0 (last years HoF was 1.79)

Just thinking about the possibility of Bret being the GM on Raw for 4/1. If that happens, I'd say iMPACT!'s ratings would take a big hit.

waltersobchak

Dare_2_defy wrote: »

Expect the HoF rating to be under a 1.0 (last years HoF was 1.79)

Just thinking about the possibility of Bret being the GM on Raw for 4/1. If that happens, I'd say iMPACT!'s ratings would take a big hit.

I think i might be in the minority here, but i reckon both shows on the 4th are gonna get stellar ratings.... BUT ONLY if stuff like this happen, and are actually properly advertised.. like, surprises are fantastic, but if WWE really do want a great rating,then this will really excite old school fans, who'll want to see HBK and Bret square off in some way.. but catch 22 to this is, if WWE attract fans, then they're possibly attracting fans to TNA also, so i wonder will this effect things??

Vince135792003

Dare_2_defy wrote: »

for Jan 11: Raw to get a 3.1, UFC to get a 2.9

Not a chance UFC will be that high. They did an overall 2.4 rating with Kimbo Slice 2 weeks ago and there's no one near that level of a tv draw on this show.


I think the rating for TNA is very hard to predict but the range for me would be a 1.0 to a 1.7.

D2D

Vince135792003 wrote: »

Not a chance UFC will be that high. They did an overall 2.4 rating with Kimbo Slice 2 weeks ago and there's no one near that level of a tv draw on this show.


I think the rating for TNA is very hard to predict but the range for me would be a 1.0 to a 1.7.

You'll never know with a bit of competition,

I'm in 2 minds with TNA's ratings. I can expect them to at least expect them to get a high 1 to a low 2 rating. Anything over that is a bonus.

Vince135792003

Dare_2_defy wrote: »

You'll never know with a bit of competition,

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As far as UFC goes, this is not the first time they have gone head to head. The average Fight Night rating is 1.7 and they'll do well to get that this time with the line up they have.

I would worry about Impact being 3 hours too. They find it hard to keep people tuned in for the 2 hour duration.

D2D

Vince135792003 wrote: »

As far as UFC goes, this is not the first time they have gone head to head. The average Fight Night rating is 1.7 and they'll do well to get that this time with the line up they have.

I would worry about Impact being 3 hours too. They find it hard to keep people tuned in for the 2 hour duration.

Do they?? I didn't know that. I really exaggerated my prediction then. Thanks:):)

I'd say a load of people will tune in for the 1st hour of TNA to see what it's like. For the rest of the show, neither switch over to Raw or continue watching iMPACT!

Vince135792003

Dare_2_defy wrote: »

Do they?? I didn't know that. I really exaggerated my prediction then. Thanks:):)

I'd say a load of people will tune in for the 1st hour of TNA to see what it's like. For the rest of the show, neither switch over to Raw or continue watching iMPACT!

This week TNA's quarter ratings:


1.06
1.03
1.05
1.07
1.16
.92
.93
.88

D2D

Vince135792003 wrote: »

This week TNA's quarter ratings:


1.06
1.03
1.05
1.07
1.16
.92
.93
.88

Good grief, the end of the show really bombed. 1.1 is normal for iMPACT!

Again, my prediction for iMPACT! is slightly optimistic to say the least

flahavaj

Vince135792003 wrote: »

This week TNA's quarter ratings:


1.06
1.03
1.05
1.07
1.16
.92
.93
.88

Which begs the question, as ws asked on Bryan's thread, what the f*ck segment was airing in the time the rating dropped from 1.2 to 0.9?:eek: