Blue spirals Russia & Norway

squod · 10-12-2009 12:46am #1

Anyone know what would have caused the recent spirals visable over Russia and again over Norway recently. Bit of an internet sensation at the minute huh?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk.nyud.net/news/worldnews/article-1234430/Mystery-spiral-blue-light-display-hovers-Norway.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN_y5r7vHio

Riamfada · 10-12-2009 2:11am

The arrival of the T-1000 I would say

Ken_Is_Here · 10-12-2009 1:05pm

SPiral lights over Norway?

Did someone not mention that President Obama would announce First contact when he gets his Peace Prize?

Isn't that taking place today?

isn't that in Norway??????:eek:

Canard · 10-12-2009 1:45pm

Ken_Is_Here wrote: »

SPiral lights over Norway?

Did someone not mention that President Obama would announce First contact when he gets his Peace Prize?

Isn't that taking place today?

isn't that in Norway??????:eek:

Oh god

AircraftTechie · 10-12-2009 1:45pm

Ken_Is_Here wrote: »

Did someone not mention that President Obama would announce First contact when he gets his Peace Prize?

Isn't that taking place today?

isn't that in Norway??????:eek:

No, its the United Nations Climate Change Conference Copenhagen 2009, Thats in Denmark.

Also OP, its been said it was a rocket that was launched but lost a stabaliser fin, it apparently was launched from Russia.

10-12-2009 1:53pm

I am looking forward to hearing what it is.

Ken_Is_Here · 10-12-2009 2:42pm

AircraftTechie wrote: »

No, its the United Nations Climate Change Conference Copenhagen 2009, Thats in Denmark.

Also OP, its been said it was a rocket that was launched but lost a stabaliser fin, it apparently was launched from Russia.

Oh...ok then.

I'll just sit back down and grab an atlas so...:o

6th · 10-12-2009 4:03pm

As usual Paranormal Magazine are quick off the mark with a very good article: http://www.paranormalmagazine.co.uk/2009/12/10/did-russian-rocket-test-cause-mystery-spiral/

jonbravo · 10-12-2009 5:10pm

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18262-strange-norway-spiral-likely-an-outofcontrol-missile.html
An out of control missile.

squod · 10-12-2009 8:15pm

Yeah, I've heard the missile story alright. Test firing missiles at night doesn't make a lick of sense. Surely you'd want to see those multi-million dollar yokes doing their' job in the clear light of day. Also it was seen by thousands, Russians say their missile was launched before dawn.

Now that I think of it, if a balistic missile went out of control somebody would have pressed the self destruct button. Not left it spiral uncontrolled over another country for a few minutes.

lynski · 10-12-2009 9:15pm

if it was a missile they could repeat it no?

AircraftTechie · 10-12-2009 10:10pm

squod wrote: »

Test firing missiles at night doesn't make a lick of sense.

Why not? Back during the cold war days nearly everything covert was performed at night even the famous F117 "Stealth" only flew froom Groom lake at night with all lights off as soon as she left the tarmac. Infact it was so secretive that the pilots were instructed to not even talk to their loved ones ( wives etc ) about what they were doing and for how long they would be away from them.

squod wrote: »

Surely you'd want to see those multi-million dollar yokes doing their' job in the clear light of day. Also it was seen by thousands, Russians say their missile was launched before dawn.
Now that I think of it, if a balistic missile went out of control somebody would have pressed the self destruct button.

Why do that when Radar can track and give immediate feedback as can the Missile's onboard systems ( guidance/trajectory/altitude etc ) Not every missile has a auto destruct button ya know it's not all Hollywood.:P And of course it would be seen by 1,000's as she was at altitude.

squod · 10-12-2009 10:44pm

AircraftTechie wrote: »

Why not? Back during the cold war days nearly everything covert was performed at night even the famous F117 "Stealth" only flew froom Groom lake at night with all lights off as soon as she left the tarmac. Infact it was so secretive that the pilots were instructed to not even talk to their loved ones ( wives etc ) about what they were doing and for how long they would be away from them.

Why do that when Radar can track and give immediate feedback as can the Missile's onboard systems ( guidance/trajectory/altitude etc ) Not every missile has a auto destruct button ya know it's not all Hollywood.:P And of course it would be seen by 1,000's as she was at altitude.

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The cold war is over and if you wanna see one of these missiles then you could just buy one. As for radar or laser, well think back to the challenger disaster where most of the initial investigation centred around vcr recordings. You simply can't beat looking at stuff like this.
Nah, test firing missles at night doesn't make sense.

I know very little about missiles, I am wondering how much fuel was available to be shed to make a patten that big, over that amount of time, given the missile was already quite high in terms of altitude and would have burnt off some fuel to get to that height.

steamjetjoe · 12-12-2009 12:09pm

Something just doesnt add up about this spiral. If it was a missile that failed, went out of control ? how does it make such a perfect spiral. Surely even a slight wind would distort the smoke

ThrAx · 13-12-2009 9:15am

Could be project Blue Beam.

Urizen · 13-12-2009 6:34pm

ThrAx wrote: »

Could be project Blue Beam.

Ha, I'd never heard of that till now. If it was that, there'd be more out by now. Still, class.

ThrAx · 13-12-2009 8:43pm

Well bluebeam could explain it. There is a HAARP facility near by. They could be using that for project blue beam. It definitely wasnt a missile because these have been seen in New Zealand and over a city in Russia also and they werent flying missiles over cities now were they! (If you look about a bit online you'll fina that even military and sciencey types reckon it was not a missile.

AircraftTechie · 14-12-2009 12:43am

ThrAx wrote: »

It definitely wasnt a missile because these have been seen in New Zealand and over a city in Russia also and they werent flying missiles over cities now were they!

Look familiar?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnIrx2MT85s&feature=player_embedded

Missiles fly anywhere they are directed to go, if its flight path is going to take it at Altitude over any area than so be it, thats akin to saying dont let the ISS pass over Ireland, it's just not going to happen. Besides the Nations that it flew over didnt seem too bothered about it as no Aircraft were scrambled to go up to it.

AircraftTechie · 14-12-2009 12:54am

squod wrote: »

Im Sorry but what exactly are you trying to say to me about a waterborne missile?

squod wrote: »

The cold war is over and if you wanna see one of these missiles then you could just buy one.

I dont have have the money for one, heck why would i buy a decomissioned Missile?;)

squod wrote: »

As for radar or laser, well think back to the challenger disaster where most of the initial investigation centred around vcr recordings.

Your point? They still needed precise info from the likes of on board systems.

squod wrote: »

You simply can't beat looking at stuff like this.

I totally agree it is amazing to see.

squod wrote: »

Nah, test firing missles at night doesn't make sense.

It pretty much does it's all about Covert Operations, its much easier to get away with things at night time then in plain sight in the day, but as we can see in this case it didnt go to plan, its the essence of any Military Operation to do it at night or very early morning, Shock And Awe was testimoney to that infact both the 1st and 2nd Gulf war showed this with bombs being dropped under cover of night, we all saw those Iraqi guns firing and they hit nothing.

squod · 14-12-2009 2:33am

AircraftTechie wrote: »

Im Sorry but what exactly are you trying to say to me about a waterborne missile?
I dont have have the money for one, heck why would i buy a decomissioned Missile?;)

All I'm say is that as far as a cover story goes, it's pants. Why test a missile at night when the world already knows what it looks like? Do N.Korea do it ? No. Because it makes no sense to do so.

As for the spiral video simulations there's another hundred things it could be for all I know. Here it is again, a day later in Russia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IFLH8GzQh4

ThrAx · 14-12-2009 5:55am

No. Russia aren't sending missiles over New Zealand. Thats a load of crap. There are places they can and will test them but not over NZ.

AircraftTechie · 14-12-2009 11:08pm

ThrAx wrote: »

No. Russia aren't sending missiles over New Zealand. Thats a load of crap. There are places they can and will test them but not over NZ.

Im not going to argue about it but only months ago they were going into/probing UK Airspace with their bombers, they can and will do anything they want.

ThrAx · 15-12-2009 3:54am

Aircraft techie have a look at this. This is just what i was thinking. HAARP (or similar).

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread526725/pg1

ThrAx · 15-12-2009 5:13am

Another thread well researched IMO suggesting that it was the EISCAT atmosphere heating facility in Norway that created the spiral and not a Bulava missile (which was supposed to be heading towards Kamchatka which is east of the launch site, Norway being west).

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread526637/pg1&flagit=526637

As for reports from various places like China and NZ perhaps they have places similar to HAARP and EISCAT facilities located nearby where these phenomena occured. I'm sure many countries are involved in high altitude atmospheric experiments such as HAARP.

Blue spirals Russia & Norway

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