Could Be The Death Of Some Future Classics.

Saab Ed

In the Indo this morning....

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/budget/news/budget-sweeteners-1968093.html

Alot of good cars are gonna get scraped out of this, not good IMO.

unkel

Scrappage scheme is a complete waste of money. It will only pre load sales (with a backlash next year) and subsidise people who can afford to buy a brand new car anyway. And to add insult to injury, all the money is going to foreign car makers as there aren't any in this country

Do they not learn from the expensive mistake made in the US? :rolleyes:

colm_mcm

Cars are a lot more plentiful and rustproof than they used to be. there will be no shortage of classics in the future.
I don't think we'll be in the situation where 1.4 focus's or 1.0 Yaris's will be future classics regardless of the condition.

mike65

There will be no future classics (modern cars are sh1te). Then again I suppose lusting after a Mk1 Escort 1600 would have seemed unlikely in 1969.

MercMad

mike65 wrote: »

There will be no future classics (modern cars are sh1te). Then again I suppose lusting after a Mk1 Escort 1600 would have seemed unlikely in 1969.

.........yeah but how many 1980, 1990 or '99 Escorts do you see about nowdays, and would anyone want one even if they were around ??

New cars may be better protected against rust but they become unwanted far quicker.

Why dont the Greens realise tha amount of pollution that actually making a new car causes, rather than how little fuel it will burn in its 10-15 year lifesapn.

IMO the largest problem is that there are too many new cars made worldwide per year. If they were serious they would allow that to stop, intead of repeatedley funding it all.

mike65

This clearly is not a "green" initiative, its a supposedly ecomonic one which will boost imports and so skew the trade balance, at a time of recession. That said at least they are encouraging more fuel efficent purchases for those who can take advantage of the offer (which will not be many I'll bet).

RobAMerc

I think the numbers in this will be so pathetic it has little influence. How many people who haven't till now traded their +10 yr old car are going to do it in the middle of the worst recession in living memory?

Few if any I predict.

What is scary is that it shows the SIMI has some clout which it refused to use until it's own profits were jeopardised.

MercMad

All true, I mean in the last 6-8 months the discounts on cars, new & used, was pretty good and if nobody bought then they wont buy now.

Pdfile

just stand/park at the gate of the local scrappers and over them twice what the scrapper will give them...


its Really that simple, but finding pre wreaked cars is the difficult part.

MercMad

Pdfile wrote: »

just stand/park at the gate of the local scrappers and over them twice what the scrapper will give them...


its Really that simple, but finding pre wreaked cars is the difficult part.

.....except the €1500 VRT deduction will be based upon a certificate of destruction prior to registration of the new car. Therefore €1500 would be your absolute minimum.

Pdfile

MercMad wrote: »

.....except the €1500 VRT deduction will be based upon a certificate of destruction prior to registration of the new car. Therefore €1500 would be your absolute minimum.

who the f*** is going to buy a new car though, i know times are tight and inevitbly people like eddie hobs who hid all his money will buy a new merc or something.... chances are his 09 will not be crsuhed for a 1500 reduction.


as for cheaper cars, chances are its a deawoo lanos being traded against a ****ty new nissan/renault and even the crusher wont touch it ! :pac:

carmad

mike65 wrote: »

There will be no future classics (modern cars are sh1te). Then again I suppose lusting after a Mk1 Escort 1600 would have seemed unlikely in 1969.

Theirs a lot of crap cars around but on the other hand, cars like
saab 900 & 9000, New VW Scirocco, golf gti, some will be.

It seems stupid getting rid of good cars, where a lot of new cars don't
age well.

colm_mcm

How many those cars listed are worth less than €1500 now and are owned by people that would actually buy a new car.

Anyone who has kept a classic Saab 900 on the road isn't gonna scrap it and buy a Corsa.

Saab Ed

colm_mcm wrote: »

Anyone who has kept a classic Saab 900 on the road isn't gonna scrap it and buy a Corsa.

Here Here

ronaneire

IMO the one biggest factor in buying a new car, regardless if trading in your old one or using it against a scrapage scheme.
You need MONEY... How many lenders are going to start giving out loans? Will the unfortunate people who lost their jobs start buying?
Hopefully the only good thing that may come out of it is the motor trade might get a kick start that it badly needs.

Max Headroom

As above..money is needed to up-grade your car ..and we all know many cars on the road are funded by childrens allowance..;)

macplaxton

I posted details of the scheme over in Motors. POST IS HERE

B11gt00e

There isn't a scheme in the world that would make me buy a brand new car.

I believe that the restrictions on the age of cars used as taxis will save a good number of future classics from being run into the ground, thus ensuring a better supply for those that just want to drive them for private purposes.

mumblin deaf ro

When the UK scrappage scheme came in I was concerned that the £2K would become the floor price for classics as people were guaranteed that in a scrappage deal. But it turned out that people who drove classics didn't go for the scrappage as there's just too much of a difference in needs between a classic car driver and someone who wants a new korean pensioner-mobile.

In my view, the most environmentally-friendly thing you could do for motoring is have more long-life cars to cut down on manufacturing resources and to ensure reuse of functioning spare parts. My Saab is 22 years old - are we still going to have 2010 Smart cars around in 2032?

Pdfile

Max Headroom wrote: »

As above..money is needed to up-grade your car ..and we all know many cars on the road are funded by childrens allowance..;)

no, it puts a roof over your head... ( or mine anyways :rolleyes: )

TigerTim

I have a 7 year old Skoda & the missus has a 10 year old Scenic. There isn't a hope in hell with a few kids & one wage that we could even consider/afford buying a new car even if they allowed 5K scrappage. I've always set a budget of 5K ,except once, to buy a car (either in old pounds or Euro) & have always got a good 'un. The only bad car I've bought in almost 30 years of driving was a Peugeot 607 where I lost the plot & pushed the budget out to 11K. Man was it trouble. Lucky to sell it.

Cheap cars all the way!!.

T,