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what changes should tna make?

  • 08-12-2009 3:40pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 553 ✭✭✭


    for me
    sign ken anderson anderrrrsssonnnnn and make him the face of tna
    sign rvd and kendrick and london
    get abyss back heel. when i start watching tna i actually was so convinced he was demented? now hes a big baby. in time they need to bring back james mitchell and have him contol abyss. make him a sadistic mother****er.
    release sharkboy
    bring back petey williams
    bookers_lance storm heyman scott damore raven
    4 sided ring
    improve production


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,296 ✭✭✭✭gimmick


    Candystripes, can you please start using capital letters and punctuation in your posts? It is very difficult at times to make sense of them.

    Thanks.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,955 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    for me
    sign ken anderson anderrrrsssonnnnn and make him the face of tna
    sign rvd and kendrick and london
    get abyss back heel. when i start watching tna i actually was so convinced he was demented? now hes a big baby. in time they need to bring back james mitchell and have him contol abyss. make him a sadistic mother****er.
    release sharkboy
    bring back petey williams
    bookers_lance storm heyman scott damore raven
    4 sided ring
    improve production

    who would you cut as a matter of interest cos with all those signings they would have a massive roster, and as is there is already too much crammed into episodes of Impact without trying to shoe horn in extras. If Mr Anderson could stay healthy and signing then yeah i could see pushing him but imo their current champ is a much better "face of TNA" and has the added bonus of not being judged as a WWE reject.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 553 ✭✭✭TheCandystripes


    gimmick wrote: »
    Candystripes, can you please start using capital letters and punctuation in your posts? It is very difficult at times to make sense of them.

    Thanks.

    i would but im using my ps3 at the moment


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭Machismo Fan


    One simple thing: Fire Vince Russo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 553 ✭✭✭TheCandystripes


    who would you cut as a matter of interest cos with all those signings they would have a massive roster, and as is there is already too much crammed into episodes of Impact without trying to shoe horn in extras. If Mr Anderson could stay healthy and signing then yeah i could see pushing him but imo their current champ is a much better "face of TNA" and has the added bonus of not being judged as a WWE reject.

    Well they should get a second show imo. They also need to stop fooling themselves with KO division. On 4th January having a KO match will have people turn over to RAW. Womens wrestling(in usa anyway) doesn't draw. I like Victoria and Awesome Kong may buck the trend but generally its a bathroom break. The KO's should act as valets and be more involved in general storylines.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,478 ✭✭✭Bubs101


    Well they should get a second show imo. They also need to stop fooling themselves with KO division. On 4th January having a KO match will have people turn over to RAW. Womens wrestling(in usa anyway) doesn't draw. I like Victoria and Awesome Kong may buck the trend but generally its a bathroom break. The KO's should act as valets and be more involved in general storylines.

    It's their biggest ratings draw


    TNA signed Hulkster, he'll silence Russo and bring in RVD and Flair. Then they should wait


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 553 ✭✭✭TheCandystripes


    Bubs101 wrote: »
    It's their biggest ratings draw


    TNA signed Hulkster, he'll silence Russo and bring in RVD and Flair. Then they should wait

    Hulk said he has big suprises for TNA fans on January 4th, what you think they will be?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,175 ✭✭✭Paulegend


    who would you cut as a matter of interest cos with all those signings ty would have a massive roster, and as is there is already too much crammed into episodes of heImpact without trying to shoe horn in extras. If Mr Anderson could stay healthy and signing then yeah i could see pushing him but imo their current champ is a much better "face of TNA" and has the added bonus of not being judged as a WWE reject.


    well they are talking about having the second show arent they???

    foley controling 1 and hulk controling the other


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 110 ✭✭digital pimp


    1. keep the ring, its brilliant.
    2. stay with one 2 hour show, but maybe start a support show. a one hour show with lower card wrestlers.
    3. push younger guys, not sting and hogan.
    4. don't hire flair.
    5. don't hire RVD and Ken Anderson and have them run rampant over TNA guys.
    6. simplify storylines. the MEM vs. Frontline story turned into a mess.
    7. No huge stables. MEM started with 5 guys then got bigger. groups should be 3-4 people max. its just easier to follow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭Machismo Fan


    Well they should get a second show imo. They also need to stop fooling themselves with KO division. On 4th January having a KO match will have people turn over to RAW. Womens wrestling(in usa anyway) doesn't draw. I like Victoria and Awesome Kong may buck the trend but generally its a bathroom break. The KO's should act as valets and be more involved in general storylines.

    Awesome Kong is one of the most entertaining things in TNA (and wrestling in general for that matter). If somebody switched over during an Awesome Kong/Hamada match I'd imagine their attention would be held.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 758 ✭✭✭davrho


    Womens wrestling(in usa anyway) doesn't draw.... but generally its a bathroom break.

    To do what?:eek:

    Plenty of money to be made with scantily clad woman and the 18-35 year old demograph. Sex sells.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 553 ✭✭✭TheCandystripes


    davrho wrote: »
    To do what?:eek:

    Plenty of money to be made with scantily clad woman and the 18-35 year old demograph. Sex sells.

    dont have them wrestle make them sluts


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 758 ✭✭✭davrho


    dont have them wrestle make them sluts

    If the customer wanted sluts he/she would spend their money on porn. You want to keep the customer so you sell them female wrestlers.

    You lose the female custom with your "sluts" plan.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    for me
    sign ken anderson anderrrrsssonnnnn and make him the face of tna

    Not much good having a guy whos the face of the company whos injured more than Owen Hargreaves.
    sign rvd and kendrick and london
    LOL Potheads anonymous. Never drew dime between them.
    get abyss back heel. when i start watching tna i actually was so convinced he was demented? now hes a big baby. in time they need to bring back james mitchell and have him contol abyss. make him a sadistic mother****er.
    Heel or face he's staler than his bag of thumbtacks.
    release sharkboy
    Meh
    bring back petey williams
    Horrendous wrestler.
    bookers_lance storm heyman scott damore raven
    Dopey, Sleazy, Roundy and Lazy. 'Tis like the seven dwarves only less realistic.:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 553 ✭✭✭TheCandystripes


    flahavaj wrote: »
    Not much good having a guy whos the face of the company whos injured more than Owen Hargreaves.

    LOL Potheads anonymous. Never drew dime between them.
    Heel or face he's staler than his bag of thumbtacks.

    Meh
    Horrendous wrestler.
    Dopey, Sleazy, Roundy and Lazy. 'Tis like the seven dwarves only less realistic.:pac:

    why you hate tna so much?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    why you hate tna so much?

    I don't.

    Your suggestions are just sh*te.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,085 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    1. Fire Russo.
    2. Let Hogan and Bischoff book it (at least it'll be sensible)
    3. Get rid of the six sided ring.
    4. Stop overusing gimmick matches or using overly complicated ones.
    5. Use Hogan sparingly (very sparingly as a wrestler)
    6. Do not move to Monday nights.
    7. Do not start a second show.
    8. Stop trying to feature just about everyone every week.
    9. Fire Foley (or move him to a commentary/manager role)
    10. Stop letting Nash wrestle.
    11. Fire Booker T.
    12. And Sharmell!
    13. Cut the vast majority of talent they have no proper plans for.
    14. Make Angle take time off.
    15. Implement a drug testing policy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭JohnMc1


    One simple thing: Fire Vince Russo.

    100% agreed. Plus stop hiring every WWE cast off that Vince fires [excuse me "future endeavors"] Focus on their own stars not 40-50 year old hasbeens like Nash [who was worthless even in his prime] and Hogan [and possible Flair] TNA is seriously in danger of becoming WCW 2.0. And we all know how that ended.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    Theres a massive possibility TNA fans will be crying out for Russo after a few months of Hogan's booking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,391 ✭✭✭D2D


    1. Fire Russo.
    2. Let Hogan and Bischoff book it (at least it'll be sensible)
    3. Get rid of the six sided ring.
    4. Stop overusing gimmick matches or using overly complicated ones.
    5. Use Hogan sparingly (very sparingly as a wrestler)
    6. Do not move to Monday nights.
    7. Do not start a second show.
    8. Stop trying to feature just about everyone every week.
    9. Fire Foley (or move him to a commentary/manager role)
    10. Stop letting Nash wrestle.
    11. Fire Booker T.
    12. And Sharmell!
    13. Cut the vast majority of talent they have no proper plans for.
    14. Make Angle take time off.
    15. Implement a drug testing policy.

    I agree with some of the things on this list.

    - I think they shouldn't move to Monday nights just cause Hogan has arrived. It's very risky and I feel it mightn't work out the way Hogan wants it.

    - The 6-sided ring is very awkward looking yet it's probably the most noticible thing in TNA.

    - Overkill on gimmick matches is a major problem in TNA.

    - I agree with Flahavaj in not having Mr Anderson as champ. The man has charisma, yes, but he's one of the most injury prone wrestlers out there.

    - They have a drug-testing policy in TNA, http://www.wrestleview.com/news2009/1259802317.php

    They don't punish the ones who tested positive though


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭JohnMc1


    flahavaj wrote: »
    Theres a massive possibility TNA fans will be crying out for Russo after a few months of Hogan's booking.

    Even if Hogan is a terrible booker [ie. pushes him and his friends down our throats and wins the TNA title in a squash match] I really don't think fans would be clamoring for Russo's return [How does this guy keep ****ing up and somehow promotions still beg for his services?]


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    JohnMc1 wrote: »
    Even if Hogan is a terrible booker [ie. pushes him and his friends down our throats and wins the TNA title in a squash match] I really don't think fans would be clamoring for Russo's return [How does this guy keep ****ing up and somehow promotions still beg for his services?]

    Just you wait. The grass is always greener.;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭Machismo Fan


    flahavaj wrote: »
    Theres a massive possibility TNA fans will be crying out for Russo after a few months of Hogan's booking.

    Can't we all just have the happy medium - neither.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    Can't we all just have the happy medium - neither.

    Or the dream-team. Both.:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭JohnMc1


    flahavaj wrote: »
    Just you wait. The grass is always greener.;)

    Possible. If there is anybody are begging to see return then it will be Jarrett. Up until his "personal sabatical" he has kept Russo on a tight leash for the most part.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭geeky


    - Ditch (or at least control) Vince Russo and his lunatic booking. (happy to see this taking shape).
    - Hold off on Ken Anderson for a bit, see how he's healed up - and how his attitude is - while he works the indies. Indeed, stop signing anyone who's released by the WWE as a matter of course, and resist the temptation to bring back stars from the 80s and early 90s - Jim Neidhart on Impact was a sorry site.
    - Use Hogan more as an authority figure than a wrestler.
    - Start using the Motor City Machine Guns a little more.
    - Dear god, increase the wrestling-to-lame-promo ratio (this ties in to point one).
    - Get Foley off a wrestling schedule, and put him on comentary/as a manager and on the creative team. He can't really move like he used to, and sensibly doesn't take the insane bumps that made his matches worth wathing, but is still good on the mike when he has something half-decent to work with and has an excellent head for the business.
    - Work out a long-term plan for the young(er) guys who should be the future of the company when the veterans retire. Where do they want Samoa Joe to be this time next year? Do they even know? With too many guys, it seems like they're bouncing around from idea to idea, and not really getting anywhere. I'd nominate the following for a sit-down meeting to make a plan for: Joe, Matt Morgan, Daniels, Hernandez (with the Mexican connection, he could be huge), Pope and AJ Styles to a lesser extent (I think they've a better idea what the plans are for him).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,510 ✭✭✭Tricity Bendix


    Ken Anderson cannot wrestle safely. He's proved it time and time again. He is a liability in the ring.

    First change I'd make wold be to fire Lacey Von Erich.
    Then I'd give Lethal a new gimmick.
    Foley's in-ring career is over. I'd keep him as commish.
    Ditto with Nash. I'd stick him with someone younger who needs a mouthpiece.
    Fire Big Rob.
    Place a moratorium on Abyss/Dr.Stevie matches.
    Speaking of Abyss, his face act is annoying, but I wouldn't just reverse time and stick him with his old manager. He needs a new direction.

    These are all minor changes, cus I actually like watching TNA.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 142 ✭✭Lone Kimono


    Stop having short crappy matches on Impact.

    Keep Nash and Foley out of the ring but keep them as managers or as authority figures.

    They have the makings of a strong tag team division, push the Motor City Machine Guns, maybe bring in London and Kendrick (imagine the matches between both teams) and along with the other tag teams you have a division that could blow WWEs tag team division out of the water.

    Stop using so many gimmick matches on Impact.

    If Ken Anderson could stay fit and has the right attitude he would be a good addition but do not push him to the top straight away, keep him just below the main event level at least for the time being.

    Go back to the four sided ring.

    That I feel would be a good start.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,492 ✭✭✭EdK


    What's everyones problem with the six sided ring it makes no difference to the wrestling and its something different

    Also I dont call for the head of Vince Russo because he's not the one with the final say as what gets to tv you dont have to use his ideas and Dixie should be vetting them along with somebody who knows wrestling

    Don't hire ANYONE else unless its a short term deal for a particular program, They have a talented and diverse roster that they need to best use before they add to it, WCW had the best wrestlers in the world but only a handful were ever used well, On Kennedy he never accomplished anything in wrestling so I dont think he would draw many if any new fans, He's a liability and somebody you would have to put alot of time and effort into to get your money's worth

    Kevin Nash and Mick Foley are done in the ring but could still be big assets to TNA if they find a good way to use them

    Not sure about begging Sting to stay every year either, he was a great wrestler and is still decent not on Foley/Nash levels of bad but at this stage I don't think he adds a whole lot

    I know they keep guys like Sting,Foley and Nash around for name value but there are only so many non wrestling roles you can have because these guys should not be wrestling

    The X-Division is what brought TNA to the dance a complete re-evaluation and refocus on those wrestlers and what they can do is very much necessary

    Less gimmick matches particularly on tv, Longer tv matches especially the main events should be atleast 12-15 minutes

    Advertising, by all accounts their advertising is attrocious, yes they advertise online and on Spike tv but thats to people who already know them, They need to put money into a large advertising campaign spearheaded by Hogan, Although it appears they may have started that as I hear there is a TNA billboard going up in Times square today

    For the things they do wrong TNA do alot right, Great house shows in which the level of interaction with fans is first rate, Their expansion rate worldwide is healthy for such a young company, And they do sign alot of good talent its just a case of using them more effectively

    Thats all for now :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 247 ✭✭Memnoch99


    flahavaj wrote: »
    Not much good having a guy whos the face of the company whos injured more than Owen Hargreaves.

    Even as a United fan thats funny.

    I think:
    -TNA should stop trying to compete with WWE and focus on their own product.
    -Avoid giving Hogan control over anything creative. When has he ever booked anything himself to begin with?
    -Protect Kurt Angle-I want him back in WWE someday and that will never happen if he is constantly wrestling on every show for TNA.Give him a break every now and then.
    -Stop the gimmick match overload-too many gimmick matches waters the concept down. Stop putting things like Ultimate X on tv.
    -Slow down the pace of Impact. Seriously its like watching 4 hours of a show crammed in to 2. Pace it better as well. Too often theres an in-ring segment and it cuts straight to the back for someones reaction.
    -Stop all the multi-man matches-fatal 4 ways and triple threats left right and center gets a bit much after a while. Likewise not every single wrestler needs to be on every ppv.
    -They should probably concentrate on developing their own stars instead of attempting to sign every big name thats available. Booker T and Lashley worked out very well didnt they?
    -Plan out story lines in advance instead of making them up as they go along.
    -Make Joe a destroyer again.
    -Think logically about why a wrestler would do something-one of the dumbest things Ive ever seen in wrestling is Hernadez cashing in his Feast or Fired briefcase in a 4 way match (!!) where he had a 1 in 5 chance of winning. Stupid booking.
    -Get Angelina back!!!!!!!!!!


    That being said TNA do have some good things going for them-the whole Hogan interest factor, and anything Kurt Angle related (as far as Im concerned.) They are capable of putting on a good show but too often try to do too much.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭JP Liz


    geeky wrote: »
    Start using the Motor City Machine Guns a little more.

    a lot lot more


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 110 ✭✭digital pimp


    I love the six sided ring myself, it just makes more sense when I think about it.

    totally agree with 3 and 4 way matches, and also the length of matches
    TV matches should be 10-15 minutes
    PPV matches 20-30 minutes.
    gimmick mates on PPV only. one per PPV.
    AND each show should have 51% wrestling - 49% promos, skits, entrances etc
    that's what were watching it for after all.

    guys like Nash, Foley and Big Poppa Pump are assets, tag them with young guys and you could build the best tag team league of all time
    each of these have up to 30 years experience, that's priceless.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭michael.etc...


    They also need to stop fooling themselves with KO division. On 4th January having a KO match will have people turn over to RAW. Womens wrestling(in usa anyway) doesn't draw. I like Victoria and Awesome Kong may buck the trend but generally its a bathroom break. The KO's should act as valets and be more involved in general storylines.

    I was going to take this thread seriously until i read this post. Utter nonsense.

    The bottom line is, they need to start producing tv that conducive in appealing to fans to tune in repeatedly, and actually buy the PPVs. They need to stop giving away gimmicks and stips on free television without notice, and create a sense of importance when it comes to storylines and feuds. Their logic and outlook is often really out of touch, and merely simplifying things would help immeasurably. They could do with properly marketing the x-division to a wider audience and genuinely providing the alternative we know they could offer.


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